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Poetry out of songs to be taken literally? All three passages are poetry taken out of songs.

Far as I know, evos are the ONLY ones demanding that. Real Christians know better.

You need to get out of the dark ages when the Catholic church about at least ex-communicated Galileo for that.

How's that pope being a champion of science thing working out for you now?

Sorry if you find my observation -that supposing that physical forces account for physical phenomena (science) is useful; while ascribing supernatural causation to account for physical phenomena (creationism) is useless - insulting.

Sounds like your decision that there is no supernatural causation for natural events is based on a philosophical presupposition. If it's not, could kindly direct us to where the scientific research demonstrates no supernatural causation for the universe or observed natural events.

Truth is only found in God, who IS truth, and hence in Scripture which is the Holy Spirit, God breathed revelation to us about things which we would have no other way of finding out about.

Your problems with the interpretation are your problems, they don't present a problem for creationists who stand in awe at God's marvelous, intricate handiwork.

Psst, I think God was robed, not robbed. You might want to consider something besides a creationist hate site for accuracy in quoting Scripture. Someone who is literate, for example. I would question the ability of anyone who cannot spell to competently practice science.

Oh, so our geocentric Freepers are not real Christians? I never see you tell them that!

They seem to think the same of anyone who rejects geocentrism! The claim is that all Bible believing Christians are geocentrists!

So how far down the rabbit hole of absurd literalism do you want to go? Does the Earth have four corners? Am I literally made from dust? Do I reject God via my knowledge that cellular processes involving DNA were also involved?

Science is of use in explaining and predicting reality. One is free to suppose supernatural causation - but to do so isn't science - and it leads nowhere. That is my point.

One cannot predict miraculous intervention - or use it to explain subsequent mundane events caused by natural forces; it is useless.

The argument that to reject creationism makes one not a Christian and destined for hellfire is rather idiotic - but really - what else do Creationists have - it is their #1 fallback position!

The denial of supernatural causation of creation, no matter when or how it occurred, doesn’t make logical sense.

The universe is finite, and has a beginning, before which was... what?

So, going from nothing to something, there had to be an “extra” natural, ie, supernatural event with an supernatural Cause.

It just seems silly to be offended that that supernatural event happened more recently than the secular world says it happened. Regardless of whether it was several billion years ago or several thousand years ago, there was a supernatural creation event, followed by nature acting according to the physical laws set up at that event.

Thanks for the ping. I have not been really following this, but will say that it is not that there is no scientific truth outside Scripture (such as about electrons, etc.), but that it provides the Truth we need for salvation and growth toward perfection, including the body of Christ in which the members edify each other, and it also materially provides/sanctions reasoning and science itself, but all must be tested by and not contradict Scripture.

As for Galileo, you likely will find some objections on that, and see comments here: http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2011/09/interpreting-actions-of-pope-even-popes.html

And there are still significant RCs defending geocentrism, such as RCA Robert Sungenis (http://galileowaswrong.blogspot.com/).

And this which was previously listed on http://www.catholicintl.com/ /index.html: Galileo was wrong, the church was right: theologians attempting to defend the Church by arguing that the condemnation of Galileo did not engage the Church’s authority or impose an obligation in conscience on the faithful to hold geocentrism as true have of course laid themselves open to the argument of liberal Catholics or would-be Catholics that they are therefore free to reject other decrees of the Holy See on any topic from scriptural interpretation to the immorality of contraception.” — The Theological Status of Heliocentrism,http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Daly.pdf;

Sungenis also criticizes the Catechism for denying the literal understanding of Genesis, claiming it is not the historical position of the church: http://www.catholicintl.com/index.php/catholic/theology/786-the-us-catechism-more-problems-and-erroneous-concepts

There is no truth in science, only theories which have the potential to be disproved with the latest new scientific advancement. Today's scientific truth is tomorrow's theory relegated to the dustbin of history with no acknowledgement that it was wrong.
Truth is only found in God, who IS truth, and hence in Scripture which is the Holy Spirit, God breathed revelation to us about things which we would have no other way of finding out about.

Precisely so, dear sister in Christ, thank for sharing your insights!