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What Obama really wants
Tea Party Nation. ^ | 12/7/12 | Judson Phillips

Posted on 12/07/2012 5:36:10 AM PST by Thad Lost

When you go up against another group, whether in business or war, you need to know what the other group’s objectives are.

What do they really want?

In criminal law, this is called motive. If you understand the goal or the motive, then everything else will make sense.

What is Barack Obama’s ultimate goal in the fiscal cliff crisis?

Barack Obama has laid out several demands. He wants no spending cuts. He wants massive tax increases on the wealthy, which in liberal speak is anyone with a job.

But there is one goal he has that trumps them all.

What is it he really wants?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ceiling; debt; obama; unlimited
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1 posted on 12/07/2012 5:36:19 AM PST by Thad Lost
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2 posted on 12/07/2012 5:41:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Thad Lost

................just call im “the closer”.....................


3 posted on 12/07/2012 5:50:20 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Thad Lost

IMHO the Dems need to control the House in 2014 to complete control of gov except the SCOTUS. MSM already convince most Americans that the GOP will raise everyones taxes if they do not get taxcuts for the rich. Going over the cliff will support such narrative. If the GOP relents and accepts taxes for the rich but can get only promises of possible cuts in 2013, then it will ignite a civil war in the GOP as fiscal conservatives declare war on the moderate wing. Either way the GOP is screwed. Remember, Obama was raised in Asia. Americans play monopoly and Asians play Go. Both are strategic games, except Monopoly is simple and straight foward, while Go is balancing short term retreats with long term encirclement of opposnent. Obama has the MSM and most Americans’ ignorance of what is happening and using it to his advantage. IMHO, the GOP should tell the Dems to introduce a bill on what Obama wants, then votes present and let the Dem minority pass the bill and all GOP vote present. This way the moderate Dems will have to chose voting for tax increases and risk lose reelection in 2014. I think Sen Rand Paul strategy is the correct one. The GOP will need to explain the political ambush Obama/MSM had set up if they actually voted for tax increases or vote against tax increases to the GOP voters.


4 posted on 12/07/2012 5:56:47 AM PST by Fee
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To: Thad Lost
What is Barack Obama’s ultimate goal in the fiscal cliff crisis?

Trick question?

5 posted on 12/07/2012 6:07:27 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.)
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To: Travis McGee
Obamugabe is just the face man for a criminal conspiracy centered on Chicago. He doesn't want anything in particular, but there are those who do have some demands.

They may already own Boehner

6 posted on 12/07/2012 6:07:27 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fee
There is no 'moderate wing' ~ mostly because there's no such thing as a moderate but that's a function of how American politics is laid out ~ no center, no wings, just coalitions of interests.

What we need to do first is decapitate the GOP-e with a totally new RNC alternative.

7 posted on 12/07/2012 6:09:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fee
There is no 'moderate wing' ~ mostly because there's no such thing as a moderate but that's a function of how American politics is laid out ~ no center, no wings, just coalitions of interests.

What we need to do first is decapitate the GOP-e with a totally new RNC alternative.

8 posted on 12/07/2012 6:09:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Increased taxes AND a fiscal crash.

He wants the crash (”cliff”) to occur regardless.
He’ll take whatever Marxist policies the GOP will concede along the way, but he still wants the crash.


9 posted on 12/07/2012 6:12:22 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Thad Lost

Exactly, Obama wants unlimited power for himself and unfortunately, he has the press and the American people on his side, plus the Senate.


10 posted on 12/07/2012 6:13:04 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: gunnyg

The only thing that will provide any cover for the House Republicans is if they very publicly present the Senate with a balanced budget, that cuts mostly programs that benefit Obama supporters, and does not increases any taxes from what they are in 2012, and increases the AMT exemption and indexes it for inflation. This will put a lot of pressure on Red State Democrats in both houses.

But I’m living in a fantasy world in which the GOP has intelligence.


11 posted on 12/07/2012 6:26:32 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Thad Lost
He wants to spend ALL of the MONEY!
Because YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO SPEND IT RIGHT!

12 posted on 12/07/2012 6:35:44 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Thad Lost
"What is it he really wants?"

Revenge!

13 posted on 12/07/2012 6:39:20 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (2012 elections: American Coup d'etat!)
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To: Travis McGee

“One of Barack Obama’s demands was the Congress cede to him the power to raise the debt ceiling unilaterally, without Congressional approval.”

“For Obama, the Holy Grail of his war against America is the ability to borrow money without any oversight.”

“Barack Obama’s ultimate goal is the destruction of America as a superpower. Obama is an unrepentant Marxist. He wants to see America, not as a superpower but as just another power. He wants to see us as a weak nation, subservient to the United Nations.”

If this was simply ONLY obama’s goal, we could stop him in a New York minute. The problem is that it is the goal of whatever forces control him and they will not stand up and say it out loud.

I also do not think this is THE ultimate goal anyway.
I think THE ultimate goal, (and you can call me crazy, I’m used to it,) is to turn the entire US into a resort for the very wealthy elite from around the world.
This country is the only country on earth that has every natural topography known to man which some countries have only 1 or 2 of. We have lakes, forests, desert, grassy plains, mountains, rolling hills, tropical swamps, natural wonders, 3 ocean coastlines, winter, summer, spring, fall, rivers, streams, animal preserves, abundant wildlife, abundant and beautiful flora and fauna. In short, we have everything...all in one place. We have the cleanest air and water in the world even on private land, but the epa/fedgov takes more and more of it and makes our own land off limits or unusable to/by us. WHY?
And we have a population that is being dumbed down to serve. A service economy is not just a simple phrase anymore. The question is, who are we going to serve.


14 posted on 12/07/2012 6:40:41 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Daveinyork

The only thing that will provide any cover for the House Republicans is if they very publicly present the Senate with a balanced budget, that cuts mostly programs that benefit Obama supporters, and does not increases any taxes from what they are in 2012, and increases the AMT exemption and indexes it for inflation. This will put a lot of pressure on Red State Democrats in both houses.

But I’m living in a fantasy world in which the GOP has intelligence.”
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They (politicians at all levels) are simply scum-—with a rare exception here and there in history—a mistake to see any one as different from another...

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15 posted on 12/07/2012 6:54:29 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Thad Lost

Obama is nothing but a little coward front. It’s who is behind him and what they want.


16 posted on 12/07/2012 7:06:50 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: gunnyg

IMHO, this is a large part of why Jim DeMint chose to leave the Senate. He got sock and tired of the juvenile antics.


17 posted on 12/07/2012 7:09:26 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: MestaMachine

” The question is,who are we going to serve.”

Bob Dylan said you gotta serve somebody.

Interesting idea you have there and just as good as any other.


18 posted on 12/07/2012 7:11:01 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: Thad Lost

” This is one fight we must win.”

Nope, already lost it.
Commies hold the gubmint and the press.
All we can do is huff and puff and wring our hands. Two hundred years ago they would have loaded muskets a long time ago.


19 posted on 12/07/2012 7:16:19 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: upchuck

We all rationalize things one way or another....

Just think of him as … “The Closer”… in a long line of minor predecessors since Hamilton, lincoln, etc.

Gunny G
aka: Dick G
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20 posted on 12/07/2012 7:18:10 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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