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Catcher in the Rye dropped from US school curriculum [replaced with environmental propaganda]
telegraph.co.uk ^ | December 7, 2012

Posted on 12/07/2012 10:25:09 AM PST by grundle

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To: Resettozero

Salinger’s work is essentially conservative. It’s about individuals trying to recover from some past trauma and regain some dignity in their lives.


61 posted on 02/20/2014 9:09:40 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
He whined about everything and did nothing. Holden committed the carnal sin of literature in that he was boring. He was the guy who corners you at a party and wearies you with the patter of little feats.

So when reading that novel keep in mind that the person was writing it while preparing for or recovering from D-Day (in which Salinger participated).

So?

No excuse for having your "hero" be a worthless whiner.

62 posted on 02/20/2014 11:08:14 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

He’s not supposed to be a completely sympathetic character. He also has signs of incipient schizophrenia.


63 posted on 02/20/2014 11:30:06 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
He’s not supposed to be a completely sympathetic character

He was boring. He actually needed some problems in his life as he had none.

He also has signs of incipient schizophrenia.

He was a narcissist, not very intelligent and lacked a desire to learn. While it is possible to write a good story where the protagonist is all of these things this was not that story.

64 posted on 02/20/2014 12:02:10 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Boring is obviously subjective. He’s regarded as one of the most engaging characters in American Lit. Not unlike Huckleberry Finn (who’s problems were much more serious). The fact that he didn’t have any ‘real’ problems is part of the theme. It’s why he struggles. An early case of Affluenza.


65 posted on 02/20/2014 12:05:40 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
He’s regarded as one of the most engaging characters in American Lit.

Probably by people who like being pretentious.

Not unlike Huckleberry Finn (who’s problems were much more serious)

Finn was actually doing something. Holden was not.

The fact that he didn’t have any ‘real’ problems is part of the theme. It’s why he struggles.

He is not struggling at all. He is enjoying being a self centered little snot.

An early case of Affluenza.

Is that a fancy way of saying he was boring?

Because he does not seem to be anything new, just your run of the mill bore.

66 posted on 02/20/2014 12:28:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

At the time his voice was completely new. The alienated urban adolescent. Hard to believe now because it’s so ingrained.


67 posted on 02/20/2014 1:37:31 PM PST by Borges
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At the time his voice was completely new. The alienated urban adolescent.

Sure it was. Why every kid I knew growing up off Arthur Avenue, Flatbush, 3rd St and Avenue A, Roosevelt Avenue, and dem places in Brooklyn and Staten Island, dey all said, "Man, dis Holden guy, it's like he's living my life!"

68 posted on 02/20/2014 1:48:24 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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The fact that he came from a blue blood privileged background added to the irony of his position.


69 posted on 02/20/2014 1:51:24 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
Only if you use the term adolescent. Otherwise it is the same story since Rome and before. Boy mopes, whines and complains about nothing but never actually pulls on his sandals and tries to do anything constructive.

I know people like to think that they are cutting edge but I bet Og in his cave would have recognized Holden as that brat from downstream.

70 posted on 02/20/2014 3:47:28 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Borges
There is no irony in being a self centered rich brat.

It is cliche to say the least.

71 posted on 02/20/2014 3:49:32 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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The irony is that he’s upset even through he seems to have nothing to be upset about. It’s more than just a generation gap...it’s tied to a specific time and place and has been endlessly imitated.


72 posted on 02/20/2014 6:22:31 PM PST by Borges
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