GOP Strategic Retreat? (It's Either 0bama's Way, Or The Highway)

Townhall.com ^ | December 8, 2012 | Larry Kudlow

[HarleyD]

Rand Paul’s idea is the best, just vote present. Let the Democrats have their way. The Republicans aren’t going to get anything meaningful from the Democrats and the Democrats will use them as the scapegoat for anything that goes wrong.

[Lockbar]

"This marxist pig is a thief at heart and nothing will stop him."

The Gangsta of the United States.

[Christie at the beach]

That is exactly right. Crush the private business owner completely and then come in to take over businesses by the government. People should understand, it is time to fight-it’s difficult to get progress when you have a speaker who is disloyal. It would take a miracle for the weak republicans to out smart the marxists. Rush told us last week that McConnell is in a place of not fighting. After what Justice Roberts did to our country; I almost expect to see anything. We are losing because of the party leaders; they give the leftists what they want.

[I am Richard Brandon]

1. Go over the cliff. Ignore the MSM.
2. Wait for the request for raising the debt limit. Ignore the MSM.
3. Link the tax rates issue to the debt limit issue. Ignore the MSM.
4. Reduce tax rate retrospectively to Jan 1. Ignore the MSM.
5. Introduce budget REDUCTIONS. Ignore the MSM.
6. PROCEED. Ignore the MSM.

[apillar]

I think Obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff, because he gets everything Democrats could possibly want in doing so. Tax's go up across the board, (don't think for a second democrat's really care about higher taxes on the middle class, higher taxes means extra money to spend and they don't care were its from), also defense gets gutted, a dream they've had for decades but couldn't achieve.

I think the only reason Obama is even playing the negotiation game is so he doesn't get any blame when we go over the cliff (like the liberal media would ever let that happen anyway). Even if the Republicans accepted flat out everything he asked for in his ridiculous proposal, he would quickly raise the bar, because he doesn't want a deal.

[flaglady47]

“Instead let’s join them.

Let us cut taxes on everyone under 250,000 and cut them even more than the democrats. And let’s give them the tax increases on the wealthy. We could even cut everyone’s taxes (under 250k) to nearly zero.

Republicans want low taxes, and less spending. Democrats want high taxes and more spending.

So let’s give everyone under 250k low taxes, maybe even really low taxes, maybe even zero taxes. Let’s tax the rich a little more, maybe 5 % more.”

Brilliant my dear Watson, absolutely brilliant.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Worth noting: Prominent conservative House leaders, like Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan, are standing behind Boehner.

Fixed. And Ryan's entitled to one mistake.

[surrey]

I was just saying to hubby last night that if my wonderful dad could see what is in the WH he just wouldn’t believe it. Every time I see that photo my stomach turns. Oh, how I despise this piece of filth.

[Road Glide]

“Sen. Rand Paul, who may have the best idea, told me in an interview this week that he’s prepared to pin the tail on Obama’s tax-and-spend donkey. “In the Senate,” Paul said, “I’m happy not to filibuster it, and I will announce tonight on your show that I will work with Harry Reid to let him pass his big old tax hike, with a simple majority, if that’s what Harry Reid wants, because then they will become the party of high taxes, and they can own it.””

Rand Paul is right.

Perhaps the best course for the Republicans would be to just step back, and tell the ‘rats (and the country):
“OK, you won. We recognize that, and we aren’t going to try to stop you. You claim that you have the solutions to the nation’s problems, and that our suggestions are worthless. Fine. Do anything you want. We will not interfere, but we will not be a part of it. It’s up to YOU to fix things.”

And when the ‘rat legislation is put up to a vote, they should vote “present” to the last Republican, or not vote at all.

(Didn’t Hank Rearden make a similar case at his trial in Atlas Shrugged?)

[Neoliberalnot]

Exactly don. He fully intends to drive off the fiscal cliff in order to steal more property and rights. It is amusing to see how he has shifted so much of the blame to congress and even to republicans. People spend more time condemning congress then the hitler in the WH, even going so far as to have our own people at the throats of their own Republican Party. No one is perfect, but the head of this evil hatred for America is the Kenyan pig, Obama.

[Flintlock]

Strategy?

WHAT strategy??

WHEEEE DON’ NEED NO STEEENKING STRATEGY!!!!

We jus’ surrender, is all.

We’s RINOs, after all.

[Neoliberalnot]

Friend in HOnolulu, says Bo was major drug dealer in HS.

[captnemo1]

Hate to say it but I think you are %110 correct.

I believe what we are seeing is the new reality of PR/media is way more important that facts.

Obama has convinced a majority of Americans that his message is the correct one. The fault is laid square at the feet of the GOP. If they balk at the fiscal cliff it’s their fault. If they embrace it, it’s their fault. No matter what it is a win for team Obama.

Four years of it’s Bush’s fault is now being substituted for it’s the GOP’s fault. No matter the outcome it will still be the fault of the GOP one way or another.

Obama can now do whatever he wants to because it’s the fault of the GOP.

The media is buying it so soon the people will also.

[Memphis Moe]

Not a strategic retreat. The Pubs have been in rout mode since W went liberal and the Dems took over congress in 2008.