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To: xzins

Unfortunately you miss the point.

You are assuming that the people in power will use good judgement and have a moral basis.

You say “It is right to quarantine the dangerous.”, what happens when a tyrant decides to quarantine us.

Everyone misses this glaring point. We are way beyond thinking we can turn this around, etc... The only answer if the Republic is to survive is to drive government out of our lives in any way, shape possible!

You big government types keep thinking it can’t happen here, or that somehow people like Obama will find their moral compass, etc... you can’t find what doesn’t exist - after all it really depends on what your definition of is - is...


186 posted on 12/11/2012 12:41:44 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer; wagglebee; wmfights; C. Edmund Wright; P-Marlowe; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl; ...
Quarantine is not a big government concept. It is as old as self-defense, and is a form of self-defense by individuals who realize a necessity to band together to combat some enemies larger than the efforts of one person.

It strikes to the very heart of the ultimate reason for having government.....defense against enemies both foreign and domestic.

Homosexuality is unnatural behavior. Homosexual "licensure" (marriage?) is unnatural marriage and unnatural community endorsement.

Is it unnatural because I don't like it?

Nope. It's is dangerous and/or death promoting behavior, and that is what has identified it as unnatural, against nature. And it has been disapproved in the vast number of societies in human history. Those which did not disapprove then became test cases proving the vast majority correct in their assessments.

The following is an article that appeared today on CNN. It is intended to be a diatribe against the Neanderthals who would think of banning HIV+ tourist/immigrants. Interestingly, Australia and New Zealand are on that list (and the US was until recently). Also, there are many middle eastern countries.

Interestingly, when cross-referenced with nations rate of HIV, those nations banning immigrant/visitor HIV+ are among the lowest in the world or on their continent.

Currently, 45 countries have laws or policies in place that deport, detain or deny entry to people who are HIV positive, according to UNAIDS, the United Nation's program on HIV/AIDS. HIV is the virus that causes AIDS.

Five countries in the Middle East bar people living with HIV from entering. Another five, including Singapore, Egypt and the Turks and Caicos, require that people who want to stay in their countries for longer than five days have to show they do not have HIV.

Until recently, the U.S. too had regulations that barred HIV-infected foreign nationals from receiving a visa to enter the country. President Obama lifted them in January 2010.

The American restrictions were introduced in 1987, when Congress directed the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to add HIV to its list of diseases of public health significance. Foreign nationals were tested for the immunodeficiency virus during medical screening by U.S. immigration. http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/11/news/companies/ceos-hiv-travel-restrictions-ceos/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_business

The bottom line is "The Unnatural Kills". The Unnatural should be disapproved.

There is absolutely NOTHING big government about defense.

260 posted on 12/11/2012 3:49:22 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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