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Teachers’ Pensions Are a Half-Trillion Short
National Review ^ | 12/14/12 | Kevin D. Williamson

Posted on 12/15/2012 4:14:14 PM PST by Libloather

Teachers’ Pensions Are a Half-Trillion Short
By Kevin D. Williamson
December 14, 2012 11:15 A.M.

The habitual overpromising and underfunding of government-employee pensions is a fiscal powder keg in an economy full of sparks — and a new report estimates that teachers’ pensions alone are underfunded by nearly a half-trillion dollars.

**SNIP**

Note that the savings per teacher derived from the reform of eligibility rules runs $450,000, or more than two and a half times the average net worth of a retirement-age U.S. household. The real value of the average teacher’s retirement benefits in low-cost Wyoming is pushing the $1 million mark. The value of the average teacher’s retirement in Illinois is estimated at $2.4 million — and they were on strike over compensation not too long ago. Illinois has been issuing debt to meet its pension obligations, an unsustainable strategy.

The economics of the pension situation is of course worrisome (terrifying), but the political lesson is depressing, too: Government simply cannot be trusted to keep honest accounts.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: funds; nea; pensions; retirement; taxandspend; teachers; trillion
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1 posted on 12/15/2012 4:14:17 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

That’s why the Obama régime will loot the IRAs and 401(k)s


2 posted on 12/15/2012 4:17:45 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Libloather
This just popped up on twitter from Dave Mustaine (Evil heavy metal singer)

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3 posted on 12/15/2012 4:19:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Libloather

I’ve got a feeling that it won’t be long until total tribal warfare is going to break out in this country. The more each tribe gets, the more they want.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Libloather

Everything government runs runs a deficit. But Obamacare is going to be the sole exception. Sure.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:37 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Libloather

Teachers deserve what they vote for: shit.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:42 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Libloather

“Improper enrichment” or “Fraud” are accurate descriptions of teacher salaries in America. They were paid to teach, failed to so do, and now want to be paid for such failure? ? ?

Somewhere, a hungry lawyer is going to see the enormous cash value of teacher assets acquired for duties they did not perform.

;-)

Pensions, indeed!

Take their illegally acquired assets. We do that to other criminals, so why not treat teachers the same?


7 posted on 12/15/2012 4:21:34 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Libloather

You’d think at least the math teachers would’ve figured this one out a long time ago.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 4:22:12 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Libloather

Every defined benefit government pensioner is a defacto millionaire. The problem is that we dont have enough productive private sector workers willing to keep government benefits at the lavish superenumerated level.

Add to that the fact that you have to tax actual productive citizens at such a rate that they cannot keep enough of their money to save for their own pensions

Government pensions will not be paid as expected.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 4:27:36 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Katechon
That’s why the Obama régime will loot the IRAs and 401(k)s

And the NYC banksters wish to loot our Social Security too. Their plan (of the ultra elite) is to disarm all Americans before they start on their second great plundering of society. The first was in 2008 and the great bailout.

I just ran across this video. Any opinions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p_Ic_OvIPtU

10 posted on 12/15/2012 4:28:21 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Libloather
My Dad worked for 40 years for a famous company that was driven out of business a few years ago by technology.As a result,his pension was turned over to the Federal agency that insures pensions (can't recall its name).As a result he lost about a third of his pension.You could say he took a pretty good “haircut”.I'd have *no* problem whatsoever with *every* government retiree in the nation (except for Armed Forces retirees) taking a pension “haircut” at *least* as big as my Dad's.
11 posted on 12/15/2012 4:33:13 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: Katechon
That’s why the Obama régime will loot the IRAs and 401(k)s

Bingo! We have a winner!!!


12 posted on 12/15/2012 4:40:51 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: P.O.E.
You’d think at least the math teachers would’ve figured this one out a long time ago.

Post of the day! Just goes to show who is teaching our children.

13 posted on 12/15/2012 4:48:49 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: cripplecreek

Gads....lol!


14 posted on 12/15/2012 4:53:13 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Libloather

I know this sounds harsh, but perhaps the teachers be asked to fund their fair share of their own pensions? I know its mean and all, and they are all poor, but many pay nothing into social security ($900/month for me) and I also try and fund my own 401. I know its a hardship and all, but should not those who benefit from it, pay for it? Its just a thought.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 5:01:09 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: Libloather

So that’s why I got a notice from the IRS that I owe them $296.00 dollars from the tax year 2010


16 posted on 12/15/2012 5:12:58 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: P.O.E.
You’d think at least the math teachers would’ve figured this one out a long time ago.

Not from what I see in the results of K-12 math education that make it to university. Maybe if math teachers majored in math, rather than math ed. . .

17 posted on 12/15/2012 5:20:33 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I am a military pensioner and I’d have no problem with a five or ten percent haircut or a multi-year COLA freeze if it was accompanied by the significant elimination of programs that the states can handle. Examples would be Energy, Education, the EPA, etc. The list is long.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 5:28:30 PM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: Libloather

Actually, the damage done by the pensions of retiring teachers to the nation’s economic system PALES when compared to the damage they have done by advancing an anti-Judaeo-Christian, anti-Western, anti-American agenda in the school system.

THAT has allowed Obama to get elected TWICE - by warping permanently the minds of generations of young Americans.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 5:45:46 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Katechon
That’s why the Obama régime will loot the IRAs and 401(k)s

Not needed; just keep the press rolling. No Problemo.
20 posted on 12/15/2012 5:52:23 PM PST by sasquatch
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