Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

And of course noncitizens do not vote in federal and state elections, though they may in a few local jurisdictions..Of course noncitizens vote in federal and state elections, who is this guy trying to fool ?Besides not being eligible for certain government jobs and social programs,right, in Calif illegals do get welfare,food stamps, etc,etc, those churches and supporters send them to certain social workers who stamp approved. Check out--->By Shelby Travis and via The Associated Press

A Republican state senator from Seminole says he'll reintroduce a proposal to allow illegal immigrants to work in Oklahoma http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/oklahoma-senator-proposes-bill-allow-illegal-immig/nTXDh/

Let me see so far ,Obama dreamact free college educations, check,work permits check, social security cards check, drivers licenses in almost all the states except what 3 or 4 states, Check. Shield and protected from our laws... Check.. Except for Hotel Joe, sanctuary cities,check.

1 posted on 12/15/2012 5:21:00 PM PST by moonshinner_09
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: moonshinner_09

This will never fly. The Democrats and the professional ethnic grievance groups would demagogue this too, and accuse proponents of wanting to make ‘undocumented’ immigrants into a second class group.

Still, it would be preferable to a path to citizenship of course, but only if these permanent, legal, non-citizen residents were not allowed to sponsor any legal immigrants through extended family chain migration. Couple that with restricting family immigration to spouses and dependent minor children, and at least such a move wouldn’t expand the pipeline of future legal immigration.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 5:30:19 PM PST by Aetius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09
The prospect of mass deportations is both unpalatable and impractical.

The big lie.
3 posted on 12/15/2012 5:34:34 PM PST by SpaceBar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

“estimated 11 million illegal immigrants among us.”

11 Mil. my you know what. More like 30 mil. or more.
Who ever gave this estimate needs to get their
cabeza out of their coulo.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 5:38:20 PM PST by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09
The prospect of mass deportations is both unpalatable and impractical.

But the undermining of our culture and destruction of our nation is both tolerable and desirable.

5 posted on 12/15/2012 5:38:42 PM PST by Altura Ct.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

They can cross off that citizenship BS. They are proud of their Mexican heritage. They’re only here for the money and freebies.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 5:41:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

That noncitizens vote illegally is simply a fact that will persist in all jurisdictions without adequate citizen checks for voter registration and voter ID requirements to back it up.

It’s interesting that the LATimes is giving support to what is basically Newt Gingrich’s idea on the subject (the catchy “Red Card” being the name he gave to permanent no-path-to-citizenship residency).

I think a combination of the following (*not* in order of importance, all of them are needed together) — a “Red Card” program, significantly heightened border enforcement, a guest-worker program, tighter sanctions against knowingly hiring persons in the country illegally, larger immigration quotas for Latin America, harsher penalties for identity-theft, blanket prohibitions on paying social benefits to persons in the country illegally, and a “DREAM act” style amnesty for folks brought here illegally by their parents (into “Red Card” status) — would actually be a comprehensive immigration reform worth adopting.

I think I’d even support “Red Card” residents being able to gain citizenship by serving honorably in the U.S. military.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 5:41:53 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

Guaranteed, they’ll do this, then get a SCOTUS decision that denying these immigrants to opportunity to become citizens is a violation of their rights under the Constitution.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 5:43:05 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09
Just stop giving them free stuff and they will go home.
11 posted on 12/15/2012 5:44:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

“Unlike current green card holders, these individuals would never have the option of naturalizing and becoming U.S. citizens.”

BRILLIANT!!! A permanent underclass of hostile, exploited helots living in ethnic enclaves throughout America, funneling American dollars overseas and having no interest in America’s success r future!


12 posted on 12/15/2012 5:50:21 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

Look the issue isn’t immigration.

The issue is what kind of people we allow into the country.

Who would benefit this country.....

A guy from India, just graduated from MIT with a PhD in electrical engineering, who want to start up his own IT company in Silicon Valley.

Or a guy from Mexico, who can’t speak English and is barely literate in Spanish, working as a dishwasher.

And quite honestly, the Indian guy would make a better member of our society, then some of countrymen who just sit on their asses all day waiting for “ObamaMoney”.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 6:10:39 PM PST by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09
With as few conditions and as broadly as possible, we should offer undocumented immigrants status as "permanent noncitizen residents.

My neighbor, who legally immigrated from Mexico, will be severely P.O.'ed with this 'solution'. He worked his arse off to get here legally.

/johnny

16 posted on 12/15/2012 6:12:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09
In fact it SOUNDS like a good plan. Too bad that good plans never work out under government management and proressive political pressure.

Besides, that 11 million illegal aliens number hasn't changed over the past ten years - isn't it time we considered the actual threat?

17 posted on 12/15/2012 6:12:32 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

This clown parrots a ton of BS and then expects us to take him seriously? What an ass.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 6:20:54 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

NO "THIRD WAY". EJECT ALL THE WETBACKS.NOW!!


23 posted on 12/15/2012 6:47:26 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09

I wouldn’t go for being in a “special social class”. They are Foreign Natioals


26 posted on 12/15/2012 8:23:55 PM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: moonshinner_09; All

Anything not 100% Deportation of all Illegals is Illegal Alien Amnesty

Anyone not supporting 100% Deportation supports Illegal Alien Amnesty

So much BS about “what to do with Illegal Aliens”. Round them up and deport them. Cut the BS. Anything else is Amnesty


27 posted on 12/15/2012 11:31:29 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson