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The Federal Government is Guilty Accomplice in School Shooting in Newtown Connecticut
oathkeepers.org ^ | 14 December, 2012 | Oathkeepers

Posted on 12/16/2012 5:34:24 AM PST by marktwain

This shooting is yet another tragic example of the failed, grotesque insistence on helpless victim zones where any crazed gunman can be assured of a large number of disarmed, undefended, helpless victims, all crammed into one place, where he can kill many children before an armed defender arrives from elsewhere. It is disturbing and sick that the federal government so hates the right of the American people to bear arms, and so hates their natural right to self defense, that the government insists on making them helpless, disarmed victims for anyone who cares to kill them. And in this case, all of the teachers and staff were willfully disarmed by the Federal Government, by force of law and threat of prison, to ensure that they would be disarmed and incapable of saving the lives of the children entrusted to their care.

That makes the Federal Government complicit in the deaths of these children, and in fact an accessory to their mass murder, by forcibly disarming (with the very real threat of prison) all the teachers, all the staff, and any parent who may have been on school property. That stupid law guaranteed the shooters would meet no immediate armed resistance, which is exactly what is needed to stop such an attack.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; connecticut; guncontrol; massshooting; oathkeepers; sandyhookgundefense; secondamendment
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A sane statement that will be ignored by the MSM. It is up to us to distribute it.
1 posted on 12/16/2012 5:34:32 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Exactly right. The Federal Government is to blame for the entire incident for failure to encourage armed teachers/administrators and leaving our children defenseless. Right on...


2 posted on 12/16/2012 5:41:25 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: marktwain

So, here is a question. Since the scene of the crime would be troubling, to say the least, would any of the LEO’s that were involved in securing and investigating be dis-allowed from having firearms in the future if they seek counseling? Seems that I heard or read that is the case for vets who are labeled with PTSD. Why would not the LEO’s be treated the same if they suffer some form of PTSD after this? What about any firemen or EMT’s? Just wonderin’.

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3 posted on 12/16/2012 5:45:37 AM PST by rktman
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To: marktwain

It goes to show how erring on the side of caution is a terribly inadequate problem-solving process.


4 posted on 12/16/2012 5:45:57 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: marktwain

This is what I have been saying all along. The State of Connecticut and the Federal Government by having the strict gun control laws assumed the responsibility of protecting the teachers and innocent children. The State and Federal lawmakers that passed these laws are responsible for the carnage, not the gun makers, for it was the lawmakers that created the situation for evil to murder the innocent children without any resistance. This is just logical, plain and simple. Why can’t the masses see this?


5 posted on 12/16/2012 5:59:39 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: marktwain

I’m for school marshals. Plain clothed and ready to handle a situation like the one in Connecticut.


6 posted on 12/16/2012 6:00:41 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: marktwain

The schools in our county have signs; “This is a gun free zone”, nothing like advertising that everyone there is unprotected.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 6:05:24 AM PST by tiki
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Not a bad idea. About $400/student - 3% to 4% of total spend. Everyone on board for raising taxes to make them available? If not then where to get the money from?


8 posted on 12/16/2012 6:07:38 AM PST by exhaustguy
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To: vetvetdoug
The State of Connecticut and the Federal Government by having the strict gun control laws assumed the responsibility of protecting the teachers and innocent children.

I'd like to see a suit for their failing their fiduciary duties.

9 posted on 12/16/2012 6:11:37 AM PST by Ray76
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To: marktwain

Not only that but this link from the Gateway Pundit plays a big part as well.
Over the past 50 years we have basically stopped hospitalizing the insane.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/liberal-policies-are-to-blame-for-todays-mass-shooting-in-newtown-ct/


10 posted on 12/16/2012 6:15:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: exhaustguy
Not a bad idea. About $400/student - 3% to 4% of total spend. Everyone on board for raising taxes to make them available? If not then where to get the money from?

Uh, at Sandy Hook that would be $280,000/yr. I think they can find a part-time armed guard for less than that.

11 posted on 12/16/2012 6:18:50 AM PST by montag813
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armed staff, not a bad idea....

thinking of being the first housewife on my street to own one ! I’m home during the day, an a girlfriend had her front door broken down while she was home - intruder ran when he saw her!

“World Peace, Baby”.....


12 posted on 12/16/2012 6:19:44 AM PST by nevermorelenore
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To: marktwain

This shooting is yet another tragic example of the failed, grotesque insistence on helpless victim zones where any crazed gunman can be assured of a large number of disarmed,

I like to compare this school incident to a police station. You do not see gunmen invading police station to shoot up all the cops. Why? All the cops have weapons to shoot back with. End of story.


13 posted on 12/16/2012 6:21:16 AM PST by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: montag813

You get what you pay for. If you can get a well armed guard that can handle someone with a Bushmaster with taped together 30 round magazines, then get them. That person will still need to live near the community to work in the school Perhaps a retired police officer in the area? Should each local district make that decision and come up with the funds? What about poor districts?


14 posted on 12/16/2012 6:29:38 AM PST by exhaustguy
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To: smith288

I’m for school marshals. Plain clothed and ready to handle a situation like the one in Connecticut.

Just train the teachers to defend themselves and their students.
In the future I would not be surprised if we find that this was another government like “Fast and Furious” planned carnage for the purpose of eliminating guns in America.


15 posted on 12/16/2012 6:35:10 AM PST by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: nevermorelenore

More guns in the hands of people willing to defend themselves is probably the best deterrent for crime there is.
But back to the insanity problem.
Not to lock these(mentally ill)people up or at the very least get them help while making sure they can’t do harm to anyone else should not be rocket science.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 6:36:15 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: vetvetdoug

If you are a bad guy which school would you attack from the below:

1. A school in the United States where by law there are no weapons in some states?

2. A school in Israel where many of the personnel are armed with pistols and rifles to protect the students?


17 posted on 12/16/2012 6:37:47 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: exhaustguy

In my local school district that would be $600,000 a year for a district with 1500 students and 3 school buildings. There are 43 teacher aides on the payroll. Cut a couple from each building and you can pay for a guard.

I call on schools in my line of business. Many have a security desk in the front manned by what looks like retired citizens looking for some extra cash. Their responsibility is to make sure you sign in when visiting the school - great security measure.

Why not man the security desk with a real armed security guard? The only thing lacking is the will of the government run schools to do it.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 6:38:12 AM PST by Cuchulain (r)
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To: marktwain

the absentee dad is a guilty accomplice, out living “married” to his affair partner leaving mom holding the bag of a mentally ill son.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 6:38:18 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: smith288

they would have been hiding behind the doors and calling the cops. just let the teachers get trained and be armed


20 posted on 12/16/2012 6:39:32 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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