Posted on 12/16/2012 10:12:03 AM PST by chessplayer
Any common sense person would also look at those who are taking advantage of this tragedy, who've created confusion, who've obstructed investigations, who've had a hand in leaving our schools defenseless (i.e., refused to fund security), and who have demonstrated an attempt in the past to create advantage (i.e., fast and furious).
Killing adults you’ve had an altercation with — yeah, okay, that’s revenge.
Killing first-graders — not revenge.
I believe all of the 'school killers' were on antidepressants. I doubt our culture is advanced enough to be mucking with brain chemistry... especially of the young.
But there is no evidence that these shootings have anything to do with the LIBOR scandal.
Where is the witness list?
I've only seen claims that the two fathers were going to testify, no evidence.
The father of Adam Lanza is a tax advisor at GE, why would he be testifying in a banking scandal?
I'll wait to see some evidence first, but nothing would surprise me about obama, even if this turns ou to be true.
By the time I was 5, I could shoot a .22 Ruger.
Dad worked third shift and I was *expected* to protect my hopeless mom until he got home the next morning.
When I was 10, I had to point the .22 through the window of the front door at the eye of the maniac who was pounding on it.
He ‘got it’ and left.
[prison guards get a lot of newly released weirdos showing up at their houses]
Every parking lot of each school I went to had Ford pickups up with rifles in racks.
Nobody ever shot up our schools.
I knew some of the teachers were secretly/”unofficially” armed.
Most of the teachers were local rednecks who'd kick your ass soon as look at you and nobody said a word if a student acted up and got thumped for it.
Ours was a very well mannered student body.
That was from the mid-60s to late 70s.
It's all changed now, thanks to our Dem nanny state bureaucrats.
Couldn't pay me to be a kid in school, now.
Lanza may have been undermedicated or off his medz. It might be that he should have been institutionalized.
His mother was a Prepper -- the media will be jumping all over that tonight. There's also a lot of revision going on. Friday and Saturday, the police found the Bushmaster in the trunk of his car. Now they're putting it in his hands and saying that was the murder weapon. I can almost hear Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel in the background: "The Bushmaster! The Bushmaster! Screw the police report, make it the Bushmaster!"
Charles Whitman, under the dire influence of his undiagnosed brain tumor, killed his family in 1966 and then ascended the clock tower on the University of Texas campus and opened fire. He killed a total of 16 people (including those at home) before passersby with weapons in their trucks and cars began to return fire, after which he didn't manage, despite being a military marksman, to kill any more people.
I went up the clock tower myself in 1973 and noticed some awfully large dents and grooves in the clock face and limestone -- one looked to be .444 Marlin or thereabouts.
At the end of it, Austin police got a shotgun-armed civilian to back them up and went up the tower and killed Whitman.
Armed citizens made a big difference that day.
I always knew where the guns were in our house, both long guns and pistols (even in my parents' bureau), but touching one without permission and without a serious emergency was unthinkable.
I first hunted deer at 9, took my first whitetail at 11, and had brought down dozens of ducks by then.
My high school had race riots. The FeeBIes came in and busted a guy who ran with Rap Brown and Eldridge Cleaver before Cambridge burned. The State Police did patrols in the halls for a while--with a K-9. There were a lot of fistfights and bomb threats, but none were stabbed or shot.
We weren't exposed to much violence on TV, "Combat", a few westerns, Hawaii Five-O, was pretty much it, and even the thought of a date with ol' sparky or the gas chamber was deterrent enough to not consider killing someone outside of some pretty rough circumstances.
A decade and a couple thousand miles away, and the rifle racks in the pickups at the local high school had more arms in them than the stores in town. No one was shot--it was unthinkable. Sam Pekinpaugh's Billy the Kid had changed the way violence was depicted in movies...and the splatter flick was becoming more in vogue.
Now, the kids have to go home and get their rifle to go hunting after school, and with the short days we have here, that makes a serious cut into their hunting time between school and sunset.
Still, pretty well behaved kids...here. But the attitude toward beating someone senseless or killing them doesn't evoke the overall horror it used to--people have been numbed toward that by more dead bodies on cable TV a night than in Chicago over the whole weekend.
You couldn't pay me to be a kid in school now, either--at least we could settle disputes the old fashioned way, and there was a distinct code of honor, of when enough was enough.
Good enough. I had thought you dismissed it out of hand, but I'll agree that I'd like to see more evidence to tie the events together.
There is nothing I would put past this administration.
bump for LIBOR investigation
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Bump for Libor investigation. I’m with you. I have been following this on other sites, and it seems as if this warrants a great deal of follow up. Too many coincidences.
I guess with many toddlers that’s the case. Don’t have too much experience with little kids. I don’t remember much of when my daughter was that little. But I do spend lots of time with and know that my grandson, who just turned 4, will innocently tell it like it is. Even if it means he will get in “trouble” for something. He does not seem to understand the concept of a lie. And he takes what the adults in his life say as absolute truth without questioning. Not that he hasn’t started rebelling a bit when told he cannot do something he wants to.
They are overprescribing drugs and overdiagnosing children with “disorders” and “syndromes” because good ol’ fashioned parenting has practically been banned by the gov’t. You are not allowed to correct your child because all correction is equated with “abuse.” And it’s far LESS abusive to put a kid on dangerous mind bending drugs than give him/her a swat on the behind (known as an “attention getter”) /s
Bring back old fashioned parenting and discipline. Notice with the advent of militant feminism and the legal booting of fathers out of the home, all these “single moms” use the child for their meal ticket, aka “child” support (aka matriarchy support) but fail to actually parent with boundaries and structure. They want dad’s wallet but NOT the disciplinary factor he brings to the family.
Yep and empathy is largely something DEVELOPED and taught; not innate. If the child is not TAUGHT empathy for others he most likely will not have it. If the child is not TAUGHT to stop throwing tantrums, (today “diagnosed” as oppositional defiance disorder—I kid you not) then he will continue to have a self centered toddler’s mind in an adult’s body. Shield said child from natural consequences of his/her actions (as is SOOO popular today; blame anything and everyone EXCEPT for Junior) and “med” him/her up and you have a disaster on your hands.
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