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To: A_perfect_lady
If you could, you'd try it. I mean, really try it. Once you try it, and you realize how unnecessarily you were complicating your life, how much the world makes sense all by itself, I think you'd run with it.

I can't imagine why I would want to. From my point of view, you're asking me to reject the colors I see and accept a world of only black and white. The colors may complicate the world (they make clothing more expensive, for example) but they are real and they add a dimension to live I would not willingly reject. But it is only my point of view that a supernatural world is more real than a natural one. I'm willing to engage with you if you are willing to engage with me. But I am asking you to explain yourself, not just assume the superiority of your argument.

But maybe not. I'm a little more careful about encouraging people to think for themselves since I noticed the number of Christians who admit that without God they have no sense of right and wrong, and no reason not to turn serial killer, etc...

Perhaps you would do better to accept each person as an individual and not start off with your prejudices. You don't know whether I have ever had a naturalistic view of the world. And I find your reduction of the Christian argument, both in your replies to me and to others, simplistic and absurd. It surprises me that you would satisfy yourself with that understanding of something you reject.

P.S. I have heard many Christians say to unbelievers, "If you would just try Jesus you would understand." I know some have come to Him that way, but I reject that as a primary approach to discussion. I would expect you to reject it, also. Do you find it is ever successful?

30 posted on 12/17/2012 1:49:17 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: ArGee
It may be a matter of personality. I LIKE simple. I like black and white. I like minimalism. So much of what people call "color" and "complexity" just looks like frills and drama to me.

As for a primary approach to discussion, in this last year I have, for the most part, abandoned discussion with religious people. I only commented on this thread because I hoped that some lurker who has considered my explanation would see it and know that they are not alone. Trying to discuss religion with the religious is like trying to discuss socialism with a liberal. It never leads to anything but a cul-de-sac.

33 posted on 12/17/2012 2:09:23 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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