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Hill Poll: Gloomy voters say US on wrong track, kids will be poorer
The Hill ^ | December 17, 2012 | Sheldon Alberts

Posted on 12/17/2012 5:14:48 PM PST by CutePuppy

A mood of economic gloom hangs over the nation as President Obama and Republican leaders scramble to strike a deficit deal that avoids automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, according to a new poll for The Hill.

The poll, conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, found nearly 6-in-10 people (59 percent) feel the country is on the wrong track. It also showed people are deeply pessimistic about their chances for future prosperity, with 54 percent saying they believe their children will be worse off as adults than their parents.

The poll results cast a shadow over talks in Washington aimed at averting the “fiscal cliff” of $500 billion in tax hikes and $109 billion in automatic spending cuts set to take effect Jan. 1.

Barely a month after Obama won a second term, and even as the nation continues to make modest job gains, fewer than 1-in-3 (31 percent) say the country is on the right track.

Only 34 percent of people feel they will be better off at the end of Obama’s second term than they are right now. And just 16 percent believe a better economic future awaits their children when they grow up.

The dour sentiment is particularly striking among Republicans, who were crestfallen over GOP nominee Mitt Romney’s defeat on Nov. 6.

Among voters who identified themselves as Republicans, 87 percent said the country is on the wrong track and a mere 8 percent said it is on the right track.

Seven-in-10 Republicans believe they will be worse off at the end of Obama’s presidency, and 80 percent said their children’s future is bleaker than their own.

Only 4 percent of Republicans think their children will be better off.

By contrast, Democrats are in a somewhat sunnier — though not overwhelmingly upbeat — post-election mood. Fifty-four percent of Democrats said they think the country is on the right track compared to 31 percent who said it is on the wrong track.

Six-in-10 Democrats, meanwhile, believe they’ll be better off in four years.

But even Democrats are worried about the country’s long-term future. Only 30 percent said their children face a brighter future and 30 percent said they will be worse off.

African Americans — who have endured high unemployment rates throughout the economic recession and recovery — are more upbeat about the country’s future than white Americans, the poll found.

While just 30 percent of whites said the country is on the right track, 44 percent of black voters believe the nation is headed in the right direction.

Similarly, 64 percent of blacks believe their families will be better off in four years compared to just 30 percent of whites. Over the long term, 56 percent of African Americans say their children face a brighter future, compared to 10 percent of whites.

The poll was taken Dec. 13 among 1,000 likely voters and is considered accurate within 3 percentage points.

The poll’s sample was 32 percent Republican, 38 percent Democrat and 30 percent who identified as neither.

Voters are evenly divided in their views on the country’s overall ideological leaning, the poll found.

Twenty-six percent of people said they believe the United States is a predominantly left-of-center nation, while 30 percent feel it is a right-of-center country. Another 25 percent felt the U.S. is neither right nor left.

Among Democrats, only 17 percent said they believe the U.S. is a left-of-center country, compared to 29 percent of Republicans who felt that way.

A near-equal number of Democrats and Republicans (31 percent and 30 percent, respectively) said the U.S. is predominantly a right-of-center country.

The Hill’s poll found a strikingly large number of voters, 59 percent, believe the U.S. is less admired around the globe than it was four years ago when Obama took office. Just 37 percent said the country is much more, or somewhat more, admired than it was four years ago.

When Obama took office, he pledged to try and restore the nation’s international standing, which he felt had been damaged during George W. Bush’s presidency.

Republicans strongly feel the opposite has occurred, with 87 percent saying the country is somewhat or much less admired than it was four years ago. Only 10 percent of Republicans say the country's image has improved.

Sixty-five percent of Democrats say the country is more admired now than when Bush left office, while 32 percent say it is less admired.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; businessroundtable; democrats; economy; elections; engler; gloom; gloomanddoom; johnengler; misery; obama; poll; republicans; romney; roundtable; wrongtrack
One has to run a particularly poor campaign and be entirely unsuitable / unelectable candidate to soundly lose the election with these kinds of numbers.

It also puts the lie to the entire notion of any "mandate" that Obama received as a result of an election, in which more people rejected "the devil they didn't know and never knew" Romney than they rejected "the devil they already knew" Obama.

1 posted on 12/17/2012 5:14:56 PM PST by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy

Where were they on election day?


2 posted on 12/17/2012 5:17:16 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: CutePuppy
"Gloomy voters say US on wrong track, kids will be poorer"

FORWARD! TO DESTITUTION!

3 posted on 12/17/2012 5:17:16 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Cloward-Piven is a two way street. Move your capital out of the U.S. Let the economy burn.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

People voted for “More Cowbell” and they’re getting it. They hate the way it feels out here, and they voted for more of the same.

F’in idiots.

I couldn’t believe people would vote for 0bambi. They’re voting for the guy who promises them the doldrums and delivers.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 5:18:43 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Cloward-Piven is a two way street. Move your capital out of the U.S. Let the economy burn.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast
"Where were they on election day?"

They voted to keep on the wrong track! As long as they're promised they'll get their "free stuff", why would they care?

5 posted on 12/17/2012 5:20:26 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: CutePuppy

We allowed an immoral, scarcely educated pompous (Obama)hole to be president.

We shall reap the “benefits” of being led by a dork.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 5:21:21 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Another indicator.
Some were at the polls suffering rat-vote-fraud on a massive scale.
Obama did so well that in some counties he got 160% of the vote. That is tough to compete with.

Massive.


7 posted on 12/17/2012 5:21:33 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: CutePuppy
"Just 16 percent believe a better economic future awaits their children when they grow up."

The American Dream is dead.

Thanks 0bama!

8 posted on 12/17/2012 5:22:07 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Just 16 percent of Americansbelieve a better economic future awaits their children when they grow up)
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To: CutePuppy

“The poll, conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, found nearly 6-in-10 people (59 percent) feel the country is on the wrong track.”

That confirms similar poll numbers broadcast before the election. So how did obuma win a second term?

How is it possible that the number of states controlled by conservatives/patriots/republicans rise to 30 from 25 in 2010?

Voting fraud is my answer. President Buckwheat is a fraudulent president and not my president.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 5:22:18 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: CutePuppy

And yet an overwhelming number voted for this on election day.

The world sucks and it’s all someone else’s fault.

Typical Obamaland attitude. :(


10 posted on 12/17/2012 5:24:40 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: CutePuppy

screw the US voter.... take your medicine.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 5:24:47 PM PST by Levy78
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To: himno hero

I’d like to see the “160%” source, please.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 5:25:58 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Just 16 percent of Americansbelieve a better economic future awaits their children when they grow up)
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To: CutePuppy
Sixty-five percent of Democrats say the country is more admired now than when Bush left office, while 32 percent say it is less admired.

All employers need to come up with a few questions that are not actually political but will reveal a persons political leaning. I strongly suggest you not hire anyone who even lean democrat. Give those jobs to people who actually have functioning brains.

13 posted on 12/17/2012 5:25:58 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Uncle Miltie
I couldn’t believe people would vote for 0bambi.

Well, they probably got paid well and voted a lot of times.

14 posted on 12/17/2012 5:27:10 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I know a guy who told me he’s voting for Obama...I asked why and he started ranting about abortion. I said pal your 50 years old, no job, no savings, no car, and no girl. And your main concern is abortion?...He voted for Obama anyway.


15 posted on 12/17/2012 5:27:19 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: CutePuppy

I talk to a lot of people every day because of my job. Believe me. Finding people around northern Arizona that are happy that we’re stuck with the Kenyan for four more years are very few and far between. Everyone I talk to seems to be in a real funk that the Kenyan was “reelected”. I usually just respond with, “He wasn’t” and let it go at that.


16 posted on 12/17/2012 5:28:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: CutePuppy

The modern American Useful Idiots got what they voted for, may they reap the full benefits of Useful Idiocy, including the very best of ‘em when they are no longer Useful


17 posted on 12/17/2012 5:31:11 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: McGavin999

“we work hard here. When your on my clock I expect you to work. We don’t allow cell phones or ipods, we have the best IT guy in the world and he blocks anything not work related on company computers. All company e-mails are logged by law and reviewed as needed. We do not, nor will we ever have a “no guns allowed” sign. Do you feel comfortable working with co-workers or customers who may have a legal concealed weapon?”

Normally runs off an Obama voter post haste.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 5:31:40 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: CutePuppy

I am tired of defending the business owners. It is way past time that the buiness owners started a national campaign against increased taxes, Obamacare and other government regulations that are stifiling their growth. The left will never allow a common sense argument to stand on its own. The left uses communist economists like Krugman and claim that they are moderate mainstream economists who claim that businesses can afford higher taxes even to the tune of say 90 percent or so. People must be taught and the best way to teach them is from the horses mouth the business owners need to impress upon the middle class that guess what those tax increases are passed on to you in the form of higher costs for goods and services and that regulations and taxes result in less employees and less hours worked.


19 posted on 12/17/2012 5:31:48 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: CutePuppy

My kids and I don’t plan to participate in Br0nc0’s vision quest.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 5:38:46 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Uncle Miltie
People voted for “More Cowbell” and they’re getting it. They hate the way it feels out here, and they voted for more of the same. F’in idiots.

I couldn't say it better.

21 posted on 12/17/2012 5:40:14 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: CutePuppy

I really think this means that the Democrats and the unions stole the election, with the abetment of the national media.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 5:40:40 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: cableguymn

Aren’t there laws in MN against that sort of expectations?


23 posted on 12/17/2012 5:44:53 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: CutePuppy
Six-in-10 Democrats, meanwhile, believe they’ll be better off in four years.

Apparently these individuals are either government employees or standing in line to get on the public payroll.

24 posted on 12/17/2012 5:48:37 PM PST by madprof98
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To: CutePuppy
Hill Poll: Gloomy voters say US on wrong track, kids will be poorer

But the upside is... they're happy anyway, because the "evil rich" people who earn more than $250K will take it in the shorts, making it "fair."

25 posted on 12/17/2012 5:51:17 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

It was posted here on the FR right after election day.... to find it means someone has to go searching,,,, but its here.


26 posted on 12/17/2012 5:51:47 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Here is one thread although there seems to be some doubt on the 140% turnout one, but it list many other high turnout areas.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958011/posts


27 posted on 12/17/2012 5:58:03 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Typical_Whitey; All
I am tired of defending the business owners. It is way past time that the buiness owners started a national campaign against increased taxes, Obamacare and other government regulations that are stifiling their growth.

There are businesses and there are "businesses," there are conservatives and there are "conservatives," there are Republicans and there are "Republicans"...

e.g., from Republicans Stabbed by Business Roundtable - B, by Jim McTague, 2012 December 15

How do you like them apples?

BTW, for the record, it's a well established fact that dogs are man's best friends, and not just in D.C.

28 posted on 12/17/2012 6:38:06 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

They voted for Obama - they have no right to b*tch and complain about America being on the “wrong track.”

Its too late for buyers’ remorse.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 6:44:51 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: I Drive Too Fast
They were at the polls voting for Owebama.
30 posted on 12/17/2012 7:12:48 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: CutePuppy

Obama’s Communist Method.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 7:30:24 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Communal Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Obama stole the election....but to no avail in his favor. He is a lame duck from the gitgo!!! And.....Michelle Obama not attending his visit to Connecticut shows what cold hearted,low life, they both are. This guy....no matter he is POTUS, is going nowhere!!! I guess the call of Hawaii was much more important then the slaughter of innocent children and adults. I am not judging those two, but....the Lord in heaven will send them where they rightfully belong!!! And.....it won’t be with the slain innocents in heaven!!! Go figure!!! Sad times for America!!!


32 posted on 12/17/2012 7:38:25 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: CutePuppy

wow. Romney was an exceptionally poor candidate, but I didn’t think he was worse than Bob Dole & McCain might have been skunked if not for Sarah Palin.

Having said that, if anyone here actually believes that 0bama won the last election, I have some beach front property in West Texas I’ll sell ya real cheap.
Carp, maybe we *do* need to legalize pot. This country is *depressed* & needs a laugh, bad.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 7:39:56 PM PST by KGeorge (- Proud member of "Nazis" for Newt /Sarcasm)
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To: CutePuppy

It takes a special kind of stupid to stick your hand in a running fan, do it again and then complain because your hand got cut off.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 8:18:00 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: sergeantdave

Voting fraud is my answer.”

You didnt notice the large number of conservative malcontents not even bothering to vote or support the Rs?

You didnt notice the massive media malpractice of liberal bias that turned Obama’s failures into Republicans fault?

You didnt see the startling exit poll that showed more people blamed BUSH than Obama for our current economic malaise? (After 4 years?!? And Obama’s stimulus was passed in 2009 and was supposed to be the cure-all?!? WTF!?!)

You didnt notice Romney’s campaign incompetence of failing to defend his character against Obama’s lies (’he killed my wife!’), attack obama’s incompetence at home or abroad or tie the horrible Obamacare bill to our economic misery?

Not to mention the ground game screwup, the Akin/Mourdock foot-in-mouth errors, debates run by Obama cheerleaders, and the intervention of Hurricane Sandy and Gov Christie hugging pres O. ...

And the #1 Reason: MILLIONS MORE DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT THAN EVER BEFORE JUST VOTED FOR “MORE OF THE SAME” AND AGAINST A GUY WHO CALLED 47% OF US MOOCHERS (um, never mind that it was mainly true, how do you ever get votes by insulting the voters...)

I mean seriously, Romney had a great Debate #1 but was otherwise only a bit better than the two worst candidates we ran in recent decades (McCain and Dole) - while Obama, horrible President, managed to ramp up the votes from the moocher class with the best data-based ground game of any campaign.

No fraud - it was worse than that. We actually had voters dumb enough to vote for this.


35 posted on 12/17/2012 8:42:07 PM PST by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

They were there. Their votes were just disappeared.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 8:44:24 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Just ran across this. Very thoughtful....how Obama could have cheated his way into the White House for the second time.

http://www.brushfires-of-freedom.com/steal-an-election.html


37 posted on 12/17/2012 8:53:02 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: KGeorge
... if anyone here actually believes that 0bama won the last election,

Well, in a sense, Obama didn't "win" it - this was the election for Republicans to lose, and the "electable" "successful manager" Mitt Romney managed to lose it in spectacular fashion (e.g., struggling to win NC, when it shouldn't have even been considered a "battleground" / "swing" state and was easily swept by GOP, is just one case).

But if anyone there actually believes that Obama has any kind of "mandate" coming from this election, they didn't read the numbers in the poll.

38 posted on 12/17/2012 8:54:49 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

On the wrong track? Yes, and we’ve been on it long enough to run up a 16 trillion dollar debt that will increase to 20 during BO’s second term.

A debt of that size is not an abstract thing, not simply a bookkeeping entry. It is an awful reality that will bleed us for years to come.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 3:32:09 AM PST by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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To: I Drive Too Fast
Where were they on election day?

They were there, they just couldn't compete with the Chicago machine.

40 posted on 12/18/2012 3:58:22 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Malesherbes
Yes, and we've been on it long enough to run up a 16 trillion dollar debt that will increase to 20 during BO's second term.

Yep, Obama will pretty much double the debt load during his "tenure" and cut in half (or worse) the typical rate of growth of the economy in "recovery" - that will be his legacy "inherited" by his White House successor.

Amazingly and ironically, his and his Democratic minions' voters are the very rich (Richest ZIP Codes Paying Up Part of U.S. Voting Democrats: Taxes - BL, by John McCormick, 2012 December 17) and those in ethnic, gender and age groups who have experienced the sharp increases in unemployment and poverty rates "on his watch" due to his economic and "social justice" policies.

Dumb, dumber and dumberer - keep voting for the same and expecting a better outcome - "stupid are as stupid do".

41 posted on 12/18/2012 4:04:13 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: sergeantdave

I agree with you. Obama did not win re-election. That is why we see polls like this. He did not win.

Voter fraud won it for him.

No one does a damn thing about it, so the country will go down.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 4:13:25 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

“No one does a damn thing about it, so the country will go down.”

Only if We the People let it.


43 posted on 12/18/2012 4:23:31 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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