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Brady group: Arming teachers ‘insane’
Odd Onion ^ | 2012-12-18 | KEVIN ROBILLARD

Posted on 12/18/2012 11:54:34 AM PST by Enosh

The head of the country’s most prominent gun control advocacy group on Tuesday called a Texas GOP congressman’s idea to arm teachers “insane.”

“There are 40 people behind me who would love to respond to that,” said Dan Gross, the president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, when asked at a Capitol Hill press conference about Rep. Louie Gohmert’s suggestion to arm teachers and principals to prevent future school shootings. “But in their spirit, I will do on behalf of them: That’s insane.”

Gross, whose brother was wounded during a mass shooting at the Empire State Building in 1997, was standing in front of 40 family members of gun violence victims, including family members of victims of deadly mass shootings in Tucson, Ariz., at Columbine High School, in Aurora, Colo., at Virginia Tech and the South Capitol Street shooting in Washington, D.C. Family members nodded their heads as Gross spoke.

“Think about what that’s saying,” Gross said. “It’s saying the only answer to violence is more violence. The only answer to guns is more guns.”

Gross said additional weapons at most of the “chaotic” mass shootings of recent years, including his brother’s shooting, and at the mass shooting in Aurora earlier this year, would have only resulted in “more carnage.”

“I would hope the representative is held responsible for irresponsible statements like that,” Gross added.

Among the 40 family members was Andrei Nikitchyuk, whose 8-year-old son, Bear, was a student at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., where 26 people were shot and killed Friday. Nikitchyuk’s son survived the shooting after a teacher pulled him out of the hallway and barricaded the door to her classroom.

“I would offer the NRA: Return this country their kids,” Nikitchyuk told reporters after the press conference. “If they can do it, I would like that very, very much.”

Nikitchyuk, who emigrated to the United States 22 years ago, said he tried to ignore past mass shootings, and said he believed gun owners and politicians would do anything they could to protect children. Now, Nikitchyuk said, the country needs to speak up and demand more gun control.


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“It’s saying the only answer to violence is more violence..."

When the bad guy is dead after his first shot, that's less violence.

1 posted on 12/18/2012 11:54:40 AM PST by Enosh
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To: Enosh
“It’s saying the only answer to violence is more violence..."

Man, they are quick.

2 posted on 12/18/2012 11:57:54 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Enosh
The Brady bunch are the insane ones.
They're Klingons - that's all there is to it.
3 posted on 12/18/2012 11:59:10 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: Enosh

I’m sure the Democrats and Teachers Unions all agree it’s much better for a Teacher to be “Well Trained” (as I keep hearing on TV) in a Emergency plan that involves cowering in a classroom waiting to be gunned down....than a plan to shelter the kids...grab some cover....and put a couple of rounds through the Psycho’s head.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 11:59:26 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Enosh

I don’t think any of the forty people for the Brady Commission is qualified to characterize anybody insane. SThe problem we are dealing with - Virginia Tech, Aurora, Sandy Hook - involves people who actually are insane.


5 posted on 12/18/2012 12:00:55 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Enosh

Is arming bank guards insane too?


6 posted on 12/18/2012 12:01:01 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: Enosh
Texas school’s ‘Guardian Plan’ allows teachers to have guns
7 posted on 12/18/2012 12:01:21 PM PST by Fawn (GIVE OBAMA EVERYTHING HE WANTS--Get out of they way for BLAME)
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To: Enosh

I detest people who make careers out of their loved one’s death.


8 posted on 12/18/2012 12:02:27 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Enosh

I guess it’s “insane” for cops to carry firearms as well.


9 posted on 12/18/2012 12:04:26 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: grobdriver

“Hi folks. Just get in the box car.” Brady thinkers: “Oh boy. A special trip just for us?” They would board rather than put up a fuss and try to defend themselves. When seconds count the cops are only 20 minutes away. How many SS guys were standing around Reagan and Jim when Hinckley got off 6 shots? Didn’t seem to help that time either. Outlaw insanity. That’s the ticket.

Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years.


10 posted on 12/18/2012 12:04:54 PM PST by rktman
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To: Enosh

The Brady Campaign is stained with the blood of the Sandy Hook Massacre.

Shame on them for causing the victims to be unable to defend themselves!


11 posted on 12/18/2012 12:05:15 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Enosh
Disarming teachers ... compelling those who operate schools (whether government or private) to operate as defenseless free-fire zones for criminals ...

THAT is insane.

12 posted on 12/18/2012 12:05:15 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cruise_missile

As was said on a previous thread. We have armed guards at airports, banks and court houses. But not for our kids?


13 posted on 12/18/2012 12:05:29 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Enosh

Well said.


14 posted on 12/18/2012 12:07:48 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Enosh
I would trust my wife and teacher with a gun. Daughter of a COP, she knows more about guns than most. I would want her to use a ring safety devise.
15 posted on 12/18/2012 12:08:42 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Enosh
Gross, whose brother was wounded during a mass shooting at the Empire State Building in 1997, was standing in front of 40 family members of gun violence victims, including family members of victims of deadly mass shootings in Tucson, Ariz., at Columbine High School, in Aurora, Colo., at Virginia Tech and the South Capitol Street shooting in Washington, D.C. Family members nodded their heads as Gross spoke.

How many of these mass shooting were in gun-free zones? My guess is most of them. The Brady Bunch had their wish in that case. No guns at all. Look what happened.

The dirty little secret is, the Brady Bunch enjoys these mass shooting incidents.

16 posted on 12/18/2012 12:13:15 PM PST by matt04
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To: Enosh

Went to Walmart to check on a Ruger Mini-14. They sold the only one they had but the clerk said more were on order. At least they weren’t being a Dick (sporting goods).


17 posted on 12/18/2012 12:13:50 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: TheDon

We need a high-capacity gun-free zone ban.


18 posted on 12/18/2012 12:13:57 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Enosh

“The head of the country’s most prominent gun control advocacy group on Tuesday called a Texas GOP congressman’s idea to arm teachers “insane.”

If Teachers can not be trusted with a specific type of tool, then this statement is an admission that these same teachers can not be trusted with children!


19 posted on 12/18/2012 12:14:51 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Enosh
So, Mr. Gross, I ask you. Is the answer to dealing with someone who is armed and bent on killing as many innocent people as possible, to disarm the people so that the perpetrator can inflict mass casualities with impunity? You believe the answer for less violence is to do nothing to stop the shooter? You believe that implementing a new ban on future sales of firearms will result in the next person who wants to inflict such carnage to decide not to because there is a new law?

Mr. Gross, THAT is insane!

20 posted on 12/18/2012 12:16:29 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Enosh
Brady Group - Less than useless bunch of sniveling cowards, I will never be that.
21 posted on 12/18/2012 12:19:53 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Enosh

Mr. Gross, you are a delusional moron with an infantile “mind.” Kindly sit down, shut up, and the rational adults come up with real solutions - as has happened in Texas.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 12:23:14 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Enosh

This guy thinks it’s “INSANE” to let teachers defend theirs and their student’s lives.


23 posted on 12/18/2012 12:23:50 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Enosh

The Brady gun grabbers are ENEMIES of the state. No different than Islamafascists.


24 posted on 12/18/2012 12:28:53 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Enosh

It seems to me to be insane to leave our weakest and most vulnerable unprotected.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 12:42:32 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: Enosh
The Brady group came into prominence by parading the seriously brain damaged Jim Brady before large gatherings of anti-gun fanatics. It was a reprehensible misuse of one severely wounded in the attempt to kill President Reagan in 1981. In my opinion, these people are morally corrupt demagogues, not interested in a rational discussion.

Compare Switzerland, where youth have been armed with military grade firearms for centuries, with the urban areas of California, or the gun control Meccas of New York & Chicago, to understand what offers the most violence!

William Flax

26 posted on 12/18/2012 12:50:36 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: grobdriver

Why don’t they leave it up to the parents in each community. I will send my kids to schools with armed teachers and they can send their kids to gun free schools. The only thing that is insane is these idiots trying to make our choices for us.


27 posted on 12/18/2012 12:52:22 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Enosh

"What do they want us to use? harsh language?"

28 posted on 12/18/2012 12:54:00 PM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Enosh

We need an emergency law writing task force.

Whenever a person goes on a killing spree they (the task force) would spring into action and PASS A NEW LAW making it illegal for that shooter to be there.

That’ll fix it


29 posted on 12/18/2012 12:56:18 PM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: peeps36

I can think of several teachers who I would wholeheartedly trust with a weapon - and several I would not.

If they make it a voluntary program and have a goal of having just a few armed staff in each building, then that would certainly help matters.

I sure wish that principal had had a weapon to grab.
She seems like one brave lady.


30 posted on 12/18/2012 12:57:23 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

I talked with a CCHL teacher the other day.
She said that she gets a few every year that have had ZERO experience or training with firearms that are wanting to get their CCHL...

unbelievable.


31 posted on 12/18/2012 12:59:36 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Enosh

Do these people (Brady Group) even understand the word D-EF-E-N-S-E ? Defense! Why does the wiring in their brain prevent them from even considering this concept?


32 posted on 12/18/2012 1:00:27 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Scotswife

oops... make that CCHL _Instructor_


33 posted on 12/18/2012 1:00:27 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Enosh

Someone pay for them a trip to Israel just to observe the schools in that country...


34 posted on 12/18/2012 1:06:32 PM PST by rxtn41
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; JRandomFreeper
“It’s saying the only answer to violence is more violence...” Man, they are quick.”

Wow, now I get it. If a bad guy is killing people where I am, he is creating violence, that is one person violence, but, if I shot and killed him, that would be more violence, now two people creating violence, and that is BAD.

Now that I get it, I will never interfere with a killer shooting people - I won't be guilty of creating TWO people MORE violence. I just hope he can't shoot through this table I'm under with my gun loaded with regular bullets since the govn. outlawed hollow point bullets. I can tell he's shooting hollow points because the people are all dead. I can't buy hollow points anymore but he got his somewhere. In fact, he got his outlawed gun somewhere - regular people can't get those anymore.

If I get out of this bad situation alive, I'll crawl in my bed and pull the covers over my head and stay there.

Bovine Scatology, I'm killing the SOB.

35 posted on 12/18/2012 1:09:42 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Enosh

The Brady Bunch is insane.


36 posted on 12/18/2012 1:11:05 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: cruise_missile
"Is arming bank guards insane too?"

They value money.

37 posted on 12/18/2012 1:11:05 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: MrB

right. well...everyone has to start somewhere.

I certainly have had no experience although I am married to a man who is an avid hunter.

In the past few days as I’ve read the MSM description of Nancy Lanza, it has occurred to me that I’m married to a gun obsessed enthusiast who LOVES his guns and has even gone to SHOOTING RANGES on occasion!

Up until now - I thought I was just married to a typical country boy.


38 posted on 12/18/2012 1:11:12 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Enosh

To the anti-gun crowd, there’s only one answer to anything. No thought of providing protection for students, no thought of trying to identify and help mentally ill people, no thought about how violence is depicted in the popular culture. The only thing they will advocate is going after guns.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 1:12:24 PM PST by popdonnelly
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Regarding my post 35. A Freeper suggested to me today that hollow point bullets might be outlawed along with assault type rifles plus clips/magazines with more than 10 bullets.

It makes sense they would want to get rid of hollow points since they create much more damage and tend to stop the target right there.

If they outlaw them, the killers will have them and we won't. I had some but unfortunately, mine were in that boat some Freeper keeps insisting his guns were in and the boat capsized. Yes, that's the ticket, mine were also in that boat.

40 posted on 12/18/2012 1:25:35 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Enosh
Image and video hosting by TinyPicImage and video hosting by TinyPicThe Israeli solution: Love and Protect their children, not EAT THEM !!
41 posted on 12/18/2012 1:44:59 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: jakerobins

I am sure that 95% of the teachers in Conn. are good libs and would not even consider arming themselves.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 1:45:43 PM PST by certrtwngnut (He shrugs!)
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To: austinaero
The Brady bunch imagine you can teach everyone the principles of Ahemsa and they will always conform.

It's actually a very stupid idea because people don't work that way.

43 posted on 12/18/2012 1:46:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Definitely ~ the Brady crowd can relate to money, and to airplanes, but not to school children.


44 posted on 12/18/2012 1:47:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: grobdriver

A Klingon would fight back.


45 posted on 12/18/2012 1:50:46 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: austinaero

D-E-F-E-N-S-E
libs don’t even want it in sports. It would make the games more fair.


46 posted on 12/18/2012 1:51:55 PM PST by certrtwngnut (He shrugs!)
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To: Enosh

Person with brains: Brady Group absolutely worthless on the subject of guns.


47 posted on 12/18/2012 2:01:04 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Enosh

Very funny of the Brady Campaign. The people who were last to privately meet with Obama and Holder before Fast and Furious. Sounds like their version of the ends justifying the means was the wholesale slaughter of innocent Mexicans.


48 posted on 12/18/2012 2:01:44 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Scotswife

If the principal had a gun in her hand maybe she could have killed the coward or made him flee the building. I heard that she tried to go after him with just her bare hands. Adding another law to the books might make some people feel better but it won’t make us any safer.


49 posted on 12/18/2012 2:05:17 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: riri

I’m with you...
While you try to understand their pain, the use of this or any tragedy to force a political agenda is repulsive...
like 9/11 families who went after Bush and Condi in a congressional hearing...
AND they do NOT represent all the families but they never point that out.


50 posted on 12/18/2012 2:06:33 PM PST by matginzac
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