Skip to comments.Police find no evidence Connecticut gunman was on medication
Posted on 12/18/2012 3:32:45 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
While Newtown buried two more young victims Tuesday in the shooting massacre, authorities said they found no evidence the gunman who killed 27 people was being medicated for mental illness.
Investigators searching the Connecticut home gunman Adam Lanza shared with his mother, Nancy Lanza, seized cellphones, computers and computer games, but found nothing at the residence to indicate he was taking medication, Hearst Connecticut Newspapers reported.
Authorities armed with search warrants are still working to obtain the 20-year-old man's medical records, according to the report. Lanza's parents told friends and divorce mediators that their son had Asperger's syndrome, a form of high-functioning autism, but it was unclear if he had ever been formally diagnosed.
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was his blood even tested for illegal drugs? If I slip and fell at work and had to go the ER, I would get tested for drug use. this guy murdered a kindergarten classroom full of kids but did we test him for drugs?
ba ba but...
A toxicology will be done at the autopsy.
I would think a full autopsy was done, including pathology, but will we ever know the facts in this? I have read he was on something (forget the name) and now we read he wasn’t. We have read his mother was a teacher, then an aide, then a volunteer, then that she had no connection to the school. We read the rifle was found in the trunk of the car but the ME said the victims were killed with a rifle. Are there any actual FACTS in this case, other than the number killed???
Medications don't make a person a killer any more than does a gun.
True, but NOT being on your medications can make you as easily as dangerous, and i wouldnt be surprised if that was the real issue here.
The point is that the evil bastard didn't just snap, he planned to kill.
I have been saying on FR. I believe that Adam was just a manipulative & lazy BRAT.
Momma's boy, and she made it so comfortable for him, he had it made.
Suddenly momma wakes up & says it's time for you Adam to get up off your 20 year old lazy behind and get a job, get out of this house. That's when all hell broke loose.
Up to that point little ADAM knew exactly how to play his mother, which buttons to press. She would either give him his way or buy him something. I suspect he did not want to go live with his father, couldn't get his way there.
That is how mother began losing it as well. Spare the Rod, spoil the child.
So will all new gun purchases require a disclosure that anyone in your family has Asperger’s or is (or isn’t) on their meds, or was a geek in high school?
Well this FR thread certainly indicates he should have been under psych eval and possibly hospitalization. So now the argument shifts, should he have been treated more agressively including drug therapy?
Would a test show Demon possession? I think the guy was sold out to Satan. How else would a guy kill little children?
That’s the “evidence”? They didn’t find any at the apartment.
This whole case stinks to high heaven.
He had his brother’s drivers license. Did he have one, himself? Did he have this “Aspurgers”, or not?
There certainly seems to be a complete lack of authoritative information. It all sounds like complete guesswork.
I am sure they did. Routine in any death that involves even the possibility of a crime.
Medications don’t make a person a killer any more than does a gun.
Studies done on people taking SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) would indicate otherwise. A google search reveals information on these drugs that lead one to believe that some people may be negatively impacted by taking these drugs as they do change the brain chemistry.
IF the allegations that this kid had Asperger’s Syndrome and you add a SSRI that can remove inhibitions and reveal the true you, then you very could well end up with an unfeeling person capable of acting on hostile thoughts with no empathy or remorse.
** Not a doctor, nor do I play one on the internet, just relaying what I’ve read **
Oh...wait, wait...Shep just said on fox it was the rifle.!!
so it must be true.
If truly asperger’s Syndrome there would be no medications unless he was being treated for secondary issues - like anxiety, depression. Honestly, I think the crazed shooter, probably also had a good old case of Schizophrenia. Unfortunately, in diagnostic of schizophrenia, generally not done until the youth was 21 - 22. when the disordered is manifest.
Asperger’s Syndrome is generally diagnosed when the child is 5-7. Diagnosis became more prevalent after 1991, when Aspereger’s became known as a new learning disability.
The child with a learning disability could be with the school system until age 21. yet, the mother strived to take him out of the school system, yet he was believed to taking classes at a college too.
The media needs to look for Individualized Education Plan (IEP) for Adam Lanza. With the IEP, which would give the media a better understanding of the disorder.
It needs to be understand, not evryone with Asperger’s Syndrome becomes crazed and becomes a killer. There is more to the psychological makeup of Adam Lanza. There is also problems with the environment of Lanza - home life troubles divorced parents, mother may have been a little unbalanced herself.
wikkipedia has a good article about Asperger’s Syndrome though it is 22 pages long.
Lets leave piling on the mother to the Libs and the MSM...they are doing such a great job at defaming this woman.
AOL had called her a “closet bar fly”...Oh, where oh where are the Women’s Libbers?
However Lanza's uncle on 60 minutes said that Adam was given the psychotropic prescription drug, Fanapt.
That might be an explanation for killing the mother, what about the adults at the school? And most of all why the children? What possible role could they have had in his life? I can not think of any.
This person was just an evil murderous depraved monster.
Mother's are mothers, good hearted, soft, want to please, that is just the way we are made.
Her boy knew exactly how to manipulate her to get what he wanted. Sweet one minute, the devil the next if he does not get his way.
Moms are not naturally spankers, and in this day and age I don't think anyone is.
By the time Ms. Lanza finally understood what he was doing, she sought help. I too would have told that kid "Get off your lazy azz and get a job". That is what I think happened.
Adams play time easy life was over.
Check out Drudge’s main headline.
Looks like one of the side effects is weight gain (in addition to possibly feeling like hurting yourself or others).
Is the fat Adam Lanza anarchist Facebook someone put up earlier him?
Possibly his mother discussed with Adam that she thought it was time for him to get on with his life, get a job and that she had discussed this with the adults at the school.
Now he is in a RAGE knowing that she discussed HIM with the outside world. The children may have been just a convenient defenseless afterthought in that rage, as he knew his mother loved those children. Jealousy and Hate?
Seeing as he smashed his hard drives, he probably threw out his medication as well.
We'll learn the truth soon enough once the toxicology reports and medical records are released and then, I'll wager, he was taking something.
Guns don't cause delusions, mania and paranoia. Some medications do including the one that he was on or withdrawing from.
I wish people would stop talking about this being time for “the healing to begin.” Are they high? The dead aren’t even buried, parents are still staggering around in shock, the dead children’s gifts are still under the tree, and someone says it’s time for the healing to begin?? They should get a riflebutt to the teeth for such a remark. It’ll be months and months before there’s any “healing.” These people are still dripping blood from their hearts, for pete’s sake.
Time will tell.
Whether he was medicated or not will be VERY interesting. There are conflicting claims. If it turns out that one of these “serotonin re-uptake inhibitor” drugs is involved it will be no surprise.
I do believe there was an Argument of some sort in that home. Most likely he knew his Playhouse and easy life was about over, one way or another.
I will withhold an opinion on if he had a mental illness for now. More in my opinion just a 20 year old Manipulative, lazy Brat.
Spare the Rod, spoil the child, (and call it autism, give them Ritilin.)
“Medications don’t make a person a killer any more than does a gun”. http://www.ssristories.com/index.php
At this point in all the speculation, nothing would suprise me. lol
I hear you.
I’m very curious to learn exactly what “meds” he was on as well. The dispensing of medication to adolescents is troubling to me.
Either way, spoiled brat or whatever.....he was obviously not right. I’m curious to hear the “rest of the story”. Might take awhile, though.
Thread Headline: No evidence of medication.
20 years of spoiling a child by a loving and caring mother who can never be what he needed, a stern Father.
I am waiting to hear what his father has to say about Adam, then we may know something of truth.
It's worth looking at for 30 seconds. I urge you to click on this link and just take half a minute scanning the information here:
I think a lot of this is driveby media over-reach. Trying to be the first on this and that, they out did themselves time and again by spouting idle speculation, second hand heresy and conjecture as fact.
This happens during every crisis, tragedy, attack, etc.
Consider 9/11 (Capitol blown up, White house hit), Katrina (people in Superdome eating each other), Aurora (must be TEA partier), etc.
NONE of it was fact. We had to wait.
There’s usually about 10 minutes of real news in a 24 hour period, but then they have to find something to fill the airwaves with for another 23 hours and 50 minutes.
When stuff like this happnes, they have an hours worth of real news, but still 23 hours of talk-talk-talk.
It already has been reported that the kid was given Fanopt. Why are you repeating the gun grabbing Ruppert Murdoch's, Fox's misleading headline.
Way more to this than just a spoiled brat, this guy systematically executed one 6 year old after another
I did not mean to come off snarky to you. I apologize.
I believe one of the theories that is out there now,(who knows?), is that mother was going to committ Adam to the hospital.
I don’t think he was “spoiled”, I think he was very seriously mentally ill and unfortunately we have severe limitations on treating the very mentally ill. Its not an easy thing. We pay a high price for freedom. I am sure that this poor mother tried everything she could and it wasn’t easy for her. And of course, dad took off.
Having said that, I am for having either a trained in guns teacher armed or a police officer in the schools.
Back at ya: "It already has been reported that the kid was given Fanopt"
Really, must not have been to loudly. What is Fanopt anyway?
Then why do the drug ads warn about suicidal thoughts can be a side effect of these psychotrophic drugs?
Aspergers is not going to make him likely to kill—not at all.
Sorry abut the misspelling (and the slightly terse post). Anyway the correct spelling is Fanapt. Please see link.
""""" I am sure that this poor mother tried everything she could and it wasnt easy for her. And of course, dad took off."""".......
I agree, I am sure she was at her wit's end. Dad may have had another opinion on what was needed.
I'm sure he had some mental issues, just not sold on all that has been discussed on FR or the Media.
I would like to hear what the father has to tell us.
last time I was a professional driver and I was hit by a drunk driver they made me pee in a cup then they wanted a hair sample for “further testing” (they being the company and insurance company)
The drunk plowed in to the back of my PARKED truck while I was in the sleeper..
They better have tested his blood!
Yikes, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I'll believe that until someone gives me solid evidence I'm wrong.
Oh what to believe? I speculate that too many in the Media are speculating. They all want the Pulitzer Prize Scoop, and secure it by any means necessary. Heck make it up if need be, the masses will believe anything. lol
Mark my words, tomorrow we will all hear a completely different take on this and we will all be back here picking it apart. rofl.
Personally I think FOX gets their analysis right here in FR.,
And the brother.
You too? nothing to be ashamed of, they are NUTS themselves.
Well maybe not really nuts as we think it. They just have a Degree that says they have the POWER to judge you insane, and don't you forget it. Time up, see ya next week, (cha ching). You do know it is not in their best interest to ever cure anyone?