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Police find no evidence Connecticut gunman was on medication
foxnews.com ^ | December 18, 2012

Posted on 12/18/2012 3:32:45 PM PST by ilovesarah2012

While Newtown buried two more young victims Tuesday in the shooting massacre, authorities said they found no evidence the gunman who killed 27 people was being medicated for mental illness.

Investigators searching the Connecticut home gunman Adam Lanza shared with his mother, Nancy Lanza, seized cellphones, computers and computer games, but found nothing at the residence to indicate he was taking medication, Hearst Connecticut Newspapers reported.

Authorities armed with search warrants are still working to obtain the 20-year-old man's medical records, according to the report. Lanza's parents told friends and divorce mediators that their son had Asperger's syndrome, a form of high-functioning autism, but it was unclear if he had ever been formally diagnosed.

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1 posted on 12/18/2012 3:32:48 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

was his blood even tested for illegal drugs? If I slip and fell at work and had to go the ER, I would get tested for drug use. this guy murdered a kindergarten classroom full of kids but did we test him for drugs?


2 posted on 12/18/2012 3:36:45 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

ba ba but...


3 posted on 12/18/2012 3:37:00 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: RC one

A toxicology will be done at the autopsy.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 3:39:06 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: RC one

I would think a full autopsy was done, including pathology, but will we ever know the facts in this? I have read he was on something (forget the name) and now we read he wasn’t. We have read his mother was a teacher, then an aide, then a volunteer, then that she had no connection to the school. We read the rifle was found in the trunk of the car but the ME said the victims were killed with a rifle. Are there any actual FACTS in this case, other than the number killed???


5 posted on 12/18/2012 3:40:49 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
found nothing at the residence to indicate he was taking medication,

Medications don't make a person a killer any more than does a gun.

6 posted on 12/18/2012 3:40:51 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

True, but NOT being on your medications can make you as easily as dangerous, and i wouldnt be surprised if that was the real issue here.


7 posted on 12/18/2012 3:48:14 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
True, but NOT being on your medications can make you as easily as dangerous, and i wouldnt be surprised if that was the real issue here.

The point is that the evil bastard didn't just snap, he planned to kill.

8 posted on 12/18/2012 3:50:52 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: ilovesarah2012
If there were no drugs, we may can rule out mental illness, not that he was not evil, he was.

I have been saying on FR. I believe that Adam was just a manipulative & lazy BRAT.

Momma's boy, and she made it so comfortable for him, he had it made.

Suddenly momma wakes up & says it's time for you Adam to get up off your 20 year old lazy behind and get a job, get out of this house. That's when all hell broke loose.

Up to that point little ADAM knew exactly how to play his mother, which buttons to press. She would either give him his way or buy him something. I suspect he did not want to go live with his father, couldn't get his way there.

That is how mother began losing it as well. Spare the Rod, spoil the child.

9 posted on 12/18/2012 3:58:30 PM PST by annieokie
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To: ilovesarah2012

So will all new gun purchases require a disclosure that anyone in your family has Asperger’s or is (or isn’t) on their meds, or was a geek in high school?


10 posted on 12/18/2012 4:01:23 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: annieokie

BookmArk


11 posted on 12/18/2012 4:07:54 PM PST by The SISU kid (I think they taste like Barbie dolls smell.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Well this FR thread certainly indicates he should have been under psych eval and possibly hospitalization. So now the argument shifts, should he have been treated more agressively including drug therapy?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2970064/posts


12 posted on 12/18/2012 4:11:27 PM PST by pfflier
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To: The SISU kid

Would a test show Demon possession? I think the guy was sold out to Satan. How else would a guy kill little children?


13 posted on 12/18/2012 4:12:49 PM PST by Rodm
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To: ilovesarah2012

That’s the “evidence”? They didn’t find any at the apartment.

This whole case stinks to high heaven.

He had his brother’s drivers license. Did he have one, himself? Did he have this “Aspurgers”, or not?

There certainly seems to be a complete lack of authoritative information. It all sounds like complete guesswork.


14 posted on 12/18/2012 4:15:45 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: RC one

I am sure they did. Routine in any death that involves even the possibility of a crime.


15 posted on 12/18/2012 4:17:05 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Medications don’t make a person a killer any more than does a gun.


Studies done on people taking SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) would indicate otherwise. A google search reveals information on these drugs that lead one to believe that some people may be negatively impacted by taking these drugs as they do change the brain chemistry.

IF the allegations that this kid had Asperger’s Syndrome and you add a SSRI that can remove inhibitions and reveal the true you, then you very could well end up with an unfeeling person capable of acting on hostile thoughts with no empathy or remorse.

** Not a doctor, nor do I play one on the internet, just relaying what I’ve read **


16 posted on 12/18/2012 4:17:57 PM PST by cidrasm
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To: ilovesarah2012

Oh...wait, wait...Shep just said on fox it was the rifle.!!

so it must be true.


17 posted on 12/18/2012 4:18:01 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

If truly asperger’s Syndrome there would be no medications unless he was being treated for secondary issues - like anxiety, depression. Honestly, I think the crazed shooter, probably also had a good old case of Schizophrenia. Unfortunately, in diagnostic of schizophrenia, generally not done until the youth was 21 - 22. when the disordered is manifest.

Asperger’s Syndrome is generally diagnosed when the child is 5-7. Diagnosis became more prevalent after 1991, when Aspereger’s became known as a new learning disability.

The child with a learning disability could be with the school system until age 21. yet, the mother strived to take him out of the school system, yet he was believed to taking classes at a college too.

The media needs to look for Individualized Education Plan (IEP) for Adam Lanza. With the IEP, which would give the media a better understanding of the disorder.

It needs to be understand, not evryone with Asperger’s Syndrome becomes crazed and becomes a killer. There is more to the psychological makeup of Adam Lanza. There is also problems with the environment of Lanza - home life troubles divorced parents, mother may have been a little unbalanced herself.

wikkipedia has a good article about Asperger’s Syndrome though it is 22 pages long.


18 posted on 12/18/2012 4:19:03 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: annieokie

Lets leave piling on the mother to the Libs and the MSM...they are doing such a great job at defaming this woman.
AOL had called her a “closet bar fly”...Oh, where oh where are the Women’s Libbers?


19 posted on 12/18/2012 4:20:18 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
This article only says that the cops did not find any prescription drugs.

However Lanza's uncle on 60 minutes said that Adam was given the psychotropic prescription drug, Fanapt.

Adam Lanza was on Fanapt, an antipsychotic drug with violence as a side effect

20 posted on 12/18/2012 4:21:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: annieokie

That might be an explanation for killing the mother, what about the adults at the school? And most of all why the children? What possible role could they have had in his life? I can not think of any.

This person was just an evil murderous depraved monster.


21 posted on 12/18/2012 4:25:48 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Never piled on the mother, sorry you took it that way.

Mother's are mothers, good hearted, soft, want to please, that is just the way we are made.

Her boy knew exactly how to manipulate her to get what he wanted. Sweet one minute, the devil the next if he does not get his way.

Moms are not naturally spankers, and in this day and age I don't think anyone is.

By the time Ms. Lanza finally understood what he was doing, she sought help. I too would have told that kid "Get off your lazy azz and get a job". That is what I think happened.

Adams play time easy life was over.

22 posted on 12/18/2012 4:27:07 PM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Check out Drudge’s main headline.


23 posted on 12/18/2012 4:33:52 PM PST by txmissy
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To: FreeReign

Looks like one of the side effects is weight gain (in addition to possibly feeling like hurting yourself or others).

Is the fat Adam Lanza anarchist Facebook someone put up earlier him?


24 posted on 12/18/2012 4:34:58 PM PST by Selene
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To: Ray76
I can only speculate as others have about the adults and children.

Possibly his mother discussed with Adam that she thought it was time for him to get on with his life, get a job and that she had discussed this with the adults at the school.

Now he is in a RAGE knowing that she discussed HIM with the outside world. The children may have been just a convenient defenseless afterthought in that rage, as he knew his mother loved those children. Jealousy and Hate?

25 posted on 12/18/2012 4:35:42 PM PST by annieokie
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To: ilovesarah2012
but found nothing at the residence to indicate he was taking medication

Seeing as he smashed his hard drives, he probably threw out his medication as well.

We'll learn the truth soon enough once the toxicology reports and medical records are released and then, I'll wager, he was taking something.

26 posted on 12/18/2012 4:39:45 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Alaska Wolf
Medications don't make a person a killer any more than does a gun.

Guns don't cause delusions, mania and paranoia. Some medications do including the one that he was on or withdrawing from.

27 posted on 12/18/2012 4:40:07 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: ilovesarah2012

I wish people would stop talking about this being time for “the healing to begin.” Are they high? The dead aren’t even buried, parents are still staggering around in shock, the dead children’s gifts are still under the tree, and someone says it’s time for the healing to begin?? They should get a riflebutt to the teeth for such a remark. It’ll be months and months before there’s any “healing.” These people are still dripping blood from their hearts, for pete’s sake.


28 posted on 12/18/2012 4:41:41 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: annieokie

Time will tell.

Whether he was medicated or not will be VERY interesting. There are conflicting claims. If it turns out that one of these “serotonin re-uptake inhibitor” drugs is involved it will be no surprise.


29 posted on 12/18/2012 4:43:11 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: txmissy
Yeah, that's been all over FR. Still only speculation for now, until we see some Court documents of her intent nothing is fact.

I do believe there was an Argument of some sort in that home. Most likely he knew his Playhouse and easy life was about over, one way or another.

I will withhold an opinion on if he had a mental illness for now. More in my opinion just a 20 year old Manipulative, lazy Brat.

Spare the Rod, spoil the child, (and call it autism, give them Ritilin.)

30 posted on 12/18/2012 4:47:52 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Alaska Wolf

“Medications don’t make a person a killer any more than does a gun”. http://www.ssristories.com/index.php


31 posted on 12/18/2012 4:49:26 PM PST by stickywillie (God Bless Lord Monckton)
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To: Ray76

At this point in all the speculation, nothing would suprise me. lol


32 posted on 12/18/2012 4:50:39 PM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

I hear you.

I’m very curious to learn exactly what “meds” he was on as well. The dispensing of medication to adolescents is troubling to me.

Either way, spoiled brat or whatever.....he was obviously not right. I’m curious to hear the “rest of the story”. Might take awhile, though.


33 posted on 12/18/2012 4:51:31 PM PST by txmissy
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To: txmissy
Police find no evidence Connecticut gunman was on medication """".......

Thread Headline: No evidence of medication.

20 years of spoiling a child by a loving and caring mother who can never be what he needed, a stern Father.

I am waiting to hear what his father has to say about Adam, then we may know something of truth.

34 posted on 12/18/2012 5:00:06 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Alaska Wolf
People can become subject to absolutely overwhelming rage that's directly caused by changed in their brain chemistry related to prescription psychiatric drugs, especially when they are in withdrawal from SSRI's.

It's worth looking at for 30 seconds. I urge you to click on this link and just take half a minute scanning the information here:

Index to SSRI

35 posted on 12/18/2012 5:02:13 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action.” - Auric Goldfinger)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I think a lot of this is driveby media over-reach. Trying to be the first on this and that, they out did themselves time and again by spouting idle speculation, second hand heresy and conjecture as fact.

This happens during every crisis, tragedy, attack, etc.

Consider 9/11 (Capitol blown up, White house hit), Katrina (people in Superdome eating each other), Aurora (must be TEA partier), etc.

NONE of it was fact. We had to wait.

There’s usually about 10 minutes of real news in a 24 hour period, but then they have to find something to fill the airwaves with for another 23 hours and 50 minutes.

When stuff like this happnes, they have an hours worth of real news, but still 23 hours of talk-talk-talk.


36 posted on 12/18/2012 5:03:39 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: annieokie
Police find no evidence Connecticut gunman was on medication """"....... Thread Headline: No evidence of medication.

It already has been reported that the kid was given Fanopt. Why are you repeating the gun grabbing Ruppert Murdoch's, Fox's misleading headline.

37 posted on 12/18/2012 5:04:58 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: annieokie

Way more to this than just a spoiled brat, this guy systematically executed one 6 year old after another


38 posted on 12/18/2012 5:05:33 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: annieokie

I did not mean to come off snarky to you. I apologize.
I believe one of the theories that is out there now,(who knows?), is that mother was going to committ Adam to the hospital.

I don’t think he was “spoiled”, I think he was very seriously mentally ill and unfortunately we have severe limitations on treating the very mentally ill. Its not an easy thing. We pay a high price for freedom. I am sure that this poor mother tried everything she could and it wasn’t easy for her. And of course, dad took off.

Having said that, I am for having either a trained in guns teacher armed or a police officer in the schools.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 5:05:44 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: FreeReign
It happens to be the Headline of this Thread.

Back at ya: "It already has been reported that the kid was given Fanopt"

Really, must not have been to loudly. What is Fanopt anyway?

40 posted on 12/18/2012 5:09:53 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Alaska Wolf

Then why do the drug ads warn about suicidal thoughts can be a side effect of these psychotrophic drugs?


41 posted on 12/18/2012 5:12:26 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Aspergers is not going to make him likely to kill—not at all.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 5:15:06 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: annieokie
It happens to be the Headline of this Thread. Back at ya: "It already has been reported that the kid was given Fanopt" Really, must not have been to loudly. What is Fanopt anyway?

Sorry abut the misspelling (and the slightly terse post). Anyway the correct spelling is Fanapt. Please see link.

Fanapt

43 posted on 12/18/2012 5:15:23 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
You don't have to apoligize. We are just tossing out theories for now.

""""" I am sure that this poor mother tried everything she could and it wasn’t easy for her. And of course, dad took off."""".......

I agree, I am sure she was at her wit's end. Dad may have had another opinion on what was needed.

I'm sure he had some mental issues, just not sold on all that has been discussed on FR or the Media.

I would like to hear what the father has to tell us.

44 posted on 12/18/2012 5:16:37 PM PST by annieokie
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To: RC one

last time I was a professional driver and I was hit by a drunk driver they made me pee in a cup then they wanted a hair sample for “further testing” (they being the company and insurance company)

The drunk plowed in to the back of my PARKED truck while I was in the sleeper..

They better have tested his blood!


45 posted on 12/18/2012 5:17:12 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: stickywillie

Yikes, I wouldn’t be surprised.


46 posted on 12/18/2012 5:24:37 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: annieokie
I am very prejudiced against the psychiatric profession and I admit it up front. I believe (I am not an expert and I've never played one on TV) that the common denominator in all these killings is the drugs.

I'll believe that until someone gives me solid evidence I'm wrong.

47 posted on 12/18/2012 5:29:20 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: FreeReign
Well this is a checkmate: He was on Meds, he wasn't on Meds.

Oh what to believe? I speculate that too many in the Media are speculating. They all want the Pulitzer Prize Scoop, and secure it by any means necessary. Heck make it up if need be, the masses will believe anything. lol

Mark my words, tomorrow we will all hear a completely different take on this and we will all be back here picking it apart. rofl.

Personally I think FOX gets their analysis right here in FR.,

48 posted on 12/18/2012 5:29:32 PM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

And the brother.


49 posted on 12/18/2012 5:29:51 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I am very prejudiced against the psychiatric profession and I admit it up front""""""""......

You too? nothing to be ashamed of, they are NUTS themselves.

Well maybe not really nuts as we think it. They just have a Degree that says they have the POWER to judge you insane, and don't you forget it. Time up, see ya next week, (cha ching). You do know it is not in their best interest to ever cure anyone?

50 posted on 12/18/2012 5:39:24 PM PST by annieokie
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