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Still the BEST EVER explanation of the 2nd Amendment
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | May 1, 2008 | Rick Lynch

Posted on 12/21/2012 9:32:50 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains

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21 posted on 12/21/2012 11:01:21 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: alloysteel
The expression "right to keep and bear arms" is ancient ~ they didn't invent it just for our Constitution.

This is what made a noble different from a commoner ~ a nobleman had a "right to keep and bear arms". A town, in fact, might be granted part of the right ~ so many swords, so many cannon, warhorses, etc.

This right also carries with it the news that someone so honored can go to the public courts and bring suit against someone else and ask that the armed might of the government be brought into a dispute!

This was a real problem for commoners and Jews throughout Europe for centuries ~ unless they could settle a dispute privately, they had no access to the courts.

On the other hand, the courts had access to them!

I think one of the Justices limited his construction of the 'bear arms' part of the expression to just carrying around a weapon. Actually, he really missed the boat on that one ~ and with him a judge, and before that a lawyer, it tells me of the sad state of teaching history in our nation's universities!

22 posted on 12/21/2012 11:12:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Doctor 2Brains

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23 posted on 12/21/2012 11:41:37 AM PST by BreezyDog (Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Well we could fall into their failed logic trap and argue all day long what a Militia or Well Regulated Militia means and it would not change a thing. The way the sentence is structured, in English, means we have a right to keep and bear arms”

What these self proclaimed enlightened ignoramuses never dare expose is that the first part of the statement never contradicts the second part. In fact the 2nd part could stand alone and the meaning would be exactly the same.

Even if the 2nd Amendment read: “Guns are very dangerous to any government, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed” would still mean the US Constitution is simply restating our rights as citizens to be armed.

There is nothing which contradicts or limits, “shall not be infringed” yet we have allowed the most dishonest people on the planet, lawyers and politicians, to infringe on those rights and IMO we have allowed them to invalidate the vast majority of the Constitution.

Anyone but me think all the 5-4 decisions from the less than Supreme Court are simply political crap with no grounding in the Constitution? Tell me how 9 brilliant Constitutional scholars could possibly spew forth constant 5-4 decisions unless they are traitors to the Constitution hiding behind black robes.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 11:46:02 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: tpmintx
Step 4: We know who you are and where you are. We're coming to get them now.

Meet my weapons friend.

25 posted on 12/21/2012 11:46:14 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: tpmintx
Step 4: We know who you are and where you are. We're coming to get them now.

Meet my weapons friend.

26 posted on 12/21/2012 11:48:47 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

The wording of the Second isn’t the issue right now. (It is for us, but we’re on the defensive and mapping out our trenches!)

Progressives are HOWLING for a complete disarmament of the people. That will never happen, of course, but it doesn’t stop them from howling. Obummer loves to hear their howls, which does not work to our advantage.

It’s going to be a rough couple of months. We all know they’re going to try and pass some stupid and ineffective new gun laws, which we of course will fight tooth and nail.

Just hang tough, folks. They might jam through another pointless ban on “assault weapons” but it won’t change a thing. Just be ready to howl even louder if they try for the whole enchilada, which Obummer just might.

We know what the Second means. They need to know too.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 12:23:33 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. No exceptions.)
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the MEME of the MSM is is “GUN BANS WORK”, it is just not far enough or detailed emough.

They start with the assumption that the last would have worked BUT FOR....

The low information voters will not see this deception. (how often do you beat your wife? compound trick)

The left is just going by the “we need magic words.”


28 posted on 12/21/2012 12:59:04 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SandRat

Certainly this high-tech weapons system could not have been envisioned by the framers. There is no way they meant for normal citizens to have such a destructive weapon in their possession. </sarc>


29 posted on 12/21/2012 1:34:10 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the 2nd amendment applies to individuals. Any discussion of militias is redundant.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 1:38:20 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: tpmintx
That bolt, from that bow, was the first Armor piercing weapon, and still will go through a police vest.
31 posted on 12/21/2012 3:09:43 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: tpmintx
That's what they used in the middle ages, dates mid 1500's.
32 posted on 12/21/2012 3:22:21 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: tpmintx
Back in the 1400s Joan of Arc figured out that the best way to combat cannon was to fire cannon at cannon. They were using them then to knock holes in city walls during sieges ~ which made city walls totally obsolete!

That was pretty basic high tech, but the Founders knew about just how powerful the earliest firearms technology had been ~ and they thought it was perfectly acceptable for private individuals to own the very best!

33 posted on 12/21/2012 6:43:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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That's what they used in the middle ages, dates mid 1500's.

You all missed my tag.

MOLON LABE!

34 posted on 12/21/2012 9:18:04 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: SandRat; muawiyah
That's what they used in the middle ages, dates mid 1500's.

You all missed my </sarc> tag.

MOLON LABE!

35 posted on 12/21/2012 9:18:44 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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