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Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control
Sott Net ^ | Tue, 18 Dec 2012 | Niall Bradley

Posted on 12/21/2012 12:27:24 PM PST by gitmo

The massacre of 20 children and 7 adults at the Sandy Hook elementary school last Friday was one more in a long line of atrocious mass murders committed in the USA. By now, four days later, an official version of events has more or less solidified to explain the chain of events. The familiar 'lone gunman' narrative has once more stoked the hot-button issue of gun control and left the general population as clueless as ever as to why people suddenly 'go postal' and target the most vulnerable members of society.

Teddy bears left at a memorial for the child victims of the Sandy Hook massacre

On closer inspection, however, there is clearly more to many of these mass shootings than meets the eye. Very often the earliest reports present information that directly contradicts key foundations of the final 'official' analysis of events. Granted, confusion is natural when a story breaks, but some of the initial reports conflict so completely with the lone gunman narrative that I'm going to compile them here and then try to put this tragedy in a more objective context. In his speech at the Sandy Hook Interfaith Prayer Vigil in Newtown, Connecticut on Sunday night, President Obama quoted the following biblical passage:

"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."

~ 2 Corinthians 4:18

The traumatised Newtown community deserves the facts without the spin. Everyone touched by this brutal event deserves to know what really happened, so let's fix our eyes on what remains unseen...

A 20-year-old 'tech geek' named Adam Lanza is supposed to have snapped early last Friday, December 14th, shot dead his mother Nancy Lanza, loaded her car up with her guns and ammo, then driven it across town to his former school, the Sandy Hook Elementary School, shot dead 27 people in two classrooms and an adjoining hallway, then turned one of his guns on himself.

That's how most will now remember the shooting, but is that actually what happened?

All the child victims were first-graders between the ages of 6 and 7. If there's any saving grace to be found in this event, it's that it was all over within minutes. Police were reportedly on the scene "instantaneously" and by then the shooting had ended. Listed among the slain school teachers and administrative staff was the school principal, 47-year-old Dawn Hochsprung. Right here we encounter our first problem:

The Newtown Bee

December 14, 2012

How could the principal have survived to give this statement to local press describing what happened ...

Besides anonymous 'law enforcement officials' telling the media that Adam Lanza was a former pupil at the school, they also said his mother was currently a teacher there, that she was found among the dead and that her son had specifically sought out her classroom first. But when it emerged that teaching staff at the school had never heard of a Nancy Lanza, it was suggested that she was a substitute teacher whose name therefore mightn't appear on staff lists.

But this claim too has disappeared down the memory hole because it's now known that neither Nancy nor her son had any connection with the school whatsoever. Adam Lanza was in fact home-schooled. Nancy Lanza has since been painted as a "survivalist" who loved firearms, taught her sons how to shoot and was "stockpiling" because she was "worried about economic collapse."

Daily Mail, UK

December 16, 2012

Last night it also emerged Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world.

Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home 'into a fortress'. She added: 'Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense.

'She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.'

It's not difficult to see that their efforts to insinuate that Nancy Lanza was somehow responsible for this massacre by being an irresponsible mother also serve to rile the large contingent of gun owners in the country, particularly the far right who see a conspiracy on the government's part to "take back our guns." More on that later, but for now I just want to note that all of the Lanza family members seemed to live more or less normal middle-class lives. Yes, the parents were divorced but it was apparently amicable and both put their own needs second to those of their children (and anyway, divorce in the US these days is decidedly 'normal middle class').

Despite "family insiders" claiming that he was a "deeply disturbed kid", Adam Lanza, like so many other alleged 'lone(r) gunmen' before him, does not fit the profile of a mass-murdering maniac. His 24-year-old brother, Ryan Lanza, said he hadn't seen his brother since 2010. This fact brings into question Ryan's claim that his younger brother may have had his identity card on his person at the school shooting. Although perhaps the question that needs to be asked here is, why would a person bother to carry identification with them after going to the trouble of dressing up in a and going on a killing spree ...

The live emergency services audio feed from the scene reveals some interesting observations from first responders that have been completely overlooked by the mainstream media. Note that the unedited version lasts over two hours, so the abridged version I'm going to quote from has a compressed sequence of events that are not in real time. In this abridged version, we hear at 1.38' a report that gunfire is still being heard, even though the shooting was supposed to have ended by the time police arrived. The next report at 2.35' says that the shooting has stopped and the school is "in lockdown". At 3.23', the police relay a teacher's report that she saw "two shadows running past the gym" [not "two shooters", as we previously reported on SOTT.net]. This is followed by another officer on the scene who says, "Yeh, we got 'em, they're coming at me! ... [inaudible] ... Coming up the driveway real slowly!" That same officer at 5.40' says he has them "proned out", which presumably means he has apprehended them and they are laid out on the ground, before another officer comes on to say, "be aware that we do have a second [inaudible] ..."

Later on, at 19.10', an officer who sounds out of breath, like he's just given chase, reports what I think sounds like "these guys" followed certainly by "multiple weapons, including long rifles and shotgun". If these were found so early on, why were they not included in the initial press reports which stated that three firearms had been found - the above mentioned Glock, Sig Sauer and Bushmaster AR-15 rifle? Further conflicting, and possibly planted evidence was thrown into the mix by 'law enforcement officials' when they published video footage of a long weapon being retrieved from the trunk of a car. Look closely and you'll see that it's a shotgun, not a rifle. In addition, this 'discovery' was made late in the day (it's dark outside), while the Bushmaster rifle was first reported found in the trunk of a car much earlier in the day.

Besides the above two suspects "proned out" in front of the school, another suspected gunman was apprehended after he gave chase, this time in the woods next to the school:

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Video here

The police are clearly chasing someone whom they appear to apprehend in the middle of the woods next to the school, a fact confirmed by several eyewitnesses:

This fleeing suspect, wearing camouflage gear, a bulletproof vest and armed with four guns, has since disappeared from media coverage. Who was this person and how did he know what "it" was when he protested that "I didn't do it"?

Perhaps most astonishingly, this suspect arrested in the woods was named in an Associated Press report as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza. The original report has long since vanished of course, but you can see it referenced here. This was despite the fact that Ryan had already been named as the deceased suspect inside the school, lying next to two handguns.

Ryan Lanza was actually at work in Hoboken, New Jersey, that morning when his name and photo began circulating in the media. And so, for most of Friday, the 'lone shooter' was erroneously reported as "Ryan Lanza, confirmed dead." At the same time, we were being told that Ryan's girlfriend and a room-mate were reported missing, also from Hoboken, New Jersey.

So this isn't just a case of mistaken identity, as later claimed when it was suggested that Adam had a piece of identification belonging to his brother on his person. Not one, but BOTH Lanza brothers were being placed by 'law enforcement officials' at the scene of the shooting. It could be that Ryan's quick reflexes to leave his workplace to get on a bus to go back to his apartment while protesting innocence via his Facebook page may have saved his life.

Now remember, all of this confusion somehow resulted from a single guy going into a school and shooting children and teachers and then shooting himself, all within three minutes. Surely it should have been fairly easy to rapidly and concretely identify the details of such a crime and the scene.

What it's starting to look like is that the Lanzas were framed for this mass shooting in advance. Long before any suspects were named, and even as we were being told that Nancy Lanza was among the dead at the school, we were told that police were investigating a murder in ... Hoboken, New Jersey, where a body had been found at the home of ... Ryan Lanza! An older "confirmed" version of events had RYAN, not Adam, travelling to Hoboken that morning to murder his father before going to the school in Newtown, Connecticut. Other variants had Ryan OR Adam going to both their divorced parents' homes and killing them before going to the school.

The narrative has now settled on the younger brother killing his mother in Newtown then going to the school. So what about the rest of it? Do we just put it down to 'keen' journalism that was having a field day last Friday as media outlets sought to bring us the latest 'breaking news'? Confusion and 'Chinese whispers' undoubtedly play a part in the early stages of national media events, but I think back to those news anchors reading scripts about Osama Bin Laden within minutes of the first plane being hit on 9/11 and I think, 'Wait a minute!' All these misleading reports had to have been issued by someone or some people "confirming" to Associated Press and other media outlets that the Ryans's father had been murdered [he wasn't even aware that the shooting at the school had taken place until journalists turned up on his doorstep], or that Ryan's girlfriend had gone missing from Hoboken, or that either Ryan or Adam were pulled out of the adjacent woods in handcuffs yelling "I DIDN'T DO IT" to assembled parents. These aren't just 'little details' that can be confused for other details, these are detailed narratives. So how, or why, would any member of the press come up with such details? They strike me as a set of alternative scenarios that might have found their way into the official narrative had facts on the ground turned out differently.

Watch this snippet of State Police Lt. Paul Vance at the press conference he gave the day after the shootings. His answer is as bizarre as it is revealing. When asked whether Nancy Lanza had any connection with the school, he replied defensively about something that is both unrelated and arguably the most significant fact that completely undermines the official narrative: the arrest of a second gunman in the woods:

Most of the initial mainstream media reports have since been rewritten to fit 'new' facts proclaimed by 'law enforcement officials'. Here's an example from Business Insider. The following excerpts are the opening paragraphs from the 'same' article, one earlier original version, followed by the :

The massacre [...] was reportedly perpetrated with a .233 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol.

The Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of the shooter's car. The Sig Sauer and Glock pistols were the only weapons used in the shooting, according to CBS. Now the question is what kind of magazine would allow a shooter to fire "100" rounds in such a short period.

Indeed, I was wondering the same thing. How could two pistols do so much damage? The report was updated as follows:

The massacre in Connecticut that's taken the lives of at least 26 people was reportedly perpetrated with a .223 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol, according to NBC:

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.

Altogether, though, it doesn't matter what type of weapon the shooter used. The bottom line is that it was likely a magazine fed, semi-automatic, with enough rounds to shoot "100 shots" in a matter of minutes, as quoted in USA Today.

What actually happened may not matter to some, but surely a journalist's role is to at least try to find out?

This Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that "Only the rifle was used on the victims", a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state's chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had "three to 11 wounds apiece". He also said that the 'gunman' used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the 'shooter' was able to reload so quickly because he had "taped two magazines together." Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.

So all the victims' wounds were the result of rifle-fire, specifically from "the rifle", the one we were told in early reports was found in the trunk of a car in the parking lot! This is simply not credible.

The three guns Adam Lanza is supposed to have brought to the school with him. The rifle was left in the trunk, leaving him just the two handguns to let off "hundreds of rounds"... firing .233 caliber bullets that belonged to the rifle... which was left in the car

Remember that only "the rifle" was used on all the victims. If only this rifle was used, and if we try to make this claim fit into the (admittedly fluid) official version of events, then the alleged lone gunman would have had to leave the school, place the rifle back in his trunk, then return inside the school and shoot himself. No one reported any such maneuver on the part of any gunman or gunmen. What we do have, however, is live emergency services radio feed in which we hear that two men have been apprehended and are "proned out" AND live video footage supported by eyewitness testimony showing what appears to be a THIRD man being arrested by police in the woods.

We can see how the authorities' hands are tied because they need to fit all the facts into the usual 'lone gunman' narrative. For that, there can only be ONE rifle and a couple of handguns. The problem is that they have already claimed to find that solitary Bushmaster rifle in the trunk of a car in the school parking lot, so the earliest police reports of a cache of long arms being found inside the school will no longer fit with the lone gunman narrative, especially as they're now saying that he had already opened fire as he burst into the school.

Could "scrawny" 20-year-old Adam Lanza have stormed the school, solo Rambo-style, while carrying "multiple long arms, including rifles and shotguns"? Only one person was wounded. Everyone else who was shot was killed. How could Adam Lanza achieve such deadly accuracy, in such a short length of recorded time?

Initial reports put the beginning of the shooting in the school administrators' office, where someone, reportedly the school principal, had a row with the gunman(men). We know this because someone supposedly turned on the school intercom system, alerting the teaching staff to the loud swearing and commotion in the principal's office and probably saving many more children from being gunned down as teachers took measures to hide the children in closets.

One brave teacher, Kaitlin Roig, bundled a bunch of children into a bathroom and locked the door. What's interesting about her testimony to ABC News is that when police arrived and asked her to open the door, she refused, saying that "if they were really cops, they'd know where to find keys to open the door." In addition, she requested that they slide their badges under the door.

Now, this is generally a smart thing to do in any and all interactions with the police, especially in the U.S. But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point that multiple perpetrators were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed or the way they behaved upon entering the building. It also reminds us just how narrow the time window of the actual shooting was. The shooting appears to have barely ended when men knocked on that bathroom door and told Ms. Roig they were police.

There are also conflicting reports about how the gunmen entered the building. We were told initially that they came in through the main front entrance and proceeded straight to the administrators'/principal's offices. But Sandy Hook elementary school has a security system with a video monitor, which allows staff to screen visitors before buzzing them in. A "masked gunman dressed in black tactical combat gear" from head to toe would kinda raise red flags, don't you think?

Another an 'in memoriam' Facebook page created in her name four days before the shooting.

Regarding this alleged 'LIBOR scandal' connection between this shooting and the Aurora theater shooting, there is as yet zero evidence to support the claim that either father of Lanza or Holmes were going to testify to anyone about anything, so for now this must remain just another rumor. I rather think that this is being spread to create the impression of a direct link that can be easily refuted, as in a straw man argument. The obvious and direct link staring everyone in the face is that the U.S. government's accounts of these events are hocus-pocus. The glaring connection between these two shootings, the Sikh Temple shooting and the Fort Hood shooting is that multiple gunmen were reported at the time by eyewitnesses, but they are now all officially claimed to have been carried out by 'lone gunmen'. This logically tells us that the real perpetrators are being protected with cover stories of what really happened because if the truth were known, some section of the U.S. government would be implicated.

Wade Michael Page, the 'lone gunman' in the Sikh Temple shooting in Wisconsin in August this year, was a highly decorated U.S. army psychological operations specialist, according to the Pentagon. But what happened to the three other gunmen seen by witnesses? It can't surely be coincidence that Wade was (former?) military psy-ops. The thought has crossed my mind more than once during the aftermath of the Connecticut shooting. Others too have suggested this was a 'false-flag' event, or that Lanza was some sort of Manchurian Candidate.

But maybe there's a simpler explanation (albeit more outrageous) than that? Was that really Adam Lanza they found inside the school? Do we even know for a fact that one of the gunmen was found dead inside the school? What we have instead are reports of two or three masked gunmen, apparently all dressed similarly in black tactical gear from head to toe, being wilfully forgotten about at best, or protected by the state at worst. Based on the authorities' persistent but futile efforts to connect the Lanzas to this school, the multiple eyewitness reports of two shooters, the Connecticut State Medical Examiner's report that all the victims were riddled with bullets from a rifle that we're simultaneously being asked to believe was in the trunk of a car the whole time, similar reports of multiple shooters in previous mass shootings in recent years and the media focusing the emotional outcry onto the hot-button topic of gun control ... I'm left wondering if this was actually the work of some highly trained professional hit team?

Was the massacre at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, a psy-op, using what amounts to a 'death squad' and a carefully planned mission to terrorise people on behalf of the government, in combination with perception management to shape the narrative and vector the emotional fallout?

Gun control isn't the issue here. The US government would long since have taken measures, quietly, to limit the supply of weapons, the 2nd Amendment of the constitution be damned (it's "just a goddamned piece of paper", remember?), if it was really concerned with limiting civilian access to weapons.

The psychopaths in power have absolutely no compunction about using state terrorism, in this case organising the deliberate massacre of innocent children, to control people. In effect, this is little different from the U.S. government calls counter-insurgency or counter-terrorism in foreign countries, where it attacks innocent civilians to create the impression that they were killed by 'communists', 'terrorists', 'insurgents' or 'militants', with the aim of generating public support for the illusion that the common people need a strong, ruthless government to protect them from the 'evil-doers'. When the common people buy into this manipulation, the end result, as history shows repeatedly, is an overt and brutal police state.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; guncontrol; sandyhook; sandyhookaccount; sandyhookconspiracy

1 posted on 12/21/2012 12:27:30 PM PST by gitmo
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To: gitmo

Is it possible we’re being deceived again, like Fast and Furious?

They’ve done it once.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 12:30:24 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: gitmo

bfl


3 posted on 12/21/2012 12:34:45 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: gitmo
>"why people suddenly 'go postal'"

Anti mudslime films?.....

4 posted on 12/21/2012 12:36:14 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: gitmo
>>>Is it possible we’re being deceived again, like Fast and Furious?

Explain. In order for this to be a conspiracy, you have to 1) Make up the deaths of 20 kids...or 2) Get someone willing to die for this cause...or 3) Pick a target...drug him...and brain-wash him into doing this.

I find all three rather implausible. What is your idea?

5 posted on 12/21/2012 12:39:41 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: gitmo
Something stinks...along with the nanny & the 2 kids.
6 posted on 12/21/2012 12:42:16 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: gitmo

The reporting on this story has been phenomenally sloppy and unprofessional. Deducing a conspiracy from media incompetence is going a bit too far for my tastes.

7 posted on 12/21/2012 12:43:41 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: gitmo

Confused and contradictory reporting during and in the immediate aftermath of an event does not mean there is a conspiracy.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 12:45:33 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: gitmo

Didn’t McVeigh and company deny their involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing and Terry Nichols was believed to be covering for a third person in the whole thing? That happened under Clinton.

The veracity of this story requires a very small suspension of disbelief. I believe it is entirely in the realm of possibilities that this whole thing was orchestrated, and I believe in the coming weeks, as the Obama administration tries to pass law through traditional methods and fails, we will see a growing frustration and boldness on the part of this Marxist faggot to enact more gun control measures through EO.

Folks, this may be the time for us to fight. It may be very close to the time when our Founding either means something or it doesn’t. If it comes out that Obama ordered this hit to further a political agenda, the bloom is completely off the rose. The American public, left and right, will call for his head on a platter, and I believe there are over 100 million people in this country who would be willing to oblige.

The French overthrew the aristocracy in a bloody coup during the French Revolution. America might be next.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 12:47:07 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: gitmo

What’s out of control is our sloppy news reporting and people making up crap to fill in the hours of news talk. Of course your going to find “conspiracies” when every “newscaster” just makes up stuff.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 12:50:46 PM PST by xenob
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To: gitmo

What’s out of control is our sloppy news reporting and people making up crap to fill in the hours of news talk. Of course your going to find “conspiracies” when every “newscaster” just makes up stuff.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 12:50:59 PM PST by xenob
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To: gitmo

What’s out of control is our sloppy news reporting and people making up crap to fill in the hours of news talk. Of course your going to find “conspiracies” when every “newscaster” just makes up stuff.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 12:51:08 PM PST by xenob
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To: gitmo

What’s out of control is our sloppy news reporting and people making up crap to fill in the hours of news talk. Of course your going to find “conspiracies” when every “newscaster” just makes up stuff.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 12:51:14 PM PST by xenob
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To: gitmo

There’s a simple explanation for all of the conflicting “facts”. The Media reported them.

We may never know the truth because ordinary citizens do not have access to the police reports and Medical Examiner reports. Who do we depend on for what’s in these reports?-—The media.

Just look back at how the media reported on the Martin case in Florida, a fluster cluck if there ever was one and it continues to this day.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 12:51:20 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: xenob

Opps sorry for the multiples! I think the FR Post button is also a conspiracy.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 12:52:28 PM PST by xenob
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To: rawcatslyentist

bttt


16 posted on 12/21/2012 1:02:31 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: bayouranger

Agreed!!!


17 posted on 12/21/2012 1:03:12 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: gitmo

bookmark


18 posted on 12/21/2012 1:09:42 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: NELSON111
#3.

They have the most mild detergents nowadays, in fact you're soaking in it right now.

19 posted on 12/21/2012 1:09:42 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rarestia

Local newspapers after Oklahoma City printed pictures of 2 middle eastern men being sought by the FBI.

Any reference to these 2 later completely disappeared.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 1:11:18 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: All

do we really need these tinfoil hat stories?

this junk appears every major “crisis” in order to make FR look silly. We do not need this.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 1:16:25 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bayouranger

I don’t know about Lanza; but, Holmes did not have a bullet proof vest. It was initially reported as body armor...but it was really a survival vest (a vest with alot of mesh pockets to hold stuff).

I also saw a report debunking the Libor connection with Lanza’s father.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 1:17:20 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Graybeard58
There’s a simple explanation for all of the conflicting “facts”. The Media reported them.

While generally true, the radio report of the rifle being found in the trunk is not the enemedia's fault. According to this, someone reported on a police radio that they'd recovered a rifle from the trunk of his car. I haven't had time to listen to it, so I can't say one way or another.

However, the government is absolutely capable of murdering 20 kids to further its aims. Absolutely, and without a doubt. They'll even do it on live TV (Waco) and noone does a damn thing about it.

23 posted on 12/21/2012 1:21:15 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Is the CIA also putting fluoride in Miller Beer to sap our precious bodily fluids?


24 posted on 12/21/2012 1:22:55 PM PST by caldera599
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To: gitmo

Very interesting summary of events. Thanks for the info.

While I don’t believe “THe Government” had anything to do with the shootings, I do believe the media and the government have spun this to further a political, and in their minds, social agenda. Gun control. Just like “fast and furious”

But, I am not going to believe that Obama sent some black op’s into an elementary school to kill 6 year olds.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 1:25:54 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: lacrew

I keep trying to find the photo of Holmes side-by-side where you can clearly see the difference b/t the two individuals & then the following day the FBI said they would make him testify w/ a mask on....ok...sure.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 1:30:15 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: gitmo

Lousy seat-of-your-pants reporting does not a conspiracy make.

SnakeDoc

27 posted on 12/21/2012 1:39:24 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: gitmo

“Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that “Only the rifle was used on the victims”, a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state’s chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had “three to 11 wounds apiece”. He also said that the ‘gunman’ used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the ‘shooter’ was able to reload so quickly because he had “taped two magazines together.” Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.”

How would the medical examiner deduce from autopsies that a military style rifle was used and had magazines taped together? And still no word on what calibre weapon was used.

If the .233(sic) caused the wounds that killed the kids then I believe that would be the first thing that would come out. Cause it would fit the “assault weapons” spin. But the fact that, as far as I know, no info on what bullets were used in the murders tells me that the .223 was not the murder weapon.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 1:47:13 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: bayouranger

It appears the police were also looking for a “second shooter” in the Gabby Giffords shooting.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 1:56:24 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

***Local newspapers after Oklahoma City printed pictures of 2 middle eastern men being sought by the FBI.***

And on that morning ABC news said to be on the lookout for six men with swarthy complexions, of Mid east extraction,dressed in blue running suits fleeing the scene.

I heard that report.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 1:59:22 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: gitmo
Sandy Hook was an inside job? /s
31 posted on 12/21/2012 2:02:47 PM PST by vigilante2 (Re-elect nobody)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yeah..it was covered up so poorly that it’s insulting to discuss. The whole “the bomb squad is overwhelmed” excuse was just a ruse. Look at Judge Roll & what he did 72 hrs prior to the event & then the bile starts to form.

The school shooting was done by 3 people and it seemed like a reverse style ambush that went wrong...

Heard the police radio traffic of it ongoing.

They caught 2 people.

1 on camera & 1 off.

BUT...whatever. What’s on blahTV tonight?


32 posted on 12/21/2012 2:47:59 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: gitmo

Maybe Lanza did it because he was upset over a youtube video....


33 posted on 12/21/2012 2:58:46 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: gitmo

This would not surprise me at all that this was actually cooked up by the left so as to gain traction on gun control.


34 posted on 12/21/2012 3:08:39 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: gitmo

Bookmarked


35 posted on 12/21/2012 4:11:15 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: dirtymac

Nothing would surprise me and I wouldn’t put anything past Obama. Remember - one of his friends is Bill Ayers. He wanted to kill rich people. He advised others to kill rich people.

And what about the reports of Lanza wearing a mask? What ever happened to that report? And who was the “guy in the woods” who allegedly was shouting “I didn’t do it”?

So many questions. I don’t believe we will ever know the truth.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 4:14:09 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SnakeDoctor

” Lousy seat-of-your-pants reporting does not a conspiracy make.

I don’t think you can chalk this up to “seat-of-your-pants reporting” SnakeDoc. What was reported initially was others were in custody. That’s either a lie or not a lie...


37 posted on 12/21/2012 4:18:11 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: gitmo

For later.


38 posted on 12/21/2012 4:22:54 PM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: gitmo

Gun control is about elitist pigs stating that they need guns to protect their commie asses, while you don’t need the protection of guns because your life and the life of your children have no value.

I hate these commies.


39 posted on 12/21/2012 4:28:46 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: gitmo

4 am bump ...


40 posted on 12/22/2012 1:10:26 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

200+ witnesses saw TWA 800 shot down - you’d think the Media would be hard pressed to ignore all that, but they did and became the mouthpiece of the Clinton liars.

The Sikh temple in Milwaukee was attacked and witnesses said there were multiple people shooting. Same with the Aurora slaughter.

If anyone believes that Obama and his pals could care less whether 20 white children were massacred or 300 black children in Chicago are shot in the streets, you are seriously blind.

It wasn’t the Media screwing around with the public when this first went down - it was the cops. Why? Have you seen a single photo of the alleged murderer in his death repose? This stinks to high heaven and you don’t need a tinfoil hat to believe that.


41 posted on 12/22/2012 6:25:49 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

We haven’t seen squat since the Feds took over. I’m still waiting to see the school’s security video. Something is fishy there.


42 posted on 12/22/2012 7:41:47 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

Agreed - we are being royally played...again.


43 posted on 12/22/2012 7:48:15 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: zeugma

I saw with my own eyes an aerial shot of a rifle being pulled from a trunk by what appeared to be a law enforcement individual. That’s why I believed later reports that handguns alone had been used.


44 posted on 12/26/2012 6:01:38 PM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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