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To: wintertime

Would the Catholic Church school system meet the criteria for being “imbued with a specific denomination’s religious worldview”? If so, is that where you would send your children, or were you opposed to a specific denomination’s worldview”?

I don’t believe there is a problem with an education that is beyond a specific denomination.

The only way to avoid any non-neutrality in the content of what children are taught is to have the children taught by robots. You probably support parents doing the teaching, but that is only acceptable if we assume that the parents have the perfect knowledge of true religion. Otherwise, you have muslim parents teaching their faith to children, which hardly seems superior to the agnostic teachings of a typical public school.


56 posted on 12/23/2012 11:49:12 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I don’t believe there is a problem with an education that is beyond a specific denomination.

It is the religiously oriented education that is going "beyond" and the secular and godless education that is constricted and narrow.

The only way to avoid any non-neutrality in the content of what children are taught is to have the children taught by robots.

Exactly! It is impossible to have a politically, culturally, and religiously neutral education. The content of an education can NOT be neutral in content or consequences. It is for this reason that government should get out of the K-12 education business because by engaging in education government will establish the political, cultural, and religious worldview of the most political active and trash the freedom of conscience of the less powerful.

Since we now have plenty of experience with vouchers, tax credits, and privately owned charters there is no reason to delay beginning the process of complete privatization. ( Except to preserve the pay checks and pensions of the government school defenders who frequent these threads.)

ou probably support parents doing the teaching, but that is only acceptable if we assume that the parents have the perfect knowledge of true religion.

Show me the studies that institutional schools teach anything. Please do this. No educator, in the many years I have been posting on the Internet, has ever provided me with these studies. It is just **assumed** that institutional schools are effective and NO measure of the considerable pre-school work, home support of the parents, hard work of the child in the home, and private tutoring has ever been done. It is interesting that when a school proudly proclaims itself to be a "good" school, it never cites how many students are attending private tutoring.

My conclusion: If you know of an academically successful child, whether institutionalized or home educated, that child has had significant parental "homeschooling" ( sometimes called, "afterschooling"). It is my observation that there is absolutely NO difference in the home study habits, the amount of time spent studying in the home, and parental input between academically successful institutionalized children and successful homeschoolers. I doubt any educator will have the curiosity to look into it.

but that is only acceptable if we assume that the parents have the perfect knowledge of true religion

If you can find a perfect human with perfect knowledge either inside or outside institutionalized schooling please let us know. Take a video. Post it on Youtube. Personally, I only expect to see this happen in the Second Coming.

Otherwise, you have muslim parents teaching their faith to children, which hardly seems superior to the agnostic teachings of a typical public school.

Gee! It used to be witches that government school defenders used to uphold those freedom of conscience abominations that are misnamed "public" schools. Now, the scary bogeyman is.... (Ooh!) ...MUSLIMS!)

Islam is an immigration problem. Atheistic government schools are NOT the answer to Islam. The Germans, French, and English experience confirms this. Restrict the ingress of Muslims and there will be far less of a Muslim problem.

As for religion and Islam, the best defense against it is to have citizens who are firm in their faith and can solidly defend their faith intellectually and spiritually. They will never get this in an atheistic government school. On the contrary, they will be taught to think godlessly. They must do this just to cooperate in the classroom and with the godless curriculum.

57 posted on 12/23/2012 1:04:53 PM PST by wintertime
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Would the Catholic Church school system meet the criteria for being “imbued with a specific denomination’s religious worldview”? If so, is that where you would send your children, or were you opposed to a specific denomination’s worldview”?

What possible relevance does my specific faith have to do with our nation's abominable system of freedom of conscience trashing government schools? Gee! The **only** people I know that make political discussions personal are the Marxist/liberals. Government teachers are the worst offenders. No conservative that I have ever met does this.

58 posted on 12/23/2012 1:16:22 PM PST by wintertime
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