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Obama proposes Social Security cuts
World Socialist Web Site ^ | 12/20/12 | Patrick Martin

Posted on 12/22/2012 7:09:16 AM PST by Libloather

Obama proposes Social Security cuts
Patrick Martin
20 December 2012

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The White House decision to propose cuts in future Social Security benefits is of enormous political significance. Social Security has long been characterized as the “third rail” of American politics—touch it and you die. Obama and Boehner are seeking to break this taboo and create a new political framework for imposing brutal austerity measures on working people.

Whatever the immediate outcome of the talks in Washington, whether or not a deal is reached before December 31, the overall direction is clear: entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are to be gutted. The only significant area of federal spending will be the military-police agencies required to defend the interests of the financial aristocracy—overseas against foreign rivals and revolutions, at home against the American working class.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cuts; obama; security; social
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Maybe call it socialist security?
1 posted on 12/22/2012 7:09:24 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Since when is SS an entitlement program? It’s a contract. The feds have been extorting my money for 50 yrs and using it.

I want my money back.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 7:16:30 AM PST by gasport
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To: Libloather

Brutal austerity measures = reality


3 posted on 12/22/2012 7:16:52 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Libloather

A memeber of Congress after 15 years can get their pension at age 50 — bastards!!!


4 posted on 12/22/2012 7:17:09 AM PST by avacado
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To: Libloather

Best to decrease the surplus population.


5 posted on 12/22/2012 7:20:22 AM PST by mikec256
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To: gasport
Since when is SS an entitlement program? It’s a contract.

You should take a copy of that contract you signed down to your lawyer's office and have him look it over.

6 posted on 12/22/2012 7:21:07 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Libloather; All
LL!
given who and what 0Buttcrack is all about....

7 posted on 12/22/2012 7:24:41 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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To: Libloather

The Second American Revolution is coming sooner that we all think.....red


8 posted on 12/22/2012 7:24:41 AM PST by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: gasport
I want my money back.

Exactly. I want back what they ripped out of my paychecks for 45 yrs without my permission then I'll go away. With interest, of course.

9 posted on 12/22/2012 7:28:26 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Libloather

Bump


10 posted on 12/22/2012 7:30:00 AM PST by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: gasport

Its worse than that. You pay income tax on the money they take out of your check for SS, and then you pay income tax again on the amount they give back each month during retirement


11 posted on 12/22/2012 7:30:26 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Wissa
You should take a copy of that contract you signed down to your lawyer's office and have him look it over.

The problem is too many lying, thieving lawyers in this country. Politicians are mostly failed lawyers on the government payroll.

12 posted on 12/22/2012 7:31:17 AM PST by vortigern
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To: gasport

It’s not a contract. If you die one day after retiring, your adult heirs will get nothing and the government gets it all. It’s a redistribution scheme taking money from the people that work all their lives and gives it to the retired.


13 posted on 12/22/2012 7:34:51 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Libloather

New Year’s prediction for our upside down nation:

Barkey will give another speech memorializing victims of the Sandy Hook shooting. He will claim that SS cuts will prevent gun violence and the MSM will take this up as part of their battle cry. Barkey’s approval rating will soar to 75% and grandmothers will march in favor of the cuts in front of the White House.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 7:34:55 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: gasport

I’ll settle for half my money back now and count me out of the program altogether


15 posted on 12/22/2012 7:36:45 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: gasport
Since when is SS an entitlement program?

In general I hate the term entitlement. Just how in the hell did someone get entitled to empty my wallet at the point of the federales' gun? One possible exception is Social Security because it was sold to the public as an "insurance" program of some type.

It’s a contract.

Absolutely not. The Flemming v. Nestor Supreme Court ruling in 1960 made it very clear that SS is not a contract and that you have no vested right to it. Congress could scrap the whole program next week if it wanted to and you would have no right to fight it in court.

I want my money back.

Don't we all. I just don't plan on getting any in 20 years. I expect all the "ants" to have their Social Security to be taxed or means tested away to pay for the ever increasing number of "grasshoppers".

16 posted on 12/22/2012 7:38:57 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Libloather

Course when Dubya wanted to reform this in his administration to gradually phase in private retirement plans for the younger and future generations, we all remember how the Democrats were blowing blood vessels and spouting lies about how the Republicans wanted to take away Grandma’s SS funds.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 7:44:34 AM PST by 3catsanadog (No more blaming Bush, Obama-now you inherited the mess you made.)
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To: gasport

Oh no no no no no no no no - Been working 45 years, and I’m 1 year away from retirement. Keep your limp wrists off my SS benefits, you pansy-a$$ed SOB.


18 posted on 12/22/2012 7:47:03 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (Reality ruins everything.)
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To: Libloather
Obama proposes Social Security cuts ...

Actually, he is working VERY hard for SS cuts, medicare cuts, medicaid cuts, welfare, etc .... all "entitlement" programs.

The main problem, though, is the method he is choosing to do so. By driving up the debt to epic levels with near-Ø interest levels, winding up the proverbial spring so-to-speak, so that when we no longer can borrow/print, the interest rate jump collapses the dollar. Entitlements? Gone... Poof!

19 posted on 12/22/2012 7:48:45 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: 3catsanadog
Bubba proposed privatizing it before Bush.

Here's the real problem...Medicaid should have been a totally separate program.

20 posted on 12/22/2012 7:53:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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