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Maybe call it socialist security?
1 posted on 12/22/2012 7:09:24 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Since when is SS an entitlement program? It’s a contract. The feds have been extorting my money for 50 yrs and using it.

I want my money back.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 7:16:30 AM PST by gasport
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To: Libloather

Brutal austerity measures = reality


3 posted on 12/22/2012 7:16:52 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Libloather

A memeber of Congress after 15 years can get their pension at age 50 — bastards!!!


4 posted on 12/22/2012 7:17:09 AM PST by avacado
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To: Libloather

Best to decrease the surplus population.


5 posted on 12/22/2012 7:20:22 AM PST by mikec256
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To: Libloather; All
LL!
given who and what 0Buttcrack is all about....

7 posted on 12/22/2012 7:24:41 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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To: Libloather

The Second American Revolution is coming sooner that we all think.....red


8 posted on 12/22/2012 7:24:41 AM PST by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: Libloather

Bump


10 posted on 12/22/2012 7:30:00 AM PST by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: Libloather

New Year’s prediction for our upside down nation:

Barkey will give another speech memorializing victims of the Sandy Hook shooting. He will claim that SS cuts will prevent gun violence and the MSM will take this up as part of their battle cry. Barkey’s approval rating will soar to 75% and grandmothers will march in favor of the cuts in front of the White House.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 7:34:55 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Libloather

Course when Dubya wanted to reform this in his administration to gradually phase in private retirement plans for the younger and future generations, we all remember how the Democrats were blowing blood vessels and spouting lies about how the Republicans wanted to take away Grandma’s SS funds.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 7:44:34 AM PST by 3catsanadog (No more blaming Bush, Obama-now you inherited the mess you made.)
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To: Libloather
Obama proposes Social Security cuts ...

Actually, he is working VERY hard for SS cuts, medicare cuts, medicaid cuts, welfare, etc .... all "entitlement" programs.

The main problem, though, is the method he is choosing to do so. By driving up the debt to epic levels with near-Ø interest levels, winding up the proverbial spring so-to-speak, so that when we no longer can borrow/print, the interest rate jump collapses the dollar. Entitlements? Gone... Poof!

19 posted on 12/22/2012 7:48:45 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Libloather
As time progresses, there are ebbs and flows in human freedom, justice, and sociopolitical systems. This is measured generally in centuries, not lifetimes. There are always those who are hurt in the process, and whose lives are riddled with injustice. I'm not defending this as inevitable, but I do believe that this is happening now to many people. We are in a time of worldwide social uncertainty, and the socialists/communists and their equivalents have been working for many decades now to push their agenda - the setback represented by the collapse of the USSR notwithstanding. That said, just because something is horribly unfair doesn't mean that it can't or won't happen.

I think we've been conditioned for so long to believe that justice will be done, and that the right things will occur in the end, that we forget that history is filled with those individuals who were treated unfairly and for whom justice was never done in the course of their lifetimes. So, yes, it is entirely possible that you and I and all of us who have paid into social security will never significantly benefit from it, while able-bodied mentally healthy people who did not work hard and did not pay into it will reap benefits from it. It is also entirely possible that the entire working life efforts and savings of people who are now close to, or already in retirement will be diluted so much by the devaluation of our currency that they will never come close to the kind of retirement lives that they worked so hard for - and will not have nearly as much to give their children and/or grandchildren as they thought they would in return for their hard work and sacrifice.

I'm not being fatalistic here, but I think it's very important that we all keep in mind that the world won't automatically be fair for us. We have to work to prevent injustice from happening to those we love, and to us, and this is a long and continuous process.

21 posted on 12/22/2012 7:54:42 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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I told my wife just this past week that I suspected in the near future that they would come up with some deal to cut SS by 1/3. Cut that, say $1,000 monthly check to $700 or so each month, even to those already getting it, not just futures.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 7:54:58 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Libloather

Take a look at Obama’s SS cuts closely. He is proposing to keep payments to those that paid into it low while not affecting payments to the moochers who get SSI. For us serfs that Social Security supplemental security income, for the moochers it’s known as crazy money. More people have gotten SSI over the last four years than got jobs.


28 posted on 12/22/2012 8:30:37 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: Libloather

Plunder & Death = Socialism/Totalitarianism 2.0

Plunder the productive, abort the elderly/infirm/useless eaters.


30 posted on 12/22/2012 8:51:31 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Libloather

boner and obama are working together. And this is why the republicans didn’t want the white house or the senate. obama can cut SS, the senate will rubber stamp anything he wants and the house will finally be compromising.


37 posted on 12/22/2012 10:23:02 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Libloather

It WILL be cut for

1) those who haven’t suffered ‘historical disadvantage’

2) those who vote Republican


41 posted on 12/23/2012 5:25:01 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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