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Psychosis Triggered by Smoking Pot?
CBS News ^ | February 8, 2011 | David W. Freeman

Posted on 12/26/2012 12:40:49 AM PST by SoCal SoCon

CBS) Advocates of medical marijuana say pot has all sorts of health benefits. Maybe so, but a new study from Australia suggests that smoking pot can drive some people crazy - or at least make them go crazy sooner than they would have if they had never picked up the pipe.

The study, published online in "Archives of General Psychiatry," shows that potheads develop severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia about 2.7 years earlier than people who don't use marijuana.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: choomgang; marijuana; mentalillness; obama; potheads; psychiatry

1 posted on 12/26/2012 12:41:01 AM PST by SoCal SoCon
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To: SoCal SoCon

I could see how it might accelerate a slide into crazy that was going to happen anyhow. Wouldn’t alcohol carry a similar risk?


2 posted on 12/26/2012 12:42:59 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: SoCal SoCon
"I'm not a marketing expert," Large said, "but we have to find a way to tell young kids to hold off."

Good luck with that, teens today are so indoctrinated with ‘parents are stupid’ propaganda from Hollyweird you have about as much chance of persuading a lion that gazelles are hazardous to their health.

3 posted on 12/26/2012 12:59:45 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

Maybe it’s the screen in the bottom of the bowl that heats up.


4 posted on 12/26/2012 1:08:26 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: SoCal SoCon
develop severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia about 2.7 years earlier than people who don't use

Interesting... Didn't know schizophrenia was related to age in any way. Always thought you were born with it or weren't and that that was that. Just goes to show what I know.

5 posted on 12/26/2012 1:19:23 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Pontiac
with ‘parents are stupid’ propaganda

That's true in far too many cases.

6 posted on 12/26/2012 1:25:59 AM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

Just because I’m not paranoid doesn’t mean everybody isn’t coming after me.


7 posted on 12/26/2012 1:26:55 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SoCal SoCon
People should be sticking with ‘safe’ drugs produce by big pharma. The ones they pump the kids full of with the approval of the state. We all know there is virtually NO chance that these drugs could cause mental problem.
8 posted on 12/26/2012 2:05:06 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

I really wonder if it’s a chicken-or-the egg situation. Maybe these kids are feeling wrong and are self-medicating to calm their anxiety in the early stages.

At lease one person agrees that this might be a possibility:

“Michael Rice, a psychiatric nurse practitioner at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, told HealthDay that people who are predisposed to schizophrenia might gravitate to smoking pot because it has a beneficial anti-inflammatory effect.”

I know that there’s a link between smoking tobacco and mental illness. I don’t remember where I read it (it’s been years), but in that study scientists did think that it was caused by mentally ill people self-medicating themselves with tobacco - not the tobacco making them ill. They also found that cigarettes lessened the effects of psychosis and depression.


9 posted on 12/26/2012 2:58:41 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I could see how it might accelerate a slide into crazy that was going to happen anyhow. Wouldn’t alcohol carry a similar risk?

Alcohol dulls the senses

Maryjane gives you an Insight into how FU you may or may not be (paranoia where no actual threat exists). It can then help you to work things out. Or could send you into a downward spiral that can end extremely badly.

10 posted on 12/26/2012 3:21:51 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

So it’s a diagnostic tool for detecting latent mental illness.


11 posted on 12/26/2012 3:31:10 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: South Dakota
Maybe it’s the screen in the bottom of the bowl that heats up.

Could be (some sort of metals toxicity), or it could be any of the countless adulterants (intentional or otherwise) which could be present, from other drugs to agricultural chemicals.

12 posted on 12/26/2012 3:53:28 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: NurdlyPeon

I’m with you on this one. Two point seven years over a lifetime, is not statistically significant IMHO. There is as much myth and distortion on the subject of MJ as there is on global warming, excuse me, global climate change.


13 posted on 12/26/2012 4:06:57 AM PST by wita (I)
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To: NurdlyPeon

I’m with you on this one. Two point seven years over a lifetime, is not statistically significant IMHO. There is as much myth and distortion on the subject of MJ as there is on global warming, excuse me, global climate change.


14 posted on 12/26/2012 4:06:57 AM PST by wita (I)
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To: wita

We have experienced this issue in our family-—a neice.

While 2.7 years may not be much - for her it would have made the difference between the appearance of the illness while in college versus after college.

College is a really tough time to manage an illness - such as being bi-polar. (family history as well)

Of course, her parents were these permissive, indulgent liberals who simply accepted here high school and early college drug use.


15 posted on 12/26/2012 4:24:56 AM PST by pkmaine
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To: pkmaine
From my understanding, schizophrenia usually begins to exhibit itself in early adulthood, so it's not really 2.7 years over the lifetime of a person, but rather how early you start exhibiting symptoms as a young adult or late teen.

There are many reports of people experiencing psychotic episodes with this drug. It's always put down by the pot smokers as made up.

16 posted on 12/26/2012 4:56:31 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: SoCal SoCon
a new study from Australia suggests that smoking pot can drive some people crazy

You know, back in the 30's there was this movie. It was called "Reefer Madness"...

17 posted on 12/26/2012 5:00:43 AM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: MAexile

I have known several people who gave up reefer. Some became more reasonable and clearheaded while others angry and agitated. It isnt a harmless drug.


18 posted on 12/26/2012 5:17:33 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Hope that the FR dopers are still sleeping off their Christmas light-up.

Otherwise you'll be attacked by users who claim that they smoke regularly and still function as rocket scientists and loving spouses.

19 posted on 12/26/2012 5:32:18 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: SoCal SoCon
Although you might not be able to prove weed causes liberalism/leftism, I'd say it's undeniably true that a much larger percentage of lib-leftists use dope than conservatives. I knew a very liberal (he's a truther) co-worker who confessed to smoking large amounts of dope when in college but quit when he said he started becoming paranoid.

Certainly not all heavy dope smokers become paranoid or experience other manifestations of psychosis, but weed had been linked with these illnesses by numerous studies. I'm not for banning the stuff, but it's time for the weed advocates to quit their denial of dope's adverse effects.

20 posted on 12/26/2012 5:34:44 AM PST by driftless2
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The risk of mental illness from short term alcohol use or abuse is minimal, although some cases are known due to genetic susceptibility.


21 posted on 12/26/2012 5:42:40 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: driftless2

I’m not for banning the stuff, but it’s time for the weed advocates to quit their denial of dope’s adverse effects.

The snarky approach would be, you mean like prison overcrowding, and increased sales of snack food items.

I’d just like to see a change in the WOD, and the incarceration non violent folks. The movement is making progress of sorts, and we will have to see how WA CO and MT deal with the changes, which will then benefit other states seeking solutions. Never have and never intend to be a user.


22 posted on 12/26/2012 5:47:14 AM PST by wita
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To: SoCal SoCon

So that explains choom-wagon, occupier-in-chief?


23 posted on 12/26/2012 6:08:48 AM PST by PGalt
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To: wita

I can tell you that here in WA the new law provides for a drug test on suspected impairment whilst driving or after an accident if bodily injury is involved. If you injure a person whilst stoned you are presumed at fault based on the drug test.

Pretty sobering thought for those who smoke and drive.


24 posted on 12/26/2012 6:28:14 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: wita

While I would like to see the prisons emptied of anybody arrested for smoking dope or possession, that was not my point. My point was simply that ever the rise of large usage of dope in the general population going back to the sixties, the dope advocates have been exceptionally vociferous in stating that it has no ill effects other than the tendency to consume large amounts of munchies. Many studies later have proven that assumption to be false. Heavy dope smoking, like any drug, can have harmful effects. That was all I was trying to say.


25 posted on 12/26/2012 6:28:20 AM PST by driftless2
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To: LoveUSA
Otherwise you'll be attacked by users who claim that they smoke regularly and still function as rocket scientists and loving spouses.

Wouldn't they just send a rocket?

26 posted on 12/26/2012 6:36:31 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: driftless2

...and I wasn’t trying to put words in your mouth, just responding to an article.


27 posted on 12/26/2012 6:38:58 AM PST by wita
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To: RitchieAprile

Pretty sobering thought for those who smoke and drive.

I wonder based on the culture just how many sobering thoughts those folks have who are into themselves over the well being of their friends, neighbors, and fellow citizens.

Like those who continue DUI after DUI with no thought to “am I my brother’s keeper?”


28 posted on 12/26/2012 6:43:51 AM PST by wita
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To: FreeAtlanta
I have known several people who gave up reefer. Some became more reasonable and clearheaded while others angry and agitated. It isnt a harmless drug.

When I quit smoking regularly, I was agitated for about four or five days. There is a mentally addictive quality involved.

But compared to the trauma involved quitting cigarettes...no comparison. A speed bump versus Mt. McKinley.

29 posted on 12/26/2012 6:50:03 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: driftless2

I agree with you. Some may tolerate it just fine. Others not so much. I also agree with the poster that postulated a correlation (i.e. not causation) with leftist beliefs - again maybe not 100% correlation but a tendency. One other point - I think it’s the case that the pot that’s smoked now is way more potent than that of back in the day. So for those adversely affected, perhaps the effect is more pronounced due to increased potency.


30 posted on 12/26/2012 6:51:14 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SoCal SoCon

An ex-boyfriend of mine did a lot of pot and shrooms in his 20s and 30s, and sure enough, he flipped out. Started telling people about the visions he had, the spirits of shaamans and famous people who would come to him in his room at night, and everything that was “revealed” to him about Dec 21, 2012. He went offline that day and hasn’t been back since. I’m worried he jumped off a bridge or something. He’s overseas somewhere... travels so much I can’t keep track of him. All through India & the Middle East.


31 posted on 12/26/2012 6:51:46 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: NurdlyPeon

You forgot the sarcasm tag. :)


32 posted on 12/26/2012 6:57:06 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: SoCal SoCon

Two things about schizophrenia.

The typical age “window” for developing schizophrenia is from age 15 to about age 35 to as late as 45.

There is now a “smell test” to help diagnose schizophrenia before it shows symptoms.

“It has long been known that people with schizophrenia or psychosis are unable to correctly identify smells. For instance, they thought the smell from a pizza actually came from an orange or the smell of bubblegum was actually smoke.”

The utility of this test is that it can be done very cheaply by anyone, and may indicate that medical diagnosis and possibly treatment should be done immediately before the disease manifests itself.


33 posted on 12/26/2012 7:33:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: SoCal SoCon
In the Freedom Philosophy, you* have self-ownership. What that means, is you control what substances you put in your body, not the government.

So, whether pot makes you stupid, causes some people to go crazy or kills you is beside the point.

It's a freedom issue.

*You = an adult human being, who has not been convicted of a felony or adjudged to be mentally incompetent.

34 posted on 12/26/2012 8:39:03 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Vaquero

I’ve heard that kind of talk before and it seems a bit overly glib to me.


35 posted on 12/26/2012 9:25:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: SoCal SoCon

The bottom line on smoking pot, which has been around for millennia, as a culturally acceptable practice, is that pot makes you paranoid, lazy and pleasure seeking while alcohol makes you irritable, belligerent and “hold my beer” fearless. Apply these characteristics to a military empire building scenario and you understand why alcohol is OK and cannabis is not. It’s that freaking simple.


36 posted on 12/26/2012 12:29:25 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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