Posted on 12/26/2012 5:47:25 AM PST by Kaslin
Shelves empty of guns and ammo and 2 hour wait lists at gun ranges pretty much tell the tale...
Um, it hardly gets bluer than Obama's home state, and even here in Illinois, almost EVERYone I talk to, liberal or otherwise, has come over to the "dark side" of supporting gun rights as a way to protect the children. I totally stumped the most liberal person I work with by a simple challenge, how do you define an assault weapon? These people, at the infantry level, cannot handle even the simplest engagements. Even my own lib extended family, who would normally try to shut me up on any politically controversial topic at a holiday gathering, sat silent or otherwise supportive as I extolled the virtues of gun ownership and the ridiculousness and impossibility of citizen disarmament. Just like the author of this article, I was floored. Pleased, but floored. I had expected an all out "bad family argument." It didn't happen. Amazing.
So, IMHO, if anything, the left is ripe to lose this argument big-time. Why? Because the logic of self-defense is so basic and so natural that even a deeply programmed liberal cannot escape the power of the argument: we have a right and a duty to protect our kids, and weaponizing their caretakers is still the best, simplest way to do this in a world where craziness happens. Period. We win. They lose. Deal with it.
Peace,
SR
“Let them try... quitter...”
...You are incorrect. I’m no quitter. I am ashamed of myself however for sounding like one.
I’m not sure “stand-down” articles like this are believable. It would be like this administration to force its way toward gun control, even if everything in the article were true. The enemy is not to be trusted to be predictable.
The RNC should be out there beating liberal politicians over the head with this instead of trying to find a middle ground, but the RNC is run by RINOs.
I hope so. Difficult for me to gauge. Where I live gun ownership is a given. It is the blue Northeast states that concern me.
It is not what Obama and his crowd of fawning demons do in public view that bothers me, it is what he does behind the scenes that is so damaging. I would not break into the “home run trot” just yet. They will keep trying.
I am ashamed for thinking that your were one. I apologize to you my friend.
Belated Merry Christmas.
LLS
And if they ever do lose the narrative, why they’ll just order up another mass killing or two.
What really, really pains me about your comment is that it is utterly believable and probable .... and that I would even think this to be true is almost unbelievable, except it isn’t.
I too think that this is probable. It might seem paranoid to think that individuals are being watched and primed to commit an atrocity when one is needed to advance an agenda. But for some reason it happens over and over right on schedule when needed. And then the Politicians “have to act quickly” because the media has pushed the populace’s “hot button”.
But if they wait too long to act then reason and the real facts come out to squash their agenda. At that point it’s time to have another atrocity to show that this is not a fluke. All we have to do is look at recent history over the last fifty years to see the pattern.
What’s changed though is that media no longer fully controls the means of distributing information. The cracks in the “Gate keepers Dam of News worthiness” are about to fail spectacularly.
Most people, especially gov’t/elite worshipping leftists, are appalled at the notion that those in power would seek even more power through mass murder.
But they will, and historically, it’s proven that it is ENTIRELY likely that they will.
Without guns, how will you shoot back?
I got nothin to lose anyways.
Bttt
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.- B. Franklin
My sister works with the ‘Safe Neighborhoods Project’, a get guns off the streets program and she agrees with the cops in schools idea and has talked about getting a gun for protection because of some of the bad ‘hoods’ she goes into.
I think the Left lost this argument years ago. I know at least five women who have purchased personal protection guns in the last couple of years because of what they see as a dangerous devolution of society. I think all these women have taken the ‘when seconds count the police are only minutes away’ mantra to heart.
I notice they haven't talked too much about the murders of the firefighters in Webster NY. I also notice that BamBam didn't interrupt his Hawaiian vacation extravaganza (all on our dime) to visit with the families of the victims of that massacre. A few reasons I suspect (I'm a cynic I know)
1) The gunman served 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer in 1980. He was convicted only of manslaughter, and was paroled in 1998. Maybe Liberals see that this would cause the masses to start calling for more stringent sentences on convicted psychos, and that goes against all that the Schumers of the world believe in.
2) The suspect was already banned from owning guns. Notice it didn't stop him from setting a fire, waiting for the firemen to arrive then gunning them down. Even if he didn't have a gun who's to say the fire he set wouldn't have taken out a fireman.
3)NY has the toughest gun laws in the country. He was forbidden to possess a gun.....didn't stop him.
So this psycho didn't fit the media template therefore the story will be forgotten within a week.
I think the tide is turning in our favor. Per local law any building owner may prohibit bringing firearms into the building by posting a notice . In my office such a notice has been affixed to the entrances for years. The building manager was asked a day after the Newtown murders if he would consider taking it down. They were removed this week.
Don't forget this is the justice dept behind Fast & Furious. This was the original intent behind that debacle. Give Mexican drug gangs access to high powered weapons, a few killings in the U.S. and viola, anti gun hysteria and calls for gun bans and confiscations. Newtown CT just accomplished that (in the left's eyes) more efficiently and with no connection to the regime.
Things I thought of as unthinkable 4 years ago seem very likely today.
What I find interesting coming from my liberal friends is their total lack of acceptance that a government could turn on its people to the point that the people would feel compelled to fight back. I always get the eye roll, OMG sigh and the ‘it’s not the 18th century anymore’ comment.
Here’s how we win:
Do what I did Saturday. I took two teacher friends out and shot guns with them. We shot several guns (that I unfortunately lost later after they fell out of a canoe) and the two friends genuinely had a good time breaking bottles and shooting scope. They are now interested in purchasing (and loving) their own set of guns.
If each of us did that, we will win.
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