Posted on 12/26/2012 5:47:25 AM PST by Kaslin
“I don’t think they have lost the narrative at all.”
I’d have to agree with you. The original article above contains much wishful thinking and whistlin’ in the wind.
The “dialogue” on gun control is not over — it hasn’t even really yet begun. Expect this to ramp up in January, and consume much activity in D.C. through the spring and summer.
I would expect any gun control bill to be hundreds of pages long, with provisions deliberately “buried”. Another one of those laws that (as Nancy Pelosi said) has to be passed to find out what’s really in it...
“I don’t know. I chatted up a good friend of mine, who is in his early thirties, yesterday. He specifically mentioned that a lot of people around him, who were ambivalent towards guns/gun control, etc., are waking up and getting pissed off. These are folks he said rarely, if ever, even mention guns at all.”
Your post is unclear.
Exactly HOW are they getting “pissed off”?
What sentiments are they expressing?
Which side of the argument are they coming down towards?
Please clarify for the dunderheads like myself...
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“while those of us who dare say otherwise are pushed off the stage as racist bigots.”
We need to keep climbing back on the stage and crashing the party. It would be a sin to do otherwise.
The author is correct.
The liberals are too afraid to touch this radioactive issue.
I wish they would persue gun control. This would change the political landscape.
Look at the massive growth of the NRA the very day the tragedy occurred, gun owners knew they would be blamed for a crime they did not commit.
Also somthing is happening that has never occured before.
Gun stores are soldout in ammo and guns.
Factories are ruuning full blast and shelves are still empty.
You are SO right. Every winnable argument, and we've had plenty, is given up by these fools so they can be liked by Katie Couric, David Gergory, Bob Schieffer, the NY Times, Wash Post, etc, etc.
I guess when they do finally tell the TRUTH, boldly and without remorse, they get the Joe Wilson* treatment, and every RINO heads for the tall grass with a wet, yellow trail behind them.
*After nearly an hour of contentious debate, the House of Representatives passed a resolution of disapproval criticizing South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson for shouting out "you lie!" in the middle of President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress last week.
The largely party-line vote was 240 in favor to 179 opposed. Twelve Democrats opposed the measure, and five others voted "present." Seven Republicans backed it.
The resolution called the outburst "a breach of decorum [that] degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House."
"Now, therefore, be it resolved, that the House of Representatives disapproves of the behavior of the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson," it read.
This will be like pot. Some states will be anti-gun and some states will be pro-gun. And the por-gun states will be left alone by the Feds, because they can’t enforce their silliness at the local level without state cooperation.
“Obama may face the last half of his term contending with a Republican controlled Congress.”
Heh.
At the rate the Pubbies are going now, regarding the “fiscal cliff”, they are on a glide path to lose the House in 2014. This is going to be the issue that the ‘rats use to divide and conquer the Republicans in D.C.
They will make gun control an issue in 2013, but I sense that if the resistance becomes too tough, they’ll “get quiet” on things through the end of 2012 and 2013, and keep hammering on the economy.
If and when they get full control of Congress in 2014, expect the big guns to be brought out by the left to fire away on the gun control agenda. By then they’ll have the numbers to push it through, with backroom deals and payoffs if necessary — just like they did with ObamaCare. (Aside: also remember that Reid plans to revise filibuster rules in the Senate in 2013, so the filibuster may not be an option for Republicans afterwards)
I bet that ticked off the anti gun folks. I don't use FB, but would love to see some reactions.
I hate these liberals who say “Private citizens shouldn’t own the same weapons as the military.” The military is the government. And the 2nd amendment was written to keep the citizens armed AGAINST the government.
OK, putting aside the conspiracy theory aspect, what do you think they’re going to come up with if the attempted murder of a U.S. Congresswoman (with the murder of a nine year old girl thrown in) and the murder of classrooms full of sx year olds didn’t get people on the “ban guns, it’s for the children” bandwagon?
You know, it’s great they’re going to lose that gun show loophole, since Adam Lanza bought his guns at a...Hey, wait a minute!
It should worry you that you read an article saying we are winning and you think the author’s message is to stand down. Quite the opposite. Keep on it and win more converts.
Honestly, I do not know.
The Godless Left, is, in my opinion, what Churchill said about the Soviet Union:
“I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest.”
What is the key to the Godless Left? POWER and CONTROL. The ends justify the means. Without God, what is their morality, their ethics based on?
It’s not something good, in my opinion.
There are things, as a Christian, I could not, would not do.
If you have no Superior Morality to guide you, except a man-made list of ethics, that are at best situational, and not eternal, what could you, would you not do?
As Saint Paul said:
“For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.”
But again I ask, if the near murder of a U.S. Congresswoman (Giffords would have been dead as a doornail from that wound even ten or fifteen years ago) and the murder of classrooms full of six year olds didn’t do it, what would?
They will go after bullets and magazines. Better buy plenty of both now before they go for them. The 2d Amd does not say a right to bear bullets they will say, thus outlaw all bullets. That is where they will go if they cannot get the guns. I am planning to visit my fav gun shop this week and fill his pockets with bucks for bullets.
I was not talking about their moral state or putting something beyond them. I’m asking what could convince the public suddenly that gun confiscation is a good idea that didn’t convince them before.
I think you're right. I'm not crediting any one slogan with it, but another one that comes to mind is "Gun control is the idea that a woman strangled to death with her own panty hose in an ally is morally superior to the one telling the police how she shot the rapist."
I think there's been a change in culture, too, which a lot of normally liberal-leaning people have noticed. We went from "I Fought the Law and the Law Won" to "Cop Killer" in a generation, and another generation on being a thug, which used to be one of the worst things you could call people, is celebrated. People who would have figured they could rely on cops are now seeing a pathology in the wider culture, and they want to defend themselves against it.
I just find it suspicious that a ‘we are winning’ article comes out before the enemy commission has issued its bogus reports and before the enemy has introduced their legislation. It is, in my opinion, possibly disinformation designed to cause the pro-gun forces to relax- which is at this moment precisely what we should not do.
Um, no, keeping and bearing arms necessarily implies the weapon functioning as a weapon, including the projectile. Furthermore, restriction of a fundamental right via some direct government-imposed economic restriction would be subject to a strict scrutiny standard, and that is almost always a losing argument for the gov. Legally, this is untenable for the left. They will ultimately be forced to go at this some other way. Rather than handwringing over nonissues, we should be anticipating their plan B maneuver and heading them off at the pass.
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