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What the 'fiscal cliff' means for you
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/23/12

Posted on 12/26/2012 6:07:34 AM PST by rhema

If politicians fail to cut a "fiscal cliff" deal before Jan. 1, it means a lot less money in your pocket, period. This is especially true for lower-income earners, who will be hit hardest proportionally.

To illustrate the danger the fiscal cliff poses to Americans right now, at Christmastime, we used the Tax Foundation's tax calculator to produce a few examples of how Americans in various life situations will be affected.

Our first example is Manuel -- a young fellow who makes about $50,000 a year working at a newspaper.

Manuel, a single man with no dependents

What he pays now: $9,075

If we go over the fiscal cliff: $10,313

Difference: $1,238

Manuel's income tax rates will rise, and the payroll tax holiday will expire. As a result, he will pay an additional $1,238 in taxes -- and he'll see the difference immediately in his first paycheck.

Parents will be hit harder than people without children. Anne, for example, makes just $40,000 as a hospital receptionist, and she is a single mom.

Anne, single mom with one child

What she pays now: $4,268

If we go over the fiscal cliff: $6,048

Difference: $1,780

In addition to increases in her income and payroll taxes, Anne will lose out because the per-child tax credit will fall from $1,000 to $500. For her, that's a 42 percent tax increase.

Stephen and Alexandra -- a two-income family with two children -- would be hit even harder. He makes $60,000 as a firefighter, while her job as a Catholic school teacher pays $40,000.

Stephen and Alexandra, married with two children

What they pay now: $14,300

If we go over the fiscal cliff: $21,950

Difference: $7,650

Their tax bill goes up because they would not be allowed to claim the per-child tax credit and would have to pay the 26 percent Alternative Minimum Tax for part of their income. All told, their taxes would rise by $7,650 -- more than 50 percent -- to $21,950 per year.

The fiscal cliff also means that Uncle Sam will take a bite out of the retirement money many seniors rely on. An increase in the tax rate on investment income, combined with the move to tax dividends as ordinary income, means that Harold and Phyllis, a retired married couple, would see their taxes nearly double!

Harold and Phyllis, retired married couple

What they pay now: $3,395

If we go over the fiscal cliff: $6,638

Difference: $3,243

Their $15,000 in dividends will be taxed as ordinary income, and the rate on their $10,000 in investment income will go up, with astounding (and depressing) results. Their $30,000 in Social Security benefits and $20,000 in other income will also be taxed at a higher rate.

Wendy, a single woman with no children, makes $300,000 as the owner of a small construction business, plus $30,000 from capital gains and $10,000 from dividends. She faces a 17 percent tax increase.

Wendy, single small-business owner

What she pays now in taxes: $100,519

What she'll pay if we go over the fiscal cliff: $116,923

Difference: $16,404

Wendy's rates will go up, plus she will pay the new Obamacare tax on her investment income. The $16,404 in additional taxes she would pay could have otherwise been reinvested in expanding her business.

Fenton and Sarah, the wealthiest couple in this cast of characters, earn $750,000 in combined salary as a stock analyst and lawyer. They also have $250,000 in investment income, $50,000 in dividend income, two kids and a mortgage. These members of the fabled "1 percent" face a tax increase of $79,224, or 28 percent.

Fenton and Sandra, professionals with two children

What they pay now in taxes: $322,788

What they'll pay if we go over the fiscal cliff: $407,396

Difference: $84,608

The fiscal cliff will be very unkind to everyone -- including seniors, parents shouldering the enormous expense of raising children, and people in lower income brackets.

This is why it's important for Congress and President Obama to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff on Jan. 1.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; fiscalcliff; obama; reid

1 posted on 12/26/2012 6:07:38 AM PST by rhema
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To: rhema

A lot of people don’t have to wait ‘till 2013 for a tax increase. some of us are going to see a substantial AMT in 2012


2 posted on 12/26/2012 6:12:09 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: rhema

Fiscal cliff now...or pay more later. There is no escape. Get it over with so the politicians won’t have it to use as an ever-present threat. Pay the piper.


3 posted on 12/26/2012 6:14:36 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: rhema
The fiscal cliff will be very unkind to everyone -- including seniors, parents shouldering the enormous expense of raising children, and people in lower income brackets.

This is why it's important for Congress and President Obama to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff on Jan. 1.

...but they won't.

4 posted on 12/26/2012 6:14:43 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: rhema

The dirty little secret is that the people described above are going to see their taxes raised eventually. There just aren’t enough rich people to soak over the long haul.

The real wealth in this country is spread across the millions who make up the middle class - not in the 1%.

The middle class is going to be crushed by Obamacare alone.

Democrats won’t agree to any spending cuts or entitlement reform so taxes have to go up hard on all the 53% who are paying them and probably a good share of the 47% who aren’t. The low info voters just don’t know it yet.

Next year is going to be an interesting ride as states continue to struggle and the can gets kicked further down the road toward the brick wall.


5 posted on 12/26/2012 6:22:45 AM PST by randita
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To: rhema

And, don’t forget all of us who work for the DoD as contractors who will not only see our taxes go up, but also our incomes go to zero as our jobs are eliminated.


6 posted on 12/26/2012 6:26:26 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: rhema

This is an unsigned editorial in the Washington Examiner. Some of the examples are wildly erratic. I think it was written by someone who has only a rudimentary comfort with math, and very little knowledge of actual tax law.


7 posted on 12/26/2012 6:28:09 AM PST by maica
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To: rhema
Our first example is Manuel -- a young fellow who makes about $50,000 a year working at a newspaper.
Manuel, a single man with no dependents
What he pays now: $9,075
If we go over the fiscal cliff: $10,313
Difference: $1,238

Most of that difference is the 'Payroll Tax Holiday' that Zero put in. Slashing employee SS contributions by 23% (6.2% to 4.2%)

2% of $50,000 = $1,000

I don't think they are even touching the sunset of the payroll tax holiday - for Manuel, that's the bulk of his tax savings of his cliff.

8 posted on 12/26/2012 6:37:17 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: maica

And manuel is probably an illegal anyway.


9 posted on 12/26/2012 6:42:19 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: hal ogen
Pay the piper.

Then break his flute.

10 posted on 12/26/2012 6:49:00 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: rhema

All the financial pain that’s been building up over the years, with trillion-dollar deficits, out-of-control giveaways and a whopping national debt, is here.

Pay it now, while it hurts, or pay it later, when it will be agonizing and quite possibly fatal. Either way, the economy is going to suffer.

We might as well go over the cliff and have done with it. Let all those low-info voters realize what they voted for. Once they start howling, maybe they’ll wake up.

And yes, I’m part of the 53% who pays taxes. (Funny how 10% is good enough for the church, but five times that burden isn’t enough for government.)


11 posted on 12/26/2012 6:50:06 AM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. No exceptions.)
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To: rhema

>> This is why it’s important for Congress and President Obama to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff on Jan. 1.

... but not SO important that Boner should cut a deal “at any cost”.

The FACT is, withholding may increase immediately, but the tax bill doesn’t actually come due until April 2014.

Plenty of time for the populus to realize the bum deal they’re getting from Obummer and DEMAND tax relief. And any tax rate extension passed by Congress can (and most likely will) be retroactive to Jan 1. That pretty much gives ‘em all year to fix the problem. And any excess taxes paid in through increased withholding will be refunded in 2014.

This doesn’t apply to the so-called “payroll tax holiday” but that’s a whole ‘nuther deal, and was supposed to be temporary anyhow.


12 posted on 12/26/2012 7:00:01 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: DNME
Pay it now, while it hurts, or pay it later,

It can't be paid now or ever. the best that can be done it kick it down the road awhile longer but it does not go away.

I worked with many business in bankruptcy, I can not remember one that was successfull. The reason is because of the mgt and mentality of the people involved, it does not change.

13 posted on 12/26/2012 7:02:44 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: rhema

Not to worry. If you’re making less than $250,00, you will not have your taxes increased by one dime. Said the man behind the curtain. /


14 posted on 12/26/2012 7:04:20 AM PST by Straight8
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To: rhema

Conservatives need to rename the “Fiscal Cliff” to the “Obama Cliff” so that the Demos truly own it. Right now, the Fiscal Cliff is some ominious thing that they’ll be able to blame instead of the Left’s higher taxes and higher spending.

LIberal media is always adept at PACKAGING things that would normally be unfavorable to the Left in nice, feel-good sound bytes, such as “Affirmative Action”, “Investing” instead of spending tax dollars, etc.

As Drudge said: “Merry CLIFFmas!”


15 posted on 12/26/2012 7:06:21 AM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: rhema
Does this article mention that every bit if this fiscal cliff nonsense was created by the same group of people who claim they are trying to save us from it?

This is a fictitious crises made by government so as to create panic. The panic in turn allows them to steal MORE OF OUR LIBERTY.

States wake up!

16 posted on 12/26/2012 7:08:45 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: rhema
Manuel's income tax rates will rise, and the payroll tax holiday will expire. As a result, he will pay an additional $1,238 in taxes -- and he'll see the difference immediately in his first paycheck.

He voted for Obama and I'm sure he wants to do his patriotic best.

17 posted on 12/26/2012 8:51:35 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Through the woods and over the cliff ....)
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To: rhema

This is why President Pee Wee is taking a break from his vacation.


18 posted on 12/26/2012 9:42:35 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rhema

There is some pleasure to be had in this...knowing that Obama voters, at least the ones not on welfare, will really be pinched. Like lawyers, teachers, college administrators...


19 posted on 12/26/2012 11:31:17 AM PST by Mamzelle
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