Nuns speak out: ‘Gun regulation is an imperative’

seattlepi.com ^ | December 26, 2012 | Joel Connelly

[Arthur McGowan]

These nuns are pro-abortion feminist progressives. They don’t represent “the Catholic Church.”

The Catholic Church moves very slowly (I think too slowly) to discipline wayward nuns and clerics. It is not the thought-controlling, speech-controlling totalitarian organization it is often portrayed as.

I.e., just because a bunch of nuns comes out for gun control doesn’t mean “the Catholic Church” has come out for gun control.

[Wonder Warthog]

"The orders of nuns that actually wear habits are mostly new orders. They tend to be young, pro-life, pro-military, and pro-gun. I know a great many of them. Over the past two decades, their orders have been growing like wildfire."

And then there is Mother Angelica.......... ;^)

[stockpirate]

The Pope needs to remove them from the church.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Toldya About the Lesbian Nuns in Leavenworth [Ann Barnhardt]

[DManA]

To recap:

You complained people were bashing Catholics.

I explained what they said was bash-worthy.

You came back with the non sequetor that they don’t represent the Catholic Church.

[Graybeard58]

The Catholic Church moves very slowly (I think too slowly) to discipline wayward nuns and clerics.

Not to mention, very high profile liberal politicians.

Or maybe it's not the church's job to discipline private citizens, not being Catholic, I don't know. I do know there appears to be a lot of them.

[Magnatron]

When they outlaw rulers, only nuns will have rulers...

[SamuraiScot]

young, pro-life, pro-military, and pro-gun. I know a great many of them. Over the past two decades, their orders have been growing like wildfire."

And then there is Mother Angelica.......... ;^)

All that applies in spades to Mother Angelica's order, in case you're not familiar with it. A lot of young vocations there, too.

[SamuraiScot]

The Pope needs to remove them from the church.

Strictly speaking, the Pope can't remove them from the Church. Baptism makes "an indelible mark upon the soul." They will always be Catholics.

BUT . . . to your point. He can silence the worst individuals from making any public statements. He can disband their entire orders. Or he can wait for the trouble-makers to die, which is ongoing at very great speed, since they are all old. He appears to be doing a bit of all three. I'd like it all to move a lot faster, but no one made me Pope. Or even God.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Or maybe it's not the church's job to discipline private citizens, not being Catholic, I don't know. I do know there appears to be a lot of them."

The Church's policy in all these cases is to move very slowly and make every effort to keep the wayward in the flock, always hoping that they will be granted the grace to change back to conforming to what the Church teaches.

But the Church "is" moving, and a number of high-profile "dissenters" have been disciplined of late, and in the case of some priests, laicized. One name that comes to mind is "no-longer-father" Roy Bourgeois, a MaryKnoll priest who started out anti-nuke, then anti-war, then social-justice, and finally, advocating women priests. I suspect that "Father" Pflegler of Chicago will be called to order soon.

I'm more familiar with Bourgeois, as he (like me) hails from Louisiana, so I've heard more about/from him than many others.

[Wonder Warthog]

"All that applies in spades to Mother Angelica's order, in case you're not familiar with it."

Oh, I'm VERY familiar with MA. My sincere regret is that my cable package doesn't include EWTN, and I can't justify the upgrade just to get her channel.

[Arthur McGowan]

The Church has no right to discipline any politician qua politician. But it has the obligation (which all but a few bishops ignore) to protect the sacraments from sacrilege—whether the person involved is a washerwoman or President or Nancy Pelosi.

[SamuraiScot]

My sincere regret is that my cable package doesn't include EWTN

I'm like you. I only see it at the gym, when I turn one of the TVs to it. I don't even take TV in my cable package. I've got young kids, and there's too much trash. DVDs and the (controlled) Internet are generally plenty, but it would be nice to have a better idea of what the channel is showing.

Do you know if EWTN tends to feature the sisters of Mother's order? About 20 years ago, a friend—the daughter of a big-time Catholic philanthropist—joined, and I think it's worked out very well for her. I also get newsletters from a lot of turbo-Catholic colleges, and I've seen several mentions of recent graduates who are postulants or nuns there.

Those devout young ladies are in reality. The poor old '60s nuns are on a bad trip, and I don't think most of them still in their dying, socialist religious orders even did drugs. Some of them are even pretty good schoolteachers, but that generation of nuns was never taught how to think. Way different from the pistol-packing philosopher nuns who went before them. I still meet a few of those.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Do you know if EWTN tends to feature the sisters of Mother's order? About 20 years ago, a friend—the daughter of a big-time Catholic philanthropist—joined, and I think it's worked out very well for her. I also get newsletters from a lot of turbo-Catholic colleges, and I've seen several mentions of recent graduates who are postulants or nuns there."

I'm pretty sure it does, but since I don't get EWTN, I can't testify directly. A lot of what I read indicates that, though. The wife watches some of the programs over the internet on her laptop.....mostly Marcus Grodi's show. I can't get into TV shows and movies on my PC (screen too small, speakers inadequate). We stream Netflix onto our "slightly" large screen TV, as access to it is built into both it and our Blu-Ray player.

Anyone out there know of a "stream-to-TV" option for EWTN??? One that doesn't involve a "home theater PC" setup??