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Is it True Armed Civilians Have Never Stopped a Mass Shooting?
Weekly Standard ^ | Dec 20, 2012 | MARK HEMINGWAY

Posted on 12/27/2012 2:48:21 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Just this year in Tacoma a mass shooting was stopped by the mere sight of a citizen with a gun. The perp broke off his attack and killed himself.


21 posted on 12/27/2012 3:17:31 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem

Law abiding citizens are not armed in a “gun free zone”.


22 posted on 12/27/2012 3:18:54 PM PST by duffee (Newt Gingrich for Speaker)
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To: neverdem

IIRC, I read somewhere the Batman movie theater murderer just ‘conincidentally’ picked a theater NOT closest to home AND that had a ‘no guns’ policy and signage.


24 posted on 12/27/2012 3:21:44 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Yehuda

to do that I’d have to buy a copy.

now if theres a copy someone would lend me...


25 posted on 12/27/2012 3:26:15 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: neverdem

This “study” is the only place I have seen a mass shooting defined as 4 deaths, instead of 3. How convenient when the average deaths of shootings when an armed citizen is involved is less than 4.


26 posted on 12/27/2012 3:26:47 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: TigersEye; All

List of Mass Shootings or potential mass shootings stopped by armed citizens:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/mass-killings-stopped-by-armed-citizens.html


27 posted on 12/27/2012 3:37:27 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"Dalai Lama: “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” (Seattle Times, May 15, 2001)"

Thank you, Lama!

"So, I will find total enlightenment. I guess I've got that going for me."

(Something like that from "Caddy Shack".)

28 posted on 12/27/2012 3:41:12 PM PST by hummingbird
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To: marktwain

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/12/can_armed_citizens_stop_mass_shootings_examples_of_armed_interventions.html

Here is another rebuttal to the MJ article.


29 posted on 12/27/2012 3:43:48 PM PST by erlayman
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To: lacrew
...why do liberals (like those at Mother Jones) think I’m a paranoid freak if I want to do everything in my power to keep my name off that list

Because they would be happy to see you (and other "gun nuts" like you) on that list?

30 posted on 12/27/2012 3:43:55 PM PST by Gritty (Multiculturalism made us tolerate the intolerant.Now intolerance is annihilating tolerance-G.Wilders)
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To: neverdem

Mother Jones is loony lib crap. They are only “mass shootings” BECAUSE nobody stops them. When someone armed stops them they don’t proceed unchecked into “mass shootings


31 posted on 12/27/2012 3:43:55 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: marktwain

Thanks for the link. That is a good accounting to have at hand.


32 posted on 12/27/2012 3:45:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem

Even if true, it matters not one iota to me. My interest is in protecting myself, my family, and my property.


33 posted on 12/27/2012 3:47:29 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: neverdem

Don’t forget the recent mall shooter that killed himself after he saw a CC holder drawing down on him. Then there was the guy that had to run 1,000+ feet to get his gun and get the drop on the shooter at a college out in TN (I think) a couple years ago. Of course, there is the all time favorite of the armed impromptu posse of Texas boys with deer rifles that helped pin down and take out Charles Whitman back in the early 1960’s.

Go back a century or more and most all the bad guys got taken out with the trash by John Q. Public.


34 posted on 12/27/2012 3:47:36 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: neverdem

Unarmed civilians have stopped just as many elephant rampages in malls as armed civilians have, therefore, guns aren’t necessary. /s


35 posted on 12/27/2012 3:48:03 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: neverdem
Don't bother to try and reason or give substantiated facts to a liberal regarding guns. There is NO argument you can give them that will make them face the truth and stop leading with their bleeding hearts and peace rhetoric.

I've been arguing this point since I was in my teens in the 60's and said to a peacenik hippie: "If you came across a thug in an alley and he had a weapon and you had a weapon, would you actually lay yours down first hoping he would do the same?" The dipshit said, "Yes, peace brother."

From that day on I knew there are some people who just don't deserve to live and I'm ok if they just die yesterday (we all do). Even with their best of intentions, their rhetoric and behavior embolden the bad guys against the rest of us who would defend our lives, our family, our friends and our Country.

Liberals, socialists, Marxists, and communists are a bain on civilization as we have seen and still seeing. Imperialists were just as bad, but those days are long past except for parts of Africa. Now it's not so much about conquering, but about ideology and who gets what (not too far from the communes of the 60's). There are countless books with millions of pages that have said what I just expressed above. But then I'm not a scholar, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn.

36 posted on 12/27/2012 3:49:05 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: Yehuda; All

Two things about the Mother Jones “study”. They do not count a former police officer or an off duty police officer as an “armed citizen”, when in fact, they are functionaly the same; and they make no mention of the fact that nearly all the mass shootings occured in “gun free” zones.


37 posted on 12/27/2012 3:55:30 PM PST by marktwain
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To: erlayman

The Slate article is mild rebuttal. They miss several events. Better than nothing, I guess.


39 posted on 12/27/2012 4:05:24 PM PST by marktwain
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To: neverdem

How are “Law Abiding Armed Citizens” supposed to stop these shootings if they cannot bring their guns into these gun free zones...?


40 posted on 12/27/2012 4:07:55 PM PST by GraceG
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