Posted on 12/27/2012 2:48:21 PM PST by neverdem
A chaotic scene in August at the Empire State Building put this starkly into perspective when New York City police officers confronting a gunman wounded nine innocent bystanders.Armed civilians attempting to intervene are actually more likely to increase the bloodshed, says Hargarten, "given that civilian shooters are less likely to hit their targets than police in these circumstances." (Dr. Stephen Hargarten is a source cited in the Mother Jones article.)
It makes more sense edited that way with respect to the NYPD's Annie Oakleys.
Mother Jones sounds as trustworthy as ACORN. The moonbats and BS media are out in force.
Armed civilians stop mass shootings before they happen, therefore Mother Jones doesn’t define it as a mass shooting and doesn’t count it. Nice circular reasoning they have. No wonder no one (other than libtards) take MJ seriously.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2972735/posts
Nearby thread about the death of the officer who stopped the UT Tower sniper attack in 1966. More than 30 years ago, and not a civilian with a gun, still — a mass shooting which was stopped because a good guy had a gun. It bears mention.
Mother Jones is a far-left propaganda rag that never tells the truth. Their writers are frequent guests on MSNBC, which should tell you what lying scum they are. And if a “mass shooting” is stopped before it happens, is it still a mass shooting? Of course not.
Mother Jones will now criticize CCW holders for not stopping ALL mass murders.
There was the Clackamas Mall shooting a week or two ago stopped when a dad pulled his weapon and the shooter saw it and ran, then killed himself.
Many years ago (7?) there was a guy that did the same thing at a mall in Tacoma, Washington. Except he pointed his gun and told the shooter to stop, the shooter shot him (is now paralyzed) and then ran off and hid and killed himself. (Like I tell my kids - never be talking when you should be shooting!)
Is it True Armed Civilians Have Never Stopped a Mass Shooting?
Well Duuuuugh mass shootings always happen in gun FREE zones..
You know when cops are not around..
Dalai Lama: “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” (Seattle Times, May 15, 2001)
Not true as shown above.
And the number of mass shootings stopped by gun control?
Zero
There was an incident in a church a few years ago, in which a CC holding woman stopped the gunman.
I think there was a video just a few weeks ago of an incident in a mall.
This claim is laughable on its face. If a civilain stops a mass shooting from happening...well....it isn’t a mass shooting, now is it. So it doesn’t count using their logic.
And why concentrate on ‘mass shootings’. What about solitary self defense? In the last two years in Topeka, there have been at least 3 robbery attempts and home invasions that ended up with a dead criminal....instead of a dead law abiding citizen. And talk about deterrent, one of these was during a liquor store robbery. That store won’t be robbed again. Another one was, though...resulting in the death of the clerk.
Our DA (who is a grandstanding democrat I don’t normally care for) is a gun owner (he got caught accidentally on purpose trying to smuggle a pistol into the courthouse). And, quite frankly, he is letting people freely defend themselves....he NEVER prosecutes the shooters in these incidents, much less investigate the legality of ownership and other circumstances. We have 13 murders a year in this town...why do liberals (like those at Mother Jones) think I’m a paranoid freak if I want to do everything in my power to keep my name off that list.
Exactly - if I wanted instructions on selecting prime bud or how to roll a tight doobie, then Mother Jones would be my first choice of source material. On self-defense matters, not so much...
How do you prove a negative? An armed civilian stops a gunman after he shoots one person. Had the armed civilian not been there, who is to say the gunman othewise would have shot 5, 10, 20, or more persons?
If civilians were armed, there wouldn't be any mass killings by an armed killer. The NRA "Armed Citizen" has presented many instances where an armed civilian has prevented or ended assaults by bad guys.
That is the devastating problem. There’s endless videos on liveleak.com and other sites of legal shots. They sometimes get the bad guy and sometimes don’t. But if someone is stopped it doesn’t make the news. Same as a plane or bus crash. It makes the headlines when it happens, not when something goes right.
They not only should not be trusted, they should be shunned ~ and shunned hard!
You know what the Amish do if the kid is deselected and he doesn't want to leave the farm ~ he leaves!
The cop Huston ? died today.
Mother Jones is one of the biggest lefty rags in existence. Facts? Don’t look there.
(2) The incident took place during rush hour outside the Empire State Building. There were easily several thousand people within range of the rounds that were fired.
Only one civilian was actually hit by a fired round, and many of those rounds were fired running at a moving target as the police tried to corner a psychotic murderer.
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