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Obama NOT Offering 'New' Fiscal Cliff Proposal, Could Demand Up-Or-Down Vote On Plan
Business Insider ^ | 12/28/2012 | Brett LoGiurato

Posted on 12/28/2012 1:41:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Contrary to reports earlier in the day, President Barack Obama is not offering a "new" proposal to avert the year-end fiscal cliff during a meeting at the White House today.

Rather, Obama is reiterating previous positions on income-tax rates and other components of the cliff, Reuters reports.

He will ask Congressional leaders at the meeting for a concrete counterproposal. If there is none, he will ask for an up-or-down vote on his plan in Congress.

At 3:10 p.m., Obama began his meeting at the White House with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

The meeting comes after a frantic day in fiscal-cliff negotiations on Thursday, during which reports of a new offer from President Obama to Senate Republicans was quickly shot down by the White House and Democratic aides.

Boehner also called the House back for a rare Sunday session. Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said last night that Boehner plans to push his message that the onus is now on the Senate.

"Speaker Boehner will attend a meeting with congressional leaders at the White House, where he will continue to stress that the House has already passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff and now the Senate must act," Buck said.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; fiscalcliff; obama
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1 posted on 12/28/2012 1:41:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Back to the golf course.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 1:50:05 PM PST by Argus
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To: SeekAndFind

I would prefer to go over the cliff rather than dance to Obama’s tune. He is the one bankrupting America. The GOP don’t have to help him!


3 posted on 12/28/2012 1:50:39 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: SeekAndFind

One proposal, with the same two predications - raise taxes on the top two brackets, to punitive levels, and give the White House unilateral authority to raise the debt limit at his discretion.

Nothing is changed. To give in on this is to hand the matches and flame accelerant to the avowed arsonist.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 1:50:45 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: SeekAndFind

good! I hope he throws a hissy fit and makes a big ass out of himself and still go over the cliff.

What a joke he is


5 posted on 12/28/2012 1:50:56 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (reasonable gun control is hitting what you aim for)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Demand” all ya want, Barqy.

We know, really we do, that you WANT the “cliff”, you want to bring the country down.

It’s very hard for most people who are not attuned to accept that, but maybe, maybe, eventually they’ll see the truth.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 1:51:32 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

No sweat—It’s only “the rich” that will be hurt when the country goes over the cliff, right?


7 posted on 12/28/2012 1:51:52 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Der Fuehrer wants to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM the United States. You think he wants to make a deal?


8 posted on 12/28/2012 1:51:52 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: SeekAndFind

The champion of the “middle class.”

So we’re all rich now, even the fools who thought they were going to get more free stuff now get a tax tack hammer to the teeth.


9 posted on 12/28/2012 1:54:01 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course there is no “plan” just positions on a couple issues.


10 posted on 12/28/2012 1:54:15 PM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

A real leader brings people together to accomplish things, not break them apart. Obama is an epic failure.


11 posted on 12/28/2012 1:58:53 PM PST by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

Heads he wins, tails we lose....................


12 posted on 12/28/2012 1:59:52 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger

The REAL hope is that Obama goes off a cliff......


13 posted on 12/28/2012 2:02:17 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama and the marxists screwed this pooch, let them figure out how to unscrew it.

Go over the cliff and no extension of the unemployment and no increase in the debt limit. Shut down non essential government services.

Once a proper budget has been submitted by the administration we can start to discuss which non essential services we want to bring back online and which should be discontinued. No more pork barrel, green projects, foreign aid, or other wasting of the people's funds.

14 posted on 12/28/2012 2:05:26 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: alloysteel

“Nothing is changed. To give in on this is to hand the matches and flame accelerant to the avowed arsonist.”

You got that right. I dare say that it’s to hand a communist a flamethrower to thoroughly and quickly destroy and dispose of this Republic.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 2:05:59 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Starboard

Failure is defined by goals. His goal of bringing this country to its knees while the GOP gets the blame is his goal.

He is laughing at the GOPe because they are doing all the work for him. He has not missed one tee time or talk show due to having to work overtime to bring the greatest nation ever to its end.

Boehner and McConnell are his personal useful idiots.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 2:06:44 PM PST by nomobs
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To: SeekAndFind

How can he ask Congress for an up or down vote on his ‘plan’? Wouldn’t they have to write a bill first? Throwing the Constitution out the window and using new rules has me all confused.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 2:09:54 PM PST by sheana
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope Boehner goes straight to the press and tells them that ultumatums aren’t negotiation and won’t work.

If Obama persists with his classless demeaning behavior toward Republicans (a certainty) Boehner should cancel the SOTU address. PLEASE!


18 posted on 12/28/2012 2:10:01 PM PST by Ford4000
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To: traditional1

No chance of that. The MSM will catch him like a mosh pit....................


19 posted on 12/28/2012 2:11:00 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: John W
"Of course there is no “plan” just positions on a couple issues."

Maybe some useless White Papers issued...

That would be really helpful./sarc

20 posted on 12/28/2012 2:11:27 PM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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