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1 posted on 12/29/2012 8:49:06 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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Give him all the tax hikes he wants ,, deny any cuts .. in taxes or spending,, do it by simply taking a 4 year vacation ,, not one repub in the house to vote on anything ,, not even where to go out to lunch! .. get on TV daily while the whole thing crashes and burns and explain why it’s crashing,, sure the repubs will be ridiculed .. I don’t care. The repubs don’t represent me ,, haven’t since 1994.


2 posted on 12/29/2012 8:55:55 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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And Boehner will be reelected as Speaker - so much for the worth of the GOP.
3 posted on 12/29/2012 8:58:19 AM PST by Truth29
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5 posted on 12/29/2012 8:59:03 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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"many Republicans"

It wouldn't take "many" Republicans, since there are 193 'rats, and 6 Republicans who didn't sign the tax pledge. And then there's Boehner. But the Republicans don't even need to go that far, they just need to pass a bill that exempts the lower income brackets from the tax increase. The Reps should want to distance themselves from the coming tax increase. The Obamacare taxes, the likely cutbacks in hours b/c of the 30 hour Obamacare threshold, the increase in payroll & self-employment tax, the increase in Social Security payroll tax, the increase in the Medicare tax, and the increase in health insurance premiums should see paychecks shrink in January no matter what they do.

http://www.atr.org/taxpayer-protection-pledge

7 posted on 12/29/2012 9:12:46 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Don't care, my congressman is TEA (TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY-get it?) Party and will never vote for any tax increase and will never play SOCIALIST CLASS WARFARE games!

Just hope he ain't alone in standing on conservative principles no matter what.

15 posted on 12/29/2012 9:27:00 AM PST by Happy Rain (Outlawing firearms because of Adam Lanza would be like outlawing free speech because of Bill Maher.)
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And if (or more likely, when) this scenario plays out, the Democrats will have effectively severed the Tea Party from the Republican Party, and they will SAIL TO VICTORY in the House in 2014.

...the Republicans are a bunch of IDIOTS for allowing this. They have a very strong hand, but their metrosexual advisers simply won’t tell them that.


20 posted on 12/29/2012 9:39:00 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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"As for spending cuts, particularly in entitlements, some Senate Republicans say they will press for those in January or February, during the coming battle over raising the nation’s debt ceiling.  They believe that fight will give them leverage to extract real concessions from the White House and Democrats on spending.  It’s not entirely clear why they believe that so strongly; Republicans will certainly take a beating in the press if they appear ready to push the nation toward default to win unpopular cuts"

Here we go again.

21 posted on 12/29/2012 10:00:20 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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The GOP seems to have the same “ideals”/goals as the leftist Commies - they just won’t admit it until the time is ripe to enslave us all.


23 posted on 12/29/2012 10:24:10 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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Face it folks; no politician in either party thinks we can ever balance the budget again. If they did they would not be engaged in bitter battles about how to shave a mere $200 Billion off a deficit that totals $1002 Billion. What about the fiscal cliff which both sides fear like it was Armageddon? It only reduces the red ink by $464 Billion leaving a hole of more than half a Trillion dollars. If cutting spending and increasing revenues enough to reduce the deficit to $538 Billion will crash the economy and send us all to financial ruin how in the hell can we ever get it to zero?


32 posted on 12/29/2012 11:05:19 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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I’m sure they’ll work something out. Meanwhile, I celebrate grid-lock, frankly. If Obama and the Senate cannot get any of their pet projects funded, then Checks and Balances is truly working. O’s already a Lame Duck, though he can strut all he wants about ‘winning big,’ he has no power.

That will look like gridlock in Congress, but that’s fine. ‘Getting things done’ will only be O getting his way. I’m all for the Party of No!


34 posted on 12/29/2012 11:16:06 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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I expect the shenanigans in DC to end badly for all Americans - far more badly overall than the economic devastation from this particular tax increase (which, like all tax increases, will be passed on to the middle class).


35 posted on 12/29/2012 11:27:52 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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No one wins.


37 posted on 12/29/2012 11:35:52 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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The GOP could bring the house into session around noon on 1 Jan after all the tax rates have gone up on all the people. They could then pass a bill that:
- Restores the Bush tax rates on every one making less than $250K.
- Replaces the Bush tax rates on those making more than $250k with a rate half way between the Bush rates and the Obama/Clinton rates.

The net result is every one gets a tax cut and Obama gets a tax increase on the rich.


40 posted on 12/29/2012 12:28:57 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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If the cutoff turns out to be $500,000 the Repubs will have succeeded in saving those in the $250-$500,000 from hikes.

That's a little something.

But no spending cuts is very nasty.

41 posted on 12/29/2012 12:36:43 PM PST by what's up
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So a deal will most likely be done. But the bottom line is that the fiscal cliff fight will not end happily for Republicans. They will have given in on what was an article of faith — that taxes should not be raised on anybody, poor or rich — in return for essentially nothing.

So the GOP will commit party suicide?
Okay...

I hope a viable new party for conservatives can emerge from the ashes in time to try to rebuild a decent new nation. Persoanlly, I think it's way too late. Our land mass is going to end up like some combination of Mexico and Russia (after the collapse of the Soviet Union) and it's all downhill from there. Maybe there can eventually be some secession, with the former America breaking up into a few smaller groups of states, and then some good old-fashioned Balkanization... Whatever.(shrug)

I'm old, and glad I grew up when I did. I do mourn for my children (and now I have grandchildren!) because they will never truly understand what America was. Oh well.

Gone Galt,
LH

43 posted on 12/29/2012 12:57:44 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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The Republicans will roll over and let Ubama and the rats bankrupt yet another generation of Americans (this time our great-grandchildren) so that the Republicans can have the honor of being blamed for both raising taxes AND pushing granny off a cliff with spending cuts while the rats get to confiscate yet MORE money from productive, taxpaying, traditional American families that they can use to continue buying the votes of their growing moocher base.

That's some great work right there, GOP.

"NOW, you're negotiating!"


52 posted on 12/29/2012 4:59:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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