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To: i88schwartz

It is first and foremost, a protection FROM government, period!

One only need review the Declaration of Independence and the words “.....when in the course of human events .....that it becomes necessary to overthrow......etc.”

The men that crafted the Declaration and the Bill of Rights INCLUDING the Second Amendment knew oppression, knew sacrifice and knew what they wanted to prevent in future. They were inspired by God and resolute in their intentions and affirmation of our God-given rights.

I will not give up what has been given to me by God and affirmed to me by our Consitution. Ever. Not ever.


2 posted on 01/04/2013 11:24:42 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Heard a guy on the radio today discussing the 2nd. He pointed out that Hitler was elected and then began his march towards ternary
He also talked about the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto who knew the government was coming for them but picked up what ever arms they could find and held off the Germans and killed quite a number of them. His point was that citizens should be armed.
11 posted on 01/04/2013 11:53:14 AM PST by reefdiver
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To: Gaffer
It is first and foremost, a protection FROM government, period!

One only need review the Declaration of Independence and the words “.....when in the course of human events .....that it becomes necessary to overthrow......etc.”

The men that crafted the Declaration and the Bill of Rights INCLUDING the Second Amendment knew oppression, knew sacrifice and knew what they wanted to prevent in future. They were inspired by God and resolute in their intentions and affirmation of our God-given rights.

I will not give up what has been given to me by God and affirmed to me by our Constitution. Ever. Not ever.

Very well said & I agree completely.

25 posted on 01/04/2013 12:21:46 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Gaffer
“.....when in the course of human events .....that it becomes necessary to overthrow......etc.”

Come on, Gaffer. A two second google search would have pulled up the correct verbiage from the Declaration.

43 posted on 01/04/2013 2:48:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gaffer

When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another ...

(shh - my cousin many generations removed wrote it :-)


46 posted on 01/04/2013 3:10:10 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Gaffer
I just rewatched "The Pianist" tonight. As I was watching it one thought kept running through my mind... IF the Jews and Polls had had GUNS they could have DEFENDED THEMSELVES and not been led like sheep to the slaughter. Instead, they would have had a FIGHTING CHANCE to DEFEND THEIR LIVES AGAINST EVIL FORCES AND PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENTAL POWER WHO SLOWLY BUT SURELY USED THAT POWER TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF THE JEWS RIGHTS ONE AT A TIME BY PASSING "LAWS" THAT TURNED THEM INTO SOCIAL OUTCASTS AND PARIAH CRIMINALS IN THE MINDS OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY MEN WITHOUT ANY CAUSE OR JUSTIFICATION. THESE SAME COUNTRYMEN AS A DIRECT RESULT OF GOVERNMENTAL PROPAGANDA BECAME THEIR ENEMIES AND WILLINGLY WORKED HAND IN GLOVE WITH THE Nazi "AUTHORITIES" IN ROUNDING THEM UP AND KILLING THEM.

YES, I am YELLING because the parallels regarding what is taking place right now throughout America as a direct result of Obama going to Connecticut, bathing in the blood of those murdered children and now, wearing it as a mantel of "righteous justification" for heading up a crusade to take guns away from LAW ABIDING AMERICAN CITIZENS under the guize of doing it "for the children" and to "protect Americans from ever having to have this happen again" with the help and full court press of the MSM and the liberal Democrats and "progressives".

Obama and his PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENTAL POWER ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE SAME THING TO US HERE IN AMERICA BY SLOWLY BUT SURELY EXPLOITING THIS TRAGEDY AND USING IT AS AN EXCUSE TO EXERT THEIR POWER TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF THE RIGHTS OF LAW ABIDING AMERICAN GUN OWNERS RIGHTS ONE AT A TIME BY PASSING "LAWS" THAT WILL TURN THEM INTO SOCIAL OUTCASTS AND PARIAH CRIMINALS IN THE MINDS OF THEIR FELLOW AMERICANS WITHOUT ANY CAUSE OR JUSTIFICATION. THESE SAME COUNTRYMEN AS A DIRECT RESULT OF GOVERNMENTAL PROPAGANDA WILL BECAME THEIR ENEMIES AND WILLINGLY WORK HAND IN GLOVE WITH THE "AUTHORITIES" IN ROUNDING THEM UP, OSTRACIZING AND SEGREGATING THEM FROM THE GENERAL POPULATION AND (if they get their ultimate wishes fulfilled) KILLING THEM.

Obama and his MSM allies are actively working to successfully accomplish these goals by "STEREO TYPING" American "GUN OWNERS" AS IGNORANT, UNSOPHISTICATED, UNEDUCATED "ANGRY WHITE HICKS" WHO MISGUIDEDLY CLING TO THEIR GUNS, RELIGION AND ANTIQUATED VIEWS of American "patriotism". AS SUCH THEY ARE BEING PRESENTED AS HIGHLY SUSPECT... POSSIBLE THREATS, "ENEMIES OF THE STATE" AND POTENTIAL "TERRORISTS" (what other reason would they have to need "evil guns," especially when Obama's "caring government" is there to protect them. This is ultimate motivation behind the call to PUBLISH THE NAMES, ADDRESSES AND CONTACT INFORMATION FOR LAW ABIDING American CITIZENS WHO OWN GUNS. THIS IS THE REASON WHY ILLINOIS WANTS TO PASS LEGISLATION OUTLAWING "ALL MODERN WEAPONS"... Obama, his evil minions within and without government want to disarm you so that you cannot PROTECT yourself, your family, your property from THEM, THEIR "PEEPS" and the plans they have for your life and future.

Today, in America, white, men and women, older adults, evangelical Christians and conservatives of all colors are the new Jew. If you want to see what is in store for these American citizen "undesireables"... just watch "The Pianist", replace the Jews in the story with the above group of American citizens and you will see what lies in store for Americans once they have been disarmed by their "loving", "caring", governmental "OBAMA OVERLORDS". All of this is happening before our very eyes. The above goals were the catalyst for their failed "Fast and Furious" ploy. The tragedy that unfolded is CT is a thousand times more effective in their accomplishing their goal of using every trick in their political arsanal to "legally" disarm Law Abiding Americans in order to put them in the position where they can no longer protect themselves from everyone and everything... even THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT AND AS A RESULT ARE THEN AT THEIR "MERCY" TO BE TREATED AND MISTREATED IN ANY AND EVERY WAY THEIR GOVERNMENT DEEMS " NECESSARY".

If you don't believe this scenario all you have to do is answer one question: Why didn't Obama go to Fort Hood TX, bath in the blood of those 30 murdered American military personnel and 30 wounded Americans who were killed and maimed by a MUSLIM TERRORIST who was killing them in the name of "Allah" and why isn't Obama now, wearing it as a mantel of "righteous justification" for heading up a crusade against "militant Islam", Muslims and Islamic countries that are in order to do everything in his power to protect American citizens doing it "for the children" and to "protect Americans from ever having to have this happen again" with the help and full court press of the MSM?

Answer: Because it does not fit HIS ABOVE ULTIMATE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES TO DEMONIZE AND DISARM YOU SO THAT YOU ARE AT HIS AND HIS PEEPS "mercy".

"The Pianist" = lessons from history, watch, what happened to the Jews learn and act because in Obama and the liberals eyes we are the "New Jews", unless you want to one day find yourself pulled out of a line at the will of their master, told to lie down on the ground to await your turn to be shot in the head. It is coming, ...If they get their way.

62 posted on 01/04/2013 11:35:25 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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