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Obama may Ignore the Debt Ceiling and Suspend the Constitution: Obama and the Debt Ceiling
The American Thinker ^ | January 5, 2013 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 01/05/2013 5:50:18 AM PST by Moseley

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To: cotton1706
Lawlessness begets lawlessness.

Chaos is only good for a tyrant if they can control it.

61 posted on 01/05/2013 7:59:12 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Moseley

Section 5 of the 14th amendment states:
“The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.”
The President is given no authority to over ride the Congress.


62 posted on 01/05/2013 8:01:31 AM PST by MCF
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To: Mouton
I want the states to reform a new constitution, not the jerks in DC

I don't trust them either. Can you imagine the pressures they would be under to ensure loopholes and ambiguity?

I do agree we need to make some tweaks, like term limits and the progressive tax system as well as the other things you mentioned. But we're taking about the major things that give to politicians the power they have over the people. No way they're ever going to give that up in a million years.

The problem is the people who run the system, not the system its self.

I don't have the answer how to fix it other than flushing DC and putting in trustworthy people, and I think we all know what that would take.

63 posted on 01/05/2013 8:05:43 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: ILS21R

You can see why he was Reagan’s favorite president.


64 posted on 01/05/2013 8:06:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ILS21R

Yet Lincoln is regarded as among the greatest Presidents though.


65 posted on 01/05/2013 8:07:32 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ILS21R

So war , genocide , burning of Atlanta, burning of the South mandated by Constitution or tyranny by Lincoln?


66 posted on 01/05/2013 8:09:06 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: 3catsanadog

>>Where is this picture from?<<

Jon McNaughton’s “The Forgotten Man”.


67 posted on 01/05/2013 8:11:10 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: ez

“So why wouldn’t this be liscense for 10 million Americans to march on DC and remove 537 individuals from their stations?”

I’d like to see it happen Jan. 20th so we could throw the baby out with the bathwater.


68 posted on 01/05/2013 8:12:49 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Moseley

Obama can’t ignore the debt ceiling unless Congress lets him. If he tries, the House can simply “zero out” the budgets for every cabinet level department except Defense and let Obama explain to his supporters why their Federal jobs are going away. The Left was deathly afraid Newt Gingrich was going to do this back in early 2005.


69 posted on 01/05/2013 8:12:52 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Democrat_media

>>So war , genocide , burning of Atlanta, burning of the South mandated by Constitution or tyranny by Lincoln?<<

Yes.


70 posted on 01/05/2013 8:13:05 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Biggirl

>>Yet Lincoln is regarded as among the greatest Presidents though.<<

There were other ways and he would have been just as great.


71 posted on 01/05/2013 8:15:21 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Don_Ret_USAF

USAF, I think you are correct. When theconstitution is suspended, the window opens for all sorts of activities that were considered illegal because of someone’s understanding of the constitution........BATF comes to mind. I will be suspending my aversion to firearms previously considered illegal.

On a side note, some red state folks might start a more perfect union of their own.


72 posted on 01/05/2013 8:18:40 AM PST by UnRuley1
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To: cotton1706

I want to buy new furniture for my living room. I only have 50 dollars available credit left on my mastercard cuz I just got done refurnishing the dining room. I’ll just give the bank a call and tell them I want more credit, another $20,000 should do it. And I can take my time paying it all off, cuz when my unemployment checks run out Mr. Obama will extend my unemployment and offer welfare, and when that all runs out I can just file for bankruptcy. Hey, I got a free phone, maybe I can ask for a new car next. Wow, this is so much easier, and more fun, than trying to live within a budget. I run out of money, I can just ask for more! /sarc


73 posted on 01/05/2013 8:18:57 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (Reality ruins everything.)
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To: grumpygresh
In the meantime, the GOP should put out their very best Constitutional experts and explain to the public that zero is assuming unconstitutional and dictatorial powers and that henceforth, any spending or legal actions by the executive have no basis in law, and citizens would be under no legal obligation to follow them.

I agree 100%. Give the Sunday talk shows really something to talk about. Make it a topic the LSM will have to discuss.

74 posted on 01/05/2013 8:43:23 AM PST by Walmartian (I'm their leader. Which way did they go?)
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To: trebb

Incorrect. Suspending or ending the Constitution does not mean monarchy it means totalitarianism of whoever has the power, which would NOT be decided by a probative legislative body. Hence the pressing move to take firearms.

It also means, that if any of these “representatives” is heard to be spouting this, they need to be contacted and reminded that, this removal of the Rule of Law by our consented Constitution— would no longer be by our consent. Therefore there are no constraints on the publics actions against them— any and all actions. That is to say the “representative” would no longer have ANY position of legal authority no matter what they try to do to say they do.

Deo Vindice.


75 posted on 01/05/2013 8:56:38 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ILS21R

I don’t buy it from you. It’s tyranny .


76 posted on 01/05/2013 9:03:43 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: MustKnowHistory

“When, when, when will the still-rational-left (if there are any remaining) see the overreach?”

There are none remaining and they will NEVER see it.


77 posted on 01/05/2013 9:27:39 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Biggirl

“Yet Lincoln is regarded as among the greatest Presidents though.”

I’ve been having second thoughts about that lately...


78 posted on 01/05/2013 9:34:19 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Moseley

It’s a fallacy to believe that any of our “public servants” give two damns about us or the constitution. They are all members of the most sophisticated criminal organization ever assembled. False hope empowers them and provides them cover.

Nothing short of torches and pitchforks will stop these thugs from robbing us blind. Until this happens nothing will change.


79 posted on 01/05/2013 9:55:01 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: grumpygresh
GOP leadership also needs to have a chat with top military brass and remind them of their Constitutional oath.

They don't even keep their own oath.

80 posted on 01/05/2013 10:00:10 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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