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Obama could sidestep Congress on gun control
radioaustralia.net.au ^ | January 7, 2013 | Lisa Millar

Posted on 01/07/2013 7:05:22 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

US president Barack Obama is reportedly considering implementing the most comprehensive gun control measures seen in decades.

US president Barack Obama is reportedly considering implementing the most comprehensive gun control measures seen in decades.

A task force led by vice-president Joe Biden is reportedly considering wide-ranging proposals going well beyond simply reinstating a ban on assault weapons and high capacity ammunition.

The Washington Post reports that a national data base tracking gun sales, mental health checks, and background checks are all on the table.

And in a move that is set to anger opponents of gun control, the taskforce is reportedly looking at measures that can be implemented by the president's order without the approval of Congress.

The White House is understood to want swift action while the public remains outraged over the deaths of 20 children and six adults in the Newtown school shooting in Connecticut last month.

Some reports suggest Mr Obama will have the proposals on his table within weeks.

Democrat congressman Chris Van Hollen says any approach the Obama administration takes must be comprehensive.

"The argument against gun safety provisions is always because it doesn't solve everything we shouldn't do anything and I don't subscribe to that," he said.

"I believe we need a comprehensive approach, we need to look at all the different elements here and just because a particular effort won't prevent something in one particular incident, doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything that might help in other incidents.

"Right now you can be on the terrorist watch list, you can be prevented from boarding an aeroplane, but you can go down the street and buy a semiautomatic assault weapon."

With the new Congress sworn in just days ago, 10 different bills are already on the table dealing with gun laws separate to Mr Obama's working group.


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To: BCW
use this crisis to take away more freedoms - but let’s open the flood gates on abortion - alcohol abuse - legal marijuana usage that will results in more vehicle deaths and other criminal activity

So only certain problems should be used to take away more freedoms, eh?

41 posted on 01/07/2013 10:07:34 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obama is certainly the most evil person ever to set foot in our White House. What worries me though is that enough real (parasitic but not fictional or dead) Americans voted for him that the far left’s fraud could push him over the top. America is in incredible trouble. If Obama acts on these silly trial balloons, the only good news is that it will trigger a final conflict between those who support freedom and the far left. I will not be cheering for Obama’s side when that happens.


42 posted on 01/07/2013 3:28:24 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This man IS working for an entity other than we the people.

We should persue that course. Find out who he is working for, and what the goal really is. I believe it is the total destruction of this Nation as a World power, and making it so costly as to recoup our status that the entity this man is working for would be free to manipulate the World the way they want it.

Who, what is behind the NWO? We know their tool to take out the World is the U.N., and their tool to take us out is Obama, but who are they, and why are we apparently so damned helpless?

Soros is a player, so I don’t need that from anybody. Maurice Strong is a player as well. Who else, and what do they call themselves? I know what I call them.


43 posted on 01/07/2013 8:40:19 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This could very well trigger a second American civil war as Patrick Buchanian warned about.


44 posted on 01/07/2013 8:41:48 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This man IS working for an entity other than we the people.

We should persue that course. Find out who he is working for, and what the goal really is. I believe it is the total destruction of this Nation as a World power, and making it so costly as to recoup our status that the entity this man is working for would be free to manipulate the World the way they want it.

Who, what is behind the NWO? We know their tool to take out the World is the U.N., and their tool to take us out is Obama, but who are they, and why are we apparently so damned helpless?

Soros is a player, so I don’t need that from anybody. Maurice Strong is a player as well. Who else, and what do they call themselves? I know what I call them.


45 posted on 01/07/2013 8:43:06 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: RC one

How does one disregard it? It will be in effect until a higher or different authority repeals or undoes it.


46 posted on 01/07/2013 8:57:32 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I can still hear the echos of some particularly obnoxious loudmouths here who were telling us that Romney was as bad as Obama. Really? They posted the same graphics and crap over and over and over and over. Well, they got your way. Of course Obama is going to sidestep Congress. The Constitution means nothing to him.


47 posted on 01/07/2013 9:04:46 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He takes everything else he wants via executive order.

Why wouldn’t he take this?


48 posted on 01/07/2013 9:13:34 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

post 47 should have been === they got “their” way. I was not referring to you, TJ.


49 posted on 01/07/2013 9:14:02 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Chuzzlewit

“if so, then watch it get the fast track to the SPOTUS... no way it would pass muster”

John Roberts can not be trusted with a sack of rocks
much less one or any of our constitutional rights.


50 posted on 01/07/2013 9:29:00 PM PST by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Where is the line drawn between a president MAKING law via Executive Orders, and what an Executive Order is SUPPOSED to be?

Surely what the Leftists have in mind for firearms would have to cross that line.

IMO, The President has been out of Control with Executive Orders, probably since Bill Clinton. Our President isn’t supposed to be an Emperor. I think it’s time for a Constitutional Amendment to bring the Executive Branch down to Earth, if the courts won’t do it!


51 posted on 01/07/2013 9:29:32 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: PghBaldy

How about this for a start: don’t register anything with anybody at any time.


52 posted on 01/07/2013 10:17:37 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: apillar

Cocaine is not registered for easy tracking. Anyone with a registered weapon will be fined if they don’t meet the deadline.


53 posted on 01/08/2013 4:34:15 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Cocaine is not registered for easy tracking. Anyone with a registered weapon will be fined if they don’t meet the deadline.

Which is why none of my guns are registered and never will be no matter what law they pass....

54 posted on 01/08/2013 5:37:51 AM PST by apillar
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To: Jacquerie
Who will be our Patrick Henry?

Ted Cruz?

55 posted on 01/08/2013 5:44:49 AM PST by jersey117
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To: apillar

In this day and age, the so-called legal system has morphed into a weapon of abuse to manipulate good citizens for the gain and power of corrupt politicians. This is why we have selective enforcement of the law and the rule of law has become a joke. 10 million criminal aliens run free while citizens the ruling class progressive thugs view as problems are stuffed in cages like animals and have their property jacked in the name of justice. Organized crime has simply taken over as the majority of decision makers and US citizenship has been grossly devalued.


56 posted on 01/08/2013 6:44:45 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: KoRn

In this day and age, the so-called legal system has morphed into a weapon of abuse to manipulate good citizens for the gain and power of corrupt politicians—Bo is the head of the snake. This is why we have selective enforcement of the law and the rule of law has become a joke. 10 million criminal aliens run free while citizens the ruling class progressive thugs view as problems, are stuffed in cages like animals and have their property jacked in the name of justice. Organized crime has simply taken over as the majority of decision makers. US citizenship has been grossly devalued, by Alinsky pigs and their allies.


57 posted on 01/08/2013 6:47:28 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: MHGinTN

You forgot the dyke who was behind jacking our healthcare decisions.


58 posted on 01/08/2013 6:51:44 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: BCW

BTT


59 posted on 01/08/2013 7:08:20 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: apillar
I'm sure they have a database on who owns what. If you purchased from a gun store you have to fill out a ton of forms.

Steps to locate your guns:

Contact manufacturer and force them to give up lists on who they shipped guns to. (This info is required by law)

Contact retailer and force them to give up lists on who they sold guns to.

Contact owner (you) and threaten them until they comply. This is what other dictators have used.

The loophole for owners is that they can get rid of their property as they see fit. You can put a blowtorch to all your weapons (hypothetically) and no one can say anything about it. “Sorry Mr Confiscator, I destroyed/threw away that weapon two years ago”

I think that all that is needed is if you want to buy a weapon that you should be required to show proof that you attended a firearms safety course.

60 posted on 01/08/2013 7:28:26 AM PST by USAF80
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