Posted on 01/07/2013 7:40:26 AM PST by DogByte6RER
lol. At least TV would be watchable again, and they’d actually have to write an actual storyline occasiional.
The mentally ill have been with us since the beginning of time. Schools for thousands of years and guns for hundreds of years.
Young people going into schools for the express purpose of mass murder is new. It stated around the same time mind altering drugs hit the culture. When I was young - many years ago - we had kids bring their guns to school for ‘gun club’. No one ever thought they would shoot other students.
Psychoactive drugs are a likely culprit in these mass murders - more so than guns. The same kind of liberals who gave us ‘global warming’ are raking in the profits by drugging the kids. Notice how newspapers are picking up on this story? Dems are feeding them this one... I don’t believe we have the understanding at this point in our history to be mucking with brain chemistry. This needs to be looked at...
Recent studies show anti-depressants seldom work... and when they do it’s slightly better than a placebo effect... It’s time to stop letting liberal define reality. They’re way to self serving.
The mentally ill have been with us since the beginning of time. Schools for thousands of years and guns for hundreds of years.
Young people going into schools for the express purpose of mass murder is new. It stated around the same time mind altering drugs hit the culture. When I was young - many years ago - we had kids bring their guns to school for ‘gun club’. No one ever thought they would shoot other students. And they didn’t.
Psychoactive drugs are a likely culprit in these mass murders - more so than guns. The same kind of liberals who gave us ‘global warming’ are raking in the profits by drugging the kids. Notice how newspapers aren’t picking up on this story? Dems aren’t feeding them this one... We don’t have the understanding at this point in our history to be mucking with brain chemistry. They know it. We know it.
Recent studies show anti-depressants seldom work... and when they do it’s slightly better than a placebo effect... It’s time to stop letting liberal define reality. They’re way to self serving.
I disagree with you on most points.
I am comfortable disagreeing with the half of America that think it permissable to kill unborn babies so adding you to the list won’t cost me one moment of sleep.
And your bringing the Koran is ironic since it is used to recruit violent ,mostly black, inmates while they are incarcerated .
40 years ago my neighbors boys found and read their father’s stash of crime novels glorifying mafia-types.
The father also unthinkingly bought a number of cheap semi-auto .22 rifles. for his sons.
And one morning father was shot to death in his bed and mother shot to death coming to investigate.
Even if ,as you say, the seed for violence is already there, we DON’T have to water and fertilize it by glorifying gratuitous ,bloody violence.
Children imitate. It is how much learning takes place.Adults should not set bad examples.You don’t feed a child’s body poisonous food,why would you want to poison his mind ?
You cannot play in a dung heap and not get dirty.
Glorifying evil through books,movies, and games isn’;t going to improve any society.
Remember the First Admendment is not a blank check.
It was intended to protect political speech.
NOT yelling “Fire” in a crowd just to watch people panic nor to tell lies with impunity.
And how in the world such things as beingm naked in public is free speech is a real puzzle.Of course what is the norm? in San Francisco wouldn’t be the norm very long in Fargo,North Dakota!
Funny how those drugs are seldom mentioned because it would expose the whole sham of drugging America boys through ADHD and all the other lucrative schemes.
My ex not only akllowed but rented for her young teenage son,all those “Hellborn Hellraiser” -type movies ,saying he knows they are not real.
That son then insisted on keeping his room darkened with heavy curtains,bought a huge Bowie-type knife and adopted the long dark clothing of the characters.
His mother declared I had no right to tell or discipline HER child by previous marriage.
Son ended up fathering illegimate baby before high school graduation and other problems.
Tell me again such “entertainment” has no effect.
In this case,an overly permissive parent trying to be her childrens’ friend instead of parent was a huge mistake.
Porn made me a sex maniac.
I watch it morning, noon, and night... at work, in the bathroom, showering, driving.... my theme song should be: This.
You are entitled to disagree with me until the cows come home but you are not entitled to your own facts.
And the facts are that just as my statement showed, there are not millions of Gamer killers. There are not millions dead by their hand.
For every example of some screwed up kid that went out and slaughtered his family, I can find you one of a screwed up religious zealot that killed theirs in a fit of holy rage. So do you really want to go there?
Do you really want the Bible banned because it drives Westboro to the crap it does or the doomsday cult types who cannot wait for the rapture?
I don’t and that’s exactly where your line of thinking leads.
If you do not want your family reading watching or playing media with violence, that is your choice. But do not tell me that I can’t read, watch pr play exactly ANYTHING because you don’t like it.
We have already shown by the evidence that millions of crazed killers are not running around invading dreams wearing knife gloves and slashing naked teenagers.
We see no evidence that millions have taken up plasma rifles in the 30 watt range and laid waste to entire swaths of humanity. There are no fields of dead bodies near any given gamer convention and public libraries the world over are not scientifically proven to be breeding grounds for serial killers.
That is a fact. That is reality. And you simply have exactly NOTHING to counter it. Because there IS nothing to counter it.
Throughout history there has been violence in literature. Where are the calls to ban Hamlet and Paradise Loot? Where are all the Rich European society types coming out of operas with knives rioting?
No matter which angle of a near infinite variety you come at this from, it all comes down to one thing.
You are using the exact rationale as the gun grabbers. You are claiming that inanimate objects are ‘causing’ death. A loaded gin pointed at your head with the safety off will never, EVER shoot you of it’s own accord.
A book, video game or movie will likewise never stab you, shoot you, rape you or pound you into dust.
They all require people exercising free will.
The existence of the gun, if your ‘logic’ holds true is every bit as damaging as Hellraiser. Instead of Pinhead tempting someone to hell onscreen, it sits there as a symbol of power and death. each making the decision for us to kill.
So lump me into whatever category you like. But I am not the one placing responsibility everywhere it belongs. And I am perfectly comfortable with that.
Don’t be so modest LaZ,
You ARE Pornography!
Women (and some men, not that there’s anything wrong with that) hear your name and collapse in a fit of bliss at the mere sound of it ;)
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Paradise LOST
Placing blame everywhere BUT where it belongs.
“Of course what is the norm? in San Francisco wouldn’t be the norm very long in Fargo,North Dakota!”
Exactly, which is why the federal government refuses to put federal limits on obscenity. There’s no way to create a common standard that would work everywhere.
So, as it stands, the 1st Amendment protects the right of people to make violent movies or video games. Why should we fiddle around with that, when we have no evidence it would accomplish anything?
“Tell me again such “entertainment” has no effect.”
I never said it had “no effect”, just that the effect is obviously not to turn everyone who sees that type of thing into a mass murderer. A Big Mac has an effect on your health, but a Big Mac does not create obese people, otherwise everyone who ate a Big Mac would be obese. Same principle.
“In this case,an overly permissive parent trying to be her childrens’ friend instead of parent was a huge mistake.”
Well, there you go. The real problem was, as usual, with the parenting, or lack thereof. Campaign against that, and leave the rest of us to play our silly video games or watch our silly movies, if we are responsible enough to handle it.
The inanimate object ,i.e. gun or knife is not quite the same as the inanimate object book,video game or movie.
Books,movies, and video games are designed to elict or induce a particular state of mind.Some hope to provoke laughter, some tears, some rational thought,others religious fervor, belief in fantasyy, or even books and movies which attempt to provoke readers and viewers into actions from stocking up for disasters to protesting in the streets.
Were books,movies, and even video games not influencers of behavior the communists would not care much about them.
This is where you (and those taking your position are missing the point.
There is a world of difference between a cause and an influence.
Every thing in existence influences us. It works to shape our understanding of the world around us. Both good and bad.
To ‘cause’ something is nothing of the sort. You can step on a dog’s tail and ‘cause’ it to bark. The bark is a natural reaction to the pain the dog feels when you step on it’s tail.
To say VGs ‘cause’ violence is likewise a specific thing. Last night I played Fallout 3. I shot and was shot at by a group of raiders, which I then killed in large numbers.
Today when I got up, I did not grab a 308 and start plinking all the meth heads in my neighborhood.
The game, filled with violence and murder, shooting, blood guts gore and veins sticking outta’ my teeth did not CAUSE me to do anything at all.
Because I was taught morality/right/wrong at an early age.
Now stop dancing around the subject and give me a clear and fact filled explanation as to why it is that there is an absence of dead bodies numbering in the millions from all the psychos that grew up playing violent video games and watching Freddy Kruger movies.
In the presence of morality, there is no desire for 99% of people to do violence. If there is a problem it is because millions of handwringers want to ‘blame’ anything but the fact that when God, prauer, discipline and the like were banned, people lost the constraints that were previously there.
So while no ban of games or movies will do squat (just as in Gun control) putting the blame on the actual problem (th ability to distinguish right from wrong) will.
But no one wants to argue about God and morality. Much easier to go along like a liberal and invent a scapegoat to blame.
Can’t upset our friends and neighbors. We won’t get invited to parties.
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