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Until the few remaining sane adults get a handle on THIS problem, nothing else we do will turn the tide of millions of new little socialists they're loosing on the nation.
1 posted on 01/08/2013 11:10:28 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

Yup. I voted in our local High School. I live in a rock sold GOP bastion. Classes were going on and some girls walked by screaming “Obama”. Sad.


2 posted on 01/08/2013 11:13:47 AM PST by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny.)
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To: Dick Bachert

That is positively chilling. And very illuminating.


3 posted on 01/08/2013 11:19:13 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Dick Bachert

This country’s public schools are the cesspool depots of socialist propaganda, run by the largest socialist organizations, the teachers’ unions.


4 posted on 01/08/2013 11:22:26 AM PST by NY Cajun
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To: Dick Bachert

Public school is child abuse.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 11:27:00 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Dick Bachert

After what happened at Sandy Hook, parents really must start to think about putting their kids where their kids will be safe.

Private schools have armed personal, home schools are safe, but public schools have shown themselves to be places that are very unsafe for kids.

Look, I know that I am no smarter than our members of Congress, I know I am no smarter than Barak Hussien Obama, I know that most governors are every bit as smart, if not smarter than me, as are the majority of members of state Legislatures, Sheriffs, Police, Courts and Media. So, it only stands to reason that if I am smart enough to know that by making schools gun free zones, by making it illegal for anyone who works for the schools to be armed, it is only inviting criminals and evil doers, so are they.

Yet, the politicians, the police, the media, the courts, all have done their part to make sure that when a crazed killer wants to attack a school there will be no one there to interfere with his, her, or their evil deed. These sheriffs, those police, courts, politicians and media are just as guilty, just as responsible for the deaths of those twenty 5 and 6 year olds as are the killer(s). And I for one will no longer hold them harmless.

But, what about you, where do you draw the line? Where do you say “ENOUGH!”? How many more kids have to die before you realize that the politicians, the police, the media, the courts don’t care about the kids, they are using them for political gain.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 11:28:45 AM PST by Matthew10 (I learned war by reading 1 Samuel chapter 15.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Breaking up the left’s monopoly of the education system from Kindergarten through graduate and professional schools should be the number one long-term priority of the conservative movement. That is where the war will be won or lost.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 11:31:36 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Dick Bachert

Remember that “Body by Fisher” emblem that GM used to put on their junkmobiles?

It’s just about as trustworthy as “certification” of an individual whose education wouldn’t allow them to dig ditches a century ago.

New idea: You want to teach children science? Try using someone who has real degrees - in some science. You want history? How about someone who has actually majored in history from a real college (e.g., NOT Harvard/etc.)?

Yes, I know there are many great teachers out there (”teachers”...not “educators”).

However, none are great because of the junk which was force fed to them when they were being “certified”.


9 posted on 01/08/2013 11:32:55 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Dick Bachert
I have come to believe that the communist indoctrination centers called public schools ARE the root cause of most of our problems today.
10 posted on 01/08/2013 11:34:43 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: SoftballMominVA; verga; shag377

Here we go again..................


13 posted on 01/08/2013 12:34:41 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Dick Bachert

My Son will graduate from a Christian high school this May. He’s been in a Christian school since kindergarten. Christian schools, in my experience, aren’t a panacea. It’s a real meat and potatoes education. Limited foreign language classes. Limited art classes including music. Shop and auto shop? Nope. His math teacher for algebra and geometry has a math degree from a great private college. She couldn’t teach fish to swim. We had to send him to Sylvan to help him with math. Athletics turned out to be horrible. The coaches all want to coach somewhere else, so they focus on one kid to try and get him a college scholarship so they can add that to their resume. The best grade school basketball players in my son’s class have all quit playing basketball because the team was so messed up. The school board selects the new board members. They are so good, the school will begin bankruptcy proceedings at the end of this month. There are good points. A troublemaker is gone right away. They do have chapel every week. No homosexuals. We paid property taxes to support the public schools and we paid tuition for him to attend a private school. We also had to pay Sylvan to bring him up to standards in math.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 12:37:00 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Dick Bachert
Until the few remaining sane adults get a handle on THIS problem, nothing else we do will turn the tide of millions of new little socialists they're loosing on the nation.

Public schools are deconstructing America. Most of this nation's problems are incubated in the public school system.

16 posted on 01/08/2013 12:39:46 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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The Prussian system is designed to destroy Christian Ethics and condition children to engage in group think and be afraid to be different than the “herd”. They implant moral relativism “feel good, do it” which destroys character and perseverance.

Schools now conditions children into dependency in all aspects of life and collectivism—group math, group everything. (They are conditioned into slavery-—being told what to think and what to do for eight hours a day). Individualism is demeaned-—thinking differently (un-PC) is demeaned. Institutionalization of children teaches them an artificial reality——one which removes them from Natural Laws and Common Sense. They can’t “think” the way Lincoln did who was principled and NOT a GROUP THINKER-—which is the only thing public schools produce.

They are put with their own age group, so the smart are kept down—and the others feel dumb. One Room school houses let children work at their individual rates where they had older, more mature behavior to emulate. Taking children away from family, removes mature models of behavior= and the public schools expose them to horrid, immature behaviors of peers that could never happen in home without TV. Inculcating immaturity is the most prevalent activity of public schools.

They destroy smart intelligent thinkers outside the box-—on purpose. Isolate them—target them—humiliate them— and drug them. Even expert, good teachers can not protect the children from being laughed at—and the system is set up to humiliate those who do not conform to group think.

No sane person should put any child in the inhumane Prussian system designed—as Pastor Bonhoeffer’s mother stated—to break the independence and morality of the children. She refused to let her kids set into them until they were 8 years old-—so the State would have a harder time destroying their family morality since Germany took God out of their schools way earlier than the USA.

We need government out of education-—they will only make slaves for the State (JS Mill). We need local control of all education (Constitutional)—and burn all public school curricula and get back the original McGuffey Readers’ content. (The Classics and the Bible-—where wisdom, reason and logic-—and an understanding of Human Nature occurred— and Virtue was instilled into the children like our schools did prior to that sick watered-down, stupid curricula of John Dewey (the Fabian Socialist).


18 posted on 01/08/2013 12:42:32 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Dick Bachert

You might enjoy:

Against School*
John Taylor Gatto**
How public education cripples our kids, and why

http://www.wesjones.com/gatto1.htm

From the same author:
An Underground History of American Education:
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/ughoae.pdf

Infiltration of the education system was one of the main goals of the cultural marxists.


20 posted on 01/08/2013 12:58:41 PM PST by khelus
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To: Dick Bachert

The “public school”, including the “charter school”, is BY FAR, the largest, most expensive, most subversive, and most destructive entitlement program in the country.

The “public school” is better understood as the “government school collective”.

It is silly to imagine that you can fix the public schools, because the very concept itself is collectivist.

Any child that comes out of the government school collective with their moral compass and common sense intact does so in spite of the government school indoctrination, not because of it.

If you want to win the culture war, have lots of children (see my tagline) and homeschool them or form your own school cooperative with your church or synagogue and like-minded friends and relatives.

Nobody loves your children more than you do.

Nobody can teach your children better than you can.

Nobody knows your children better than you do.

Your children would love nothing better than to be taught by you, if you start doing so before they are corrupted by the government school collective.

It is hypocritical for you to submit your children to an authority with whom you fundamentally disagree. And your children will know it.

If you have children, make whatever sacrifices you must to get them out of the public schools.

DO NOT FEED THE BEAST!

Especially not with your own children.

And DO NOT TAKE GOVERNMENT “EDUCATION” MONEY!

He that pays the piper calls the tune, and that’s especially true for any government entitlement program.


23 posted on 01/08/2013 1:25:34 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Good memory:

From this thread:

Peter Hoaglund - former Nebraska Senator and Humanist member of the Nebraska Board of Education said this in 1983 … “Fundamentalists have no right to indoctrinate their children in their beliefs. We are preparing their children for the year 2000 and life in a global one-world society and those children will not fit in!”

John Dunphy in The Humanist 1983 said “The battle for man-kind's future must be won in the classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as proselytizers of a new faith that will replace Christianity.”

I also found this video, which has content referencing the quote you mentioned.

26 posted on 01/08/2013 1:59:03 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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You are right. Dr. Sileven was right. The judge even called Dr. Sileven from the jail one night to his chambers attempting to get him to compromise. The pastor refused. Most or all of those families left Nebraska for a while in a kind of exile, as the education authorities knew who they were, and would have kept after them, perhaps even taken the children into custody.

Decorated veteran Tim Lee, who lost both legs in Viet Nam, went to Faith Baptist Church, in full-dress Marine uniform, with pastors from around the country, and personally defied the authorities, cutting the state's padlock off the church. Brother Lee and the pastors went inside and held a worship service.

Public pressure prevented the authorities from stopping Brother Lee and the pastors, and things began to change in Nebraska.

28 posted on 01/08/2013 2:21:34 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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“... And because you are educating children outside the public school system, in the world we’re designing for the future, THEY WON’T FIT IN!”” ( from the article)
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Dick,

I am very concerned. Our nation's socialist-entitlement, single-payer, and compulsory schools are becoming more prison-like every year. Since the latest shooting it will only get worse. Children are now being **arrested**, handcuffed, and taken to the police station for behavior that was once seen as a learning opportunity and handled quietly within the school.

If the government treats children like prisoners, the risk is that we will raise up a population of citizens who are **comfortable** being prisoners of the government.

What will be the consequences for the future of freedom in our nation?

Why aren't conservatives so BLIND to the danger of government schooling. It must be shut down.

40 posted on 01/19/2013 5:28:26 AM PST by wintertime
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