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To: Nervous Tick
And the 4 out of 5 that weren’t criminals: what about them and their rights?

Only criminals are arrested. Non-criminals are sent on their way.

7 posted on 01/09/2013 9:27:35 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

>> Non-criminals are sent on their way.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but in this country, don’t law-abiding citizens have the right to go about their business without interference from the police?

In other words, why should a law-abiding citizen have to put up with this crap? So that one in FIVE can be taken downtown?

How is this any different from stopping EVERY car on the interstate to find a small percentage of drunks? Or keeping EVERY law abiding citizen from owning an assault rifle because some tiny percentage MIGHT commit a crime with one?

“Guilty until proven innocent” is NOT the basis upon which our civil rights rest, FRiend.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 9:33:53 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Sorry, the actions of the NYPD run afoul of a SCOTUS decision from the 80’s concerning similar actions by CA LEO’s:

Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352 (1983)

Might want to check that out.


13 posted on 01/09/2013 10:00:30 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Zhang Fei

Sorry, but I’m having difficulty understanding your logic on this. It is well established that I have a right to walk down the street without being randomly harassed by the police unless that have solid reason to believe I committed some crime. How can you justify such a blatant disregard for several constitutional rights for every innocent person who is stopped? Do you also support TSA searches? What if they start setting up on the roadsides and stopping people? I’m not trying to be a smart-ass, I really would like to know the logic behind this manner of thinking because it goes against everything we know as freedom.


16 posted on 01/09/2013 10:07:03 PM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Zhang Fei

Non-criminals are sent on their way AFTER being treated like criminals. 80% of the time they’re stopping innocent citizens, that is wrong.


41 posted on 01/10/2013 9:45:36 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Zhang Fei
Only criminals are arrested. Non-criminals are sent on their way.

Sorry FRiend, but that has a strong whiff of boot-licking to it .. "We're only going to search your house for {phobia du jour} and if there's nothing there you have nothing to worry about"

49 posted on 01/10/2013 10:50:12 AM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Zhang Fei
"Only criminals are arrested."

If you consider blatant violation of the constitution to be a criminal act, it sounds as though the criminals got away in every one of these frisks.

53 posted on 01/10/2013 12:04:40 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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