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It’s Not Just Your Guns; It’s America We’re Losing
Absolute Rights ^ | January 9, 2013 | Tim Young

Posted on 01/11/2013 4:42:09 AM PST by IbJensen

This might come as a surprise to a lot of you, but I’m not a gun person… never have been, never will be. And you can stop reading right there and be angry, but you know better… so read on. The one thing that I have always been and always will be, is a freedom person.

I believe in all of the freedoms and liberties given to us by the Bill of Rights… something that very few Americans currently understand.

One group of people who completely understand our rights are the President of the United States, Barack Obama, and the elected officials of the Democratic Party. That understanding should scare you… because they fully know the freedoms we were given when the Bill of Rights and Constitution were written, and have actively worked to take them away.

Today, Vice President Joe Biden announced that the President would unilaterally act using an executive order, SOMETHING HE PROMISED NEVER TO DO WHEN HE RAN FOR OFFICE FOUR YEARS AGO, to limit your Second Amendment rights.

He is attempting to act on the tragedies of the past year to limit the rights of the republic to be free and protect itself… The Second Amendment, which, for those of you have forgotten, says the following:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

This Amendment was written because our founding fathers wanted us to have the same footing as the government… to have the same weapons and defensive capabilities so that our own leaders wouldn’t take advantage of our people. It’s a “when all else fails,” clause.

America has internally become weak because of a long time of peace. Somewhere in between the Civil War and now, we have forgotten what it was like to fight for our rights. We have taken for granted the fact that we have been able to work together to accomplish great things in not only America’s history, but the world’s. When you get comfortable and settle in to your every day life, you let your defenses down… that’s when things go horribly wrong.

What’s happening now is a result of us being fat and happy. We haven’t been threatened on our home turf in over a century… but that doesn’t mean that we couldn’t be again.

What the President is doing is taking away that final “when all else fails,” ability to protect our rights. The people of this nation have spoken, and stupidly, they have chosen to take hand outs and continue to be fat, happy, and lazy…

We brushed over the fact that only months ago, we were fed lies on Benghazi, not to cover up what happened there, but in an attempt to begin to limit our First Amendment freedom of speech. Remember the outcries of the Democrats when they were blaming a video for the attacks… we were told that we needed to start to scale back what we could talk about to protect ourselves. That didn’t work…

So when they failed we were hit with another tragedy in Connecticut, and they have moved on to trying to take your guns… If that doesn’t work, there are a pile of other rights that they can try to take, and I’m sure they will…

They will continue to do so until we finally say “ENOUGH!” But let’s face it, America said “FORWARD!” in the last election…

This isn’t the America that the Founding Fathers intended to have; this isn’t the America that I was brought up to believe in; this is a new America, with less freedom than we have ever had. An America where people can live without working and an America where the stupid prevail.

It’s time to act folks. It was time to act 4 years ago, and it was time to act in November, but that didn’t work either.

Call your representatives in Congress, call Attorney Generals in your home States, and call your friends and neighbors to do the same.

You’re about to finally and definitively lose your freedoms… and you’re about to finally and definitively lose your America.

The time is now to be smarter than they think you are.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; evilobamaregime; guncontrol; obama; obamaisamonster; remakeamerica; secondamendment; takeamericaback; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Mobilemitter

What will most likely happen, is any second civil war will result in the break-up of the USA.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 6:14:50 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

“Down the road”? I think not. We are in the misdest of a Civil War, Good vs Evil, Right vs Left. Anyone who does not believe this is a fool.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 6:16:18 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: bert
I would love to know how many death threats he receives on a daily basis.

He tries to pull this stunt, and I'd bet there will be even more - and they'll have to be taken more seriously.

23 posted on 01/11/2013 6:18:15 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Biggirl

“Down the road”? I think not. We are in the midst of a Civil War, Good vs Evil, Right vs Left. Anyone who does not believe this is a fool.


24 posted on 01/11/2013 6:18:15 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: IbJensen

On another note:

Obama signs protection bill for former presidents

Published January 10, 2013

| Associated Press

Washington – President Obama has signed into law a bill granting lifetime Secret Service protection to former presidents and their wives.

The measure Obama signed Thursday applies to presidents elected after Jan. 1, 1997, specifically Obama and former President George W. Bush. It reverses a 1994 law that ended Secret Service protection 10 years after a president leaves office. Under that law, the Homeland Security secretary could extend such protection on a temporary basis.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/10/obama-signs-protection-bill-for-former-presidents/print##ixzz2HfzLHu46


25 posted on 01/11/2013 6:24:31 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Coldwater Creek

This all reminds me of from a historic perpective of the couple of years leading up to the “shooting war” of the first civil war.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 6:28:07 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Lazamataz

no.

There were plenty of people on here and other websites and boards that claimed ideological purity by either not supporting Romney or just throwing a vote away on a candidate that had no chance to win, just to send a message.
Well, the message was sent, loud and clear. Too many people on our side were none to enthusiastic in opposing Obama because Romney would “destroy the party”. Well, you know what, Obama is destroying the country with the aide of people that sat on their duffs because Romney was a mormon, his hair was too nice, he appeared to polished, he didn’t attack Obama enough, he was too rich..

So no I won’t shut up.

People need a daily reminder of how idiotic it is/was to sit at home and do nothing when we had the opportunity to end this full out assault on freedom and liberty. More of us were pumped up to buy a friggin chicken sandwich than we were to elect a man that would lead us in a much different direction.

I fear 2014 will be too late.

If you don’t like what I have to say, fine but please don’t tell me to stop.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 6:29:40 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Lazamataz
Absolutely. Well said. How utterly sad that people forget this, even people who should know!
28 posted on 01/11/2013 6:38:36 AM PST by Obadiah (It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.)
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To: newnhdad

Okay,

Have fun with that.

Let me know how that works out for you, as far as saving America.

Do.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 6:39:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Biggirl

Sorry for all the repeats!


30 posted on 01/11/2013 6:51:40 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: broken_arrow1
I agree. Instead of civil war talk, I think we should start advancing the notion of secession for states that may be open to it. There's no way conservatism and adherence to the Constitution can coexist with the progressive agenda. It's time for a divorce.
31 posted on 01/11/2013 6:52:09 AM PST by hdbc (1/20/13 End of an Error.)
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To: newnhdad

EXACTLY! WELL SAID!


32 posted on 01/11/2013 6:55:08 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: IbJensen
Wow, what an epiphany! I would've never guessed that we're losing the country!

Do I really need a sarc tag?

33 posted on 01/11/2013 7:09:16 AM PST by Artcore
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To: IbJensen
I believe in all of the freedoms and liberties given to us by the Bill of Rights

Given? FAIL.

Won't own a gun. FAIL. (Every true American should).

Pretty much ignored the rest.

34 posted on 01/11/2013 7:20:58 AM PST by barefoot_hiker
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To: KeyLargo

Fatuous, narcissistic, sociopathic Obama doesn’t fear for prior presidents. He fears for his own feckless traitorous neck.


35 posted on 01/11/2013 8:03:36 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Secret ‘no-fly zone’?
Pilot seeks answers after arrest

Video

Pilots returned, one by one, to Bermuda High Soaring in Jefferson, S.C. By about 5 p.m. on July 26, 2012, the lift had died and everyone had returned to the gliderport—everyone except Robin Fleming. No one remembered hearing from Fleming since 1:30 or 2 p.m., and Jayne Ewing Reid, co-owner and chief tow pilot of the glider club and commercial operation, was worried.

She called pilots who lived in the region and asked them to try to contact Fleming on their handheld radios. She flew the club’s Piper Pawnee in the direction of Fleming’s last known radio call, but found no evidence of the missing glider or its pilot.

“This is when you get that feeling that something’s not right,” she said. Fleming always called if he landed out. Worried that something had happened to Fleming, an avid glider pilot and instructor at Bermuda High, Jayne Ewing Reid and business partner Frank Reid decided to file a missing airplane report. Neither suspected that Fleming was in trouble with the law.

Fleming, 70, had been arrested for breach of peace after flying his Rolladen-Schneider LS8-18 sailplane noiselessly over the H.B. Robinson Nuclear Generating Station at an altitude of 1,518 feet msl—by his estimates, about 1,000 feet over the power plant’s dome—on his way to search for lift at nearby Lake Robinson.

No airspace restrictions were printed on sectional charts; no notam marked the area off-limits. When a woman at Hartsville Regional Airport relayed over the Unicom that law enforcement wanted him to land, he had flown to that airport and landed, greeted by a swarm of law enforcement vehicles.

Nonetheless, Fleming spent the night awake in a cell with 11 other inmates. The next afternoon, still in custody, he discovered the details of the charges: “flying very close to the nuclear plant dome in a ‘no fly zone,’” “escalated a multi-jurisdictional call out to a homeland security situation,” “ordered several times to land,” “causing the disturbance throughout the community.”

He finally left the detention center 24 hours after his arrest, exhausted and eager to clear his name. The charges were dropped the next month, but now Fleming wants to make sure no other pilots are subjected to a similar ordeal...

http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2013/130110secret-no-fly-zone.html?WT.mc_id=130111epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan


36 posted on 01/11/2013 9:04:07 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Lazamataz
The BoR gives us .... nothing.

Not entirely true: The Bill of Rights gives us legal guarantees of rights.

37 posted on 01/11/2013 9:14:05 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: newnhdad
There were plenty of people on here and other websites and boards that claimed ideological purity by either not supporting Romney or just throwing a vote away on a candidate that had no chance to win, just to send a message.

Ok, you have to understand that a rejection of Romney is not a plea for ideological purity -- but a plea against homogenous ideology as Obama.
They are both socialists, and Statists.

Indeed, the primaries and Republican National Convention were dirty -- with "democrat-style" manipulations:
The teleprompter incident, where the 'result' of the votes appeared before the vote had finished.
The bus-driver incident, where an entire delegation was forced to miss the rule-change vote.
The proposed rule changes themselves, which showed the statist/totalitarian heart of the GOP's elite.
The retroactive rule-change in the primaries to deny Ron Paul supporters delegates (and gave them to Romney) because they successfully rules-lawyered delegates.

Are those the sorts of things we want in our leadership? Are those things even what "conservatism" is about?
If by 'conservatism' you mean "keeping things the same", then yes, it is what conservatism is about.

Well, the message was sent, loud and clear. Too many people on our side were none to enthusiastic in opposing Obama because Romney would “destroy the party”.

That was doomed to happen: the republican party stood for nothing, and so fell.

Well, you know what, Obama is destroying the country with the aide of people that sat on their duffs because Romney was a mormon, his hair was too nice, he appeared to polished, he didn’t attack Obama enough, he was too rich..

None of that is why I did not vote Romney; I did not vote for Romney because he is the same as Obama: a socialist. Ideologically the only difference is that Romney is a Fabian-socialist (incrementalism) and Obama is more of a holistic-actor.

People need a daily reminder of how idiotic it is/was to sit at home and do nothing when we had the opportunity to end this full out assault on freedom and liberty.

Really? When I was in the Army, in `08/`09, it was made perfectly clear to me that there would be no challenge of Obama's qualifications; this has been borne-out across the civilian-world as well. Those in power have no respect for the Law (see LTC Lakin's courts martial), and this will not likely change with mere elections. (Even if we got a 'god' President, the congress has no problem passing contra-constitutional laws [see the NFA and GCA], and the courts have no compunction against allowing it [see Wickard, Raich, Kelo, and/or Affordable Care Act]).

More of us were pumped up to buy a friggin chicken sandwich than we were to elect a man that would lead us in a much different direction.

NO! ROMNEY WOULD NOT PUT US ON A MUCH DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THE MOST HE WOULD DO IS MAKE SUPERFICIAL CHANGES: A KINDER, GENTLER (MORE ACCEPTABLE) TYRANNY.

If you don’t like what I have to say, fine but please don’t tell me to stop.

I've not told you to stop; but your whole argument for a socialist is disgusting.

38 posted on 01/11/2013 9:52:44 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“The writer’s lack of understanding of that most important, most fundamental, truth pretty much soured me on the piece by the second paragraph.”

He also wrote this:
“We haven’t been threatened on our home turf in over a century…”

Apparently he missed the World Trade Center, The Pentagon attack, and flight 93...


39 posted on 01/11/2013 10:05:44 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Biggirl

“This all reminds me of from a historic perpective of the couple of years leading up to the “shooting war” of the first civil war.”

Hmmm.... with the “gun controllers” taking on the role of “the new abolitionists”?

And, in the same vein, could the Supreme Court’s “Heller decision” become the Dred Scott of the twenty first century?

An interesting twist of history...


40 posted on 01/11/2013 10:17:28 AM PST by Road Glide
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