Ann Barnhardt over the edge (My Title)

http://www.barnhardt.biz/ ^ | 11 Jan 2013 | rey

[rey]

For those of us who were on the fence whether Ann Barnhardt was a taco short of a platter, here's the proof.

Seemingly she closed her brokerage business while having a sizable mortgage. The reason she claims to have taken this mortgage is to prevent some near-do-well from aborting her child. Predictably, this had not the desired effect; now there is just one more up and coming near-do-well in the world.

She continues to defend her actions despite clear evidence that she was manipulated by satan's spawn.

Sad...

[F15Eagle]

I think you mean “ne’er do well”.

That aside, ....

What?

I’m lost with this.

[rey]

Thanks for the correction.

If you are interested, go to the web site. She explains there how she, in an effort to prevent a woman from aborting her child, bought a condo from her. As best as I can figure, she rented back to her, though she never paid and Ann had to have her evicted. Now she is in foreclosure, largely because she is not paying her fed taxes.

[jobim]

Why so harsh? She claims she mortgaged her life to save a
child's life. Without being privy to all the details, on the
surface one can't summarily dismiss such a sacrifice,
at least if one claims to be a Christian.

[moovova]

I’ll be polite.

Leave Ann alone.

Any woman that would post a youtube video herself ripping pages out of the koran...pages that were bookmarked with slices of bacon...and then setting them on fire...has more balls than most men in this country.

Oh well, so much for being polite.

[Celerity]

I read it, and it makes clear sense to me. The Abortion thing is just weird.

She felt she was held hostage to the idea that someone kill their baby if she didn’t buy something. I mean, that’s a slippery slope - and a bit weird - But I can’t say that she’s a lunatic for it.

The mortgage thing is EXACTLY my predicament. I tried to sell before 2008 though. The owner of the loan was different than the collection agency. I understand why. It’s not fair, but I understand why. There are about 100 different processes in getting rid of a house that aren’t “fair” (I was billed $12,000 for house cleaning, for example. Billed on the day that I gave up the deed. The house wasn’t even vacant.)

I still find myself nodding my head in agreement with Ann. I would help her out in any way I could.

Her method of protest is even something that I too have joined her with. Starving the beast. You bet I do it.

My reasons are a bit different. And the reasons that I listen to her, Alex Jones, Jim Yeager, et al. I have seen things from our government and from banks that most people never will. I have worked in the industry, and I have seen enough to make me a believer. Let me tell you, in my experience, the Globalist Banking Maneuvers that Alex Jones yells about - Are all true. I have seen it. I simply don’t walk around telling people about it, because I feel a need to be reasonable when telling people ground-breaking stuff to retain their confidence in me.

If you see extreme things, and then say extreme things - you will be an extremist and called a nutjob. I chose instead to just protect my family, and help out my friends, and prepare for the coming storm. To give a hint: I’ve been doing it since 2002.

[Drango]

Without getting into the merits or pro/cons of the story...her defense reads like the “dog ate my homework” story.

[riri]

Some people can’t come to grips that the country is not there anymore.

[surroundedbyblue]

Your post = wow. God bless you.

[rey]

“Why so harsh? She claims she mortgaged her life to save a
child’s life. Without being privy to all the details, on the
surface one can’t summarily dismiss such a sacrifice,
at least if one claims to be a Christian. “

OK. I’m going to commit suicide due to my financial situation. Suicide is a mortal irredeemable sin in the Catholic church. Send me money now to prevent this.

See my point? You’d have to be a sucker of major league proportions to fall for this and a little off to defend such actions when they backfire.

It has been an issue on this site whether Ann is firing on all cylinders. YES, some of what she says is spot on. Heck, a broken clock is right twice a day. She does a little better than that, but in light of this, not much.

As far as harsh; Ann is pretty severe and engages in harsh name calling and foul inflamatory language and actions. What’s good for the goose. . .

[Daffy]

“For those of us who were on the fence ...”

Who is this ‘us’?

” ... whether Ann Barnhardt was a taco short of a platter, here’s the proof.”

Tell me, what is this ‘proof’ you speak of?

[Marathoner]

Any woman that would post a youtube video herself ripping pages out of the koran...pages that were bookmarked with slices of bacon...and then setting them on fire...has more balls than most men in this country.

What you said!

Ann may be a bit extreme for my taste at times, but I can't argue with the fact that this country has been taken over by a Marxist facist regime.

[rey]

“For those of us who were on the fence ...”

Who is this ‘us’?

” ... whether Ann Barnhardt was a taco short of a platter, here’s the proof.”

Tell me, what is this ‘proof’ you speak of?

Search this site and you will find on every posting those who wonder about her.

The proof, she has given a unsuitable mother money with predictably poor results and continues to defend her poor decision. Hey! Everyone screws up. She should simply admit it, but as she is likely delusional, she continues to believe she is acting on God’s behalf instead of realizing she has been manipulated by the devil.

[rey]

“Ann may be a bit extreme for my taste at times, but I can’t argue with the fact that this country has been taken over by a Marxist facist regime”

Who said she was wrong about Marxism? The point is she is off it. Does her defense make sense to you?

[PGR88]

I bought her house. I effectively ransomed the life of the child.

Easy solution. She should demand the child be handed over to her. Change its name to Andy Barnhardt Jr. and raise it as her own, in her own Dojo as the first of her own private army. Such things were once very common in China.....

[surroundedbyblue]

Get over yourself. Ann has more balls than any man I know, including those here on FR. What she did was nothing short of serving Christ and being an excellent witness for Him. You may say she was manipulated by the spawn of Satan, but last I checked, the child’s life was spared. So she’s actually living her faith, which is more than I can say for most people.

[Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey]

"Easy solution. She should demand the child be handed over to her. Change its his name to Andy Barnhardt Jr. and raise it him as her own, in her own Dojo as the first of her own private army. Such things were once very common in China.."

There ... fixed it ....

[Cyman]

This is one very brave, smart ,moral,patriotic,ethical and tenacious person that I would be proud to call a friend.

She has the exact qualities that are despised in today’s White House, the MSM and most especially in the Department of Justice.

[rey]

“the child’s life was spared”

I understand that, but if grows up to be a menace...

It seems to be our position on abortion and punishment to throw back the little ones and kill the big ones. I fail to see what was spared.

[JTHomes]

Ann is boldly taking steps the rest of us won’t yet. She won’t pay taxes to our tyrannical government, risking her remaining freedom. Or possibly forfeiting her mortal life for her principles. I’m not there yet, but her courage is inspirational and her logic and reasoned arguments about issues like SS, the Fed, abortion are sound. I won’t question her personal decisions to take action on those issues. What one might say is insane, others may take as the only morally defensible choice.

[backwoods-engineer]

Ann Barnhardt is a patriot, and a better Christian than many of us.

When was the last time you tried to ransom a child from being aborted?

[Truth2012]

Are you upset that she is harsh to Islamists and corrupt politicians?

[Daffy]

“she is likely delusional, she continues to believe she is acting on God’s behalf instead of realizing she has been manipulated by the devil.”

Quite a claim. You know this how? Do you have expert experience with delusion? Are you manipulated by the devil? Can you tell of MF Global (mentioned in the website)? Do you have expertise in real estate, money management, foreclosure proceedings? I know more about Ann Barnhardt than I know about anonymous you; why should anyone trust your judgment over hers?

Just wondering.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

She's not committing suicide, and she's not asking for money.

Seems you like to knock down straw men and then pretend it proves how smart you are.

[Revolting cat!]

near-do-well

Near? Almost do well? Success! Congratulations!

[Mr. Jeeves]

Ann Barnhardt.

Orly Taitz.

Alex Jones.

Ann Coulter.

There is something in our world view that scares the hell out of the Powers That Be, so they keep sending these types of media "sleeper agents" out to discredit us. I wonder exactly what it is...

[fish hawk]

I would not date her but I’d buy her ammo if she needed it.

[Revolting cat!]

Fortunately, these sleeper agents, “near do well”, which, alas, is not quite enough. Pathetic effort this time.

[fattigermaster]

A moot question, since he just proclaimed himself pro-choice. Post #19.

[Cincinnatus.45-70]

Ann Barnhardt is one of the most sane people in what is left of this country. If you don’t see that, I suggest some time for introspection might be due. Overdue.

[Lancey Howard]

Some people can’t come to grips that the country is not there anymore.

Precisely.
That reality sunk in slowly, but it sunk in none the less. I am pushing 60 now, and the proud America I grew up in is dead and gone, given away to the Democrat moochers and illegal hordes. Once I made peace with that reality, I was better able to take care of my family, hide and protect what I have earned, get beneath the radar of scumbag big government, and have some fun.

[Norm Lenhart]

Well considering many openly mocked people for sticking to principle during the election, they really shouldn’t be surprised everything went to hell due directly because of a lack thereof.

It was afterall, what logic dictated their stance would lead to.

Nor should we be surprised that many mock a woman for sticking to hers in this situation. People do not like admitting they are responsible for the situations they create. Much easier to self-justify their own lack of morality.

[Louis Foxwell]

Your comments have no value other than to demonstrate Anne’s raw morality. Just remember while you are defaming her that Jesus was similarly thought to be the spawn of satan. Not saying she is Jesus, just that you might cool your contempt with prayer.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

All were created In the image of God. She is going to hear “We’ll done my faithful servant.”
What will you hear?
Pray it’s not gnashing of teeth.

[Lakeshark]

Let's just charitably say the woman is a few cookies short...........I liked her tie........

[NTHockey]

Amen to that. Thanks for the post.

[LurkingSince'98]

just wow!

someone does something good and goes way out on a limb to save a baby from the treat of abortion and because she was had — that’s bad and proof of her what? insincerity? immorality? dishonesty? what???

your moral rudder just got washed overboard.

Lurking’

[LurkingSince'98]

hey Jeeves,

are you aware that Orly just got her case before the Supreme Court???

and somehow that is bad - she’s out there persevering and you behind you keyboard taking potshots.

your one real risk-taking *******.

Lurking’

[Celerity]

I read it, and it makes clear sense to me. The Abortion thing is just weird.

She felt she was held hostage to the idea that someone kill their baby if she didn’t buy something. I mean, that’s a slippery slope - and a bit weird - But I can’t say that she’s a lunatic for it.

The mortgage thing is EXACTLY my predicament. I tried to sell before 2008 though. The owner of the loan was different than the collection agency. I understand why. It’s not fair, but I understand why. There are about 100 different processes in getting rid of a house that aren’t “fair” (I was billed $12,000 for house cleaning, for example. Billed on the day that I gave up the deed. The house wasn’t even vacant.)

I still find myself nodding my head in agreement with Ann. I would help her out in any way I could.

Her method of protest is even something that I too have joined her with. Starving the beast. You bet I do it.

My reasons are a bit different. And the reasons that I listen to her, Alex Jones, Jim Yeager, et al. I have seen things from our government and from banks that most people never will. I have worked in the industry, and I have seen enough to make me a believer. Let me tell you, in my experience, the Globalist Banking Maneuvers that Alex Jones yells about - Are all true. I have seen it. I simply don’t walk around telling people about it, because I feel a need to be reasonable when telling people ground-breaking stuff to retain their confidence in me.

If you see extreme things, and then say extreme things - you will be an extremist and called a nutjob. I chose instead to just protect my family, and help out my friends, and prepare for the coming storm. To give a hint: I’ve been doing it since 2002.

[surroundedbyblue]

Ohhhhhhh I see. If the child saved from abortion were white, middle class, and enrolled in a fine private school, you’d be ok with that. But since the kid looks more like the son Obama never had, well, then it would’ve been better had Ann walked the other way & the mother carted off to the nearest abortion mill? Gotcha loud & clear.

Your moral compass is broken. Time for some introspection & heavy duty prayer, FRiend.

[Hot Tabasco]

Ann is boldly taking steps the rest of us won’t yet. She won’t pay taxes to our tyrannical government, risking her remaining freedom.

And how many other dumbasses are now sitting in prison for taking the exact stand?

She's a nut job, pure and simple and anybody here who actually supports her is a clear indicator of how far this site had devolved back to the days of Michael Rivero........

But with that being said, WHY AREN'T YOU AND THE REST OF HER SUPPORTERS FOLLOWING IN HER FOOTSTEPS? After all, you've now raised her up to Joan of Arc status and a martyr certainly needs faithful followers willing to suffer the same fate or they die for nothing........................

I know, I know, you got the job, the mortgage, the payments on the boat and the new truck to think about and the kid you're putting thru college.........

[Rusty0604]

I loved that! And she bookmarked the koran with bacon before burning it, then gave her address for anyone that wanted to come after her for doing it.

[rey]

So let me get this straight; a child is a child is a child. If she were saving taliban or al qaeda children from disaster it would be cool too. She gave money to a bad person to raise a bad child, where is the virtue in that?

[jobim]

I can boast absolute virginity in regards to Barnhardt, as I
don't know about her, so my comment can be seen as strictly
a response to a woman who put herself at financial risk
to save the life of a child. Now, whether that child would have
been born otherwise, neither you nor I know. So at least on the
surface, her action may very well be heroic, your comments about
her sanity notwithstanding.

[rey]

Fine, her heart was in the right place, but after realizing the mother is evil and is likely to raise an evil child, where is the virtue?

This does not mean I am for abortion, far from it, but if giving money to the poor, no matter their circumstance is right, then why not just pay your dang taxes? All she did was cut out the middle man. Big deal.

[surroundedbyblue]

Yes, a child is a child is a child. We are ALL created in God’s image. Where’s the virtue in your eugenics??

[BfloGuy]

Any woman that would post a youtube video herself ripping pages out of the koran...pages that were bookmarked with slices of bacon...and then setting them on fire...has more balls than most men in this country.

That video was what first made me aware of her. I admired her very much for that video.

But many of her subsequent statements have caused me to suspect that she really is a nutcase. Nutcases are often bold and, many times, they will agree in policy with us.

But, beware of nutcases.

[rey]

It is not eugenics. If the state gives money to crack smoking mothers who abort half their children, you cry foul. Ann does it and she is a hero. All she did was bypass the feds. Big deal. The only good was thta it was of her own free will and not through coersion.

We fire bomb Tokyo and Dresden and toast all sort of children and pregnant women trying to destroy an enemy, why otherwise aid a child of satan?

Aristotle points out in his Nichomachean Ethics that giving, charity and altrusitic actions are important, but only when rightly done. Giving a wino money to buy a drink is NOT charity, it is NOT virtue; and this is essentially what she has done.

Furthermore, she advocates the practices of Ann Rand (who was pro abortion and eschewed all form of charity). What she has done does not jive.

As another poster noted, she should have bought the kid out right or given the money to an anti-abortion group. At least it wouldn’t have furthered a low-life thief.

Bottom line, Ann made a mistake, as we all do, and will not recognize it. The Bible is rife with examples of people misled, she is simply another.

[Daffy]

“a martyr certainly needs faithful followers willing to suffer the same fate or they die for nothing”
May I suggest, you have a faulty understanding of martyrdom.

“She’s a nut job, pure and simple ...”
I wonder if that was ever said of Joan of Arc.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

Cast that stone, Rey. Cast it far, and hard.