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White House rejects debt-ceiling move
The Washington Times ^ | January 12, 2013 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 01/12/2013 3:56:35 PM PST by jazusamo

The White House flatly rejected Saturday the proposal for President Obama to bypass Congress in raising the nation’s borrowing limit, a day after the Senate’s top Democrats urged Mr. Obama to take that step.

“There are only two options to deal with the debt limit: Congress can pay its bills, or it can fail to act and put the nation into default,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said in a statement. “Congress needs to do its job.”

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, and other Democratic lawmakers wrote to Mr. Obama Friday urging that the president perform an end-run around Congress on the debt ceiling.

“We believe you must be willing to take any lawful steps to ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis — without Congressional approval, if necessary,” the four top Democrats in the Senate wrote.

But Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the top Republican in the chamber, said abdicating their authority to the White House amounted to “the Democratic leadership hiding under their desks.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: debtceiling; harryreid; kentucky; mitchmcconnell; nevada; obama

1 posted on 01/12/2013 3:56:50 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Or you and Dirty Harry can do YOUR job and cut spending!!!!!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/01/12/debt-star-federal-debt-increased-by-113-since-q2-2008-but-real-gdp-increased-by-only-2-6/


2 posted on 01/12/2013 3:58:44 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: jazusamo

BO has been very successful in blaming everything on Congress and escaping all responsibility of anything. Presidents before him were always blamed for Congress’s problems as being poor leaders.


3 posted on 01/12/2013 3:58:54 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: jazusamo
Sen. Mitch McConnell:... “the Democratic leadership hiding under their desks.”

Say, WHAT!?

It's a GREAT deal more than that. It's plunging a dagger into the Constitution!

4 posted on 01/12/2013 3:58:54 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: jazusamo
The Kenyan Kommie believes he will again 'own' the republicans in the upcoming debt ceiling fight.

Wonder why he thinks that?

Which begs the question - Republican leaders, do you have any pride at all?

5 posted on 01/12/2013 4:02:48 PM PST by skeeter
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To: C210N

Yep, I’d like to think this would put the screws to Dingy Harry and the Rats on cutting spending but it’s doubtful.


6 posted on 01/12/2013 4:02:57 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

“There are only two options to deal with the debt limit:”

There’s one more option. Cut the budget for EVERYTHING to the degree necessary to balance the budget. And yes, I mean everything...


7 posted on 01/12/2013 4:04:16 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: jazusamo

“There are only two options to deal with the debt limit: Congress can pay its bills, or it can fail to act and put the nation into default,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said in a statement. “Congress needs to do its job.”

Sounds good.

Start with a budget bill that is balanced to anticipated tax revenues, ONLY. No deficits.
Then, hand that over to the Senate.

Next, pass bills to rescind funding for the Departments of Education, Agriculture, HHS, Homeland Security, and Labor. That should free up enough to cover some of the debt currently on the ledger. Hand those over to the Senate.

Third, hit the news show circuit with every influential pubbie that can walk without assistance to get the word out that they’ve done their part, and it’s time for the Senate Demon-crats to step up and do theirs.

The left is going to skewer the right, anyway. At least get some mileage out of it, by doing the right thing for the nation.


8 posted on 01/12/2013 4:04:31 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: dandiegirl

The thing is, the reason the Republicans have been making such a big deal about the debt ceiling is that Obama has been so monumentally irresponsible with regard to government spending. Congress causes these problems? Give me a break.


9 posted on 01/12/2013 4:06:27 PM PST by fhayek
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To: jazusamo


10 posted on 01/12/2013 4:07:53 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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11 posted on 01/12/2013 4:08:54 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: dandiegirl

Bingo


12 posted on 01/12/2013 4:10:30 PM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: skeeter

Bend over once, and you’ll bend over again.

Secure in this knowledge, Obama will use this fight to once again humiliate Republican “leaders” and dispirit Republican voters.


13 posted on 01/12/2013 4:11:00 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: dandiegirl
Only Republicans Presidents are ever blamed; Democrat Presidents are always given credit. My favorite moment of hypocrisy was when the Senate passed the Budget (the last one Reid, et al, have passed) in 2009 with 8,000 earmarks. Obama had just moved into the WH and was asked about his ‘no earmarks’ pledge. He said ‘well it is Bush's Budget’. Never mind that the Dems had control of the House and Senate and Bush wasn't the one to sign that Budget. Hypocrisy abounds when Obama’s Pravda-MSM is covering the story.
14 posted on 01/12/2013 4:12:16 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: jazusamo

The federal government takes in around $2.5 Trillion in revenue a year. It has a $16 Trillion debt. Shut the government down for the next 10 years. All of it.

The deficit will be paid of in 6 or 7 years. Give people a 3 or 4 year tax holiday from all forms of federal taxation after that.

When it comes time to reopen it in a decade the people will realize they didn’t need it for much to begin with.


15 posted on 01/12/2013 4:12:57 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: skeeter

The Kenyan Kommie believes he will again ‘own’ the republicans in the upcoming debt ceiling fight.


I don’t believe he’s rejected the option for a second. This is just PR. After some back and forth, he will claim that he has not choice but to bypass Congress. But....I think the more likely scenario is that Boehner will just fold like a cheap suit.


16 posted on 01/12/2013 4:17:08 PM PST by rbg81
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To: jazusamo

For now.

Tomorrow is another day.


17 posted on 01/12/2013 4:18:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dandiegirl
"BO has been very successful in blaming everything on Congress and escaping all responsibility of anything."

About the only "promise" the little snake has kept. He promised he was going to blame everything on GOP in STON and Address to Congress.

18 posted on 01/12/2013 4:20:17 PM PST by redhead (Height of futility: Paying taxes to a government without a budget)
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To: redhead

Seems like people would start to see thru this, but they don’t.


19 posted on 01/12/2013 4:24:08 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: skeeter

The thing is, Republican “leaders” want to raise the debt limit so they can continue to spend spend spend.

All this Republican tough talk about lowering spending is just a bunch of BS. They’re for lower spending, except the spending they want.


20 posted on 01/12/2013 4:27:10 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: skeeter
Republican leaders, do you have any pride at all?

LOL! I don't care who you are, that thar' is funny.

21 posted on 01/12/2013 4:39:15 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: jazusamo

Very clever. First 0bamugabe asks Congress for permission to set the debt limit himself. Naturally they laugh in his face. Then “Dirty” Harry ‘suggests’ that 0bamugabe just break the law and set debt limits anyway. 0bamugabe pretends to be honorable and rejects Reid’s phony recommendation. Now he and the Dems will claim they have done all that they can do and it’s the Republicans obstructing ‘progress’ on ‘debt negotiations.’


22 posted on 01/12/2013 4:42:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: jazusamo
One advantage of being an Independent is that I'm not beholden to the decisions made by the Republicans or Democrats, or their toadies. Instead, I can take a fresh stab at the problem.

First, the biggest problem is that the people responsible for creating the budget of the United States haven't done so. The folks in the House tried, and the result went nowhere. The folks in the Senate haven't done anything that I've seen. As far as the White Hut, the last budget to come out of there was laughed off the prairie by the Democrats.

So how have we been paying the bills? Continuing Resolutions. The stopgap method for making spending money legal.

So, a solution suggests itself. Don't use the existing model for the Continuing Resolutions. Instead, pass Continuing Resolutions that conform to the last legally adopted budget of the United States. Authorize spending to that budget, and no more. No "kickers", no "adjustments." Follow the letter of the numbers. Want more money for a program? Adopt a budget that includes that money.

Money bills originate in the House. There is your starting point.

23 posted on 01/12/2013 4:44:55 PM PST by asinclair (B*llshit is a renewable resource.)
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To: FerociousRabbit
Hate to rain on your parade but can you imagine what will happen when the products of LBJ's "Great Society" don't get their checks, Section 8 vouchers, EBT cards, etc.

Cities will burn and people will be robbed and killed for money, vengeance and sport.

We are in too deep to do anything but ride it to the revolution.

24 posted on 01/12/2013 4:46:40 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Proud Thought Criminal since 1984)
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To: jazusamo

Require an approved budget before any debt ceiling increase.

The pubs can put out a budget instantly. Wait for the Senate to do its job.

Then debate a budget like we normally [pre0bama] did. Then move the debt ceiling as per the needs of the new budget.


25 posted on 01/12/2013 4:53:33 PM PST by Principled
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To: redhead

ERK! that’s “SOTU” sorry...


26 posted on 01/12/2013 4:55:19 PM PST by redhead (Height of futility: Paying taxes to a government without a budget)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
Cities will burn and people will be robbed and killed for money, vengeance and sport.

Let's dance.

/johnny

27 posted on 01/12/2013 4:55:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jazusamo

Someone needs to explain to Obama how this works. We will not default unless Treasury refuses to write the checks. The us.gov takes in money EVERY day! Prioritize!


28 posted on 01/12/2013 4:56:28 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: jazusamo

The government has shut down before...under Bubba...and it worked as far as giving the Repubs the hand.


29 posted on 01/12/2013 5:05:12 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: FerociousRabbit
The deficit will be paid of in 6 or 7 years. Give people a 3 or 4 year tax holiday from all forms of federal taxation after that.

Since the dims/rats/progressives slavishly follow the communist line.....

make the tax same as in Russia...

flat 13% and no deductions....

Tax form consists of a postcard size form ...

With a place for name, address, and total income...

put in envelope with a check for 13% and mail to the tax office.

30 posted on 01/12/2013 5:05:45 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: griswold3

Iwas watching an old movie and this rich family was in default, so out came the gavels and they had to sell off everything that could be sold to PAY OFF THEIR DEBT - now I’m not saying America needs to have a FIRE SALE on assets but there is NO TALK about ACTUALLY CUTTING THE FUNDS OFF. I hope the gov’t goes into shutdown mode because frankly they have been broken for so long.


31 posted on 01/12/2013 5:08:37 PM PST by princess leah
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To: JRandomFreeper

Agreed. Those very cities are populated with “low information voters” and libtards. Burn it ALL the way down.


32 posted on 01/12/2013 5:13:23 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Sacajaweau
The government has shut down before...under Bubba...and it worked as far as giving the Repubs the hand.

Under Reagan, the government was shut down five-or-six times.

33 posted on 01/12/2013 5:19:24 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: jazusamo

there is no debt ceiling. we went over that number, $16.4 trillion, on dec 31st

the current national debt is: $16.441 trillion

they have no intention of staying within the fiscal constraints put forth by congress. expect he dollar to continue to slide as the few countries buying our debt back away... leaving only the federal reserve to buy it... having bought 75% of our debt last year... leading us inevitably into the Weimar republic

if anyone complains about high prices or unemployment... just tell them to “enjoy the, baby!” as we have “four more years... four more years!”

never let it be forgotten who brought us here, how, and why


34 posted on 01/12/2013 5:42:16 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

“enjoy the change, baby!!”


35 posted on 01/12/2013 5:43:49 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: PubliusMM

Obama keeps saying the nation has to pay for its past obligations. I agree. Let’s hold the line starting today. Match revenue to expenses. No more need to raise the debt ceiling. If there isn’t enough revenue, cut expenses instead of borrowing more.

In other words Mr. Obama, the need to raise the debt ceiling has everything to do with future deficit spending, not past.

Why can’t Boehner and McConnell say this to him?


36 posted on 01/12/2013 5:47:19 PM PST by Soul of the South
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jazusamo.
...flatly rejected Saturday the proposal for President Obama to bypass Congress in raising the nation’s borrowing limit, a day after the Senate's top Democrats urged Mr. Obama to take that step.
IOW, the entire fiasco was staged.


37 posted on 01/12/2013 6:12:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the top Republican in the chamber, said abdicating their authority to the White House amounted to "the Democratic leadership hiding under their desks."


38 posted on 01/12/2013 6:15:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: jazusamo
“Congress needs to do its job.”

Hypocrisy, thy name is this administration.

39 posted on 01/12/2013 6:29:25 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You have come to MY attention due to your recent comments in current THREADS. You are immediately ordered to return to the Rehabilitation Center you have come from. Do Not pass GO, DO not collect your EBT card.

PS: Please refrain from running across a crowded freeway to Escape next time, If you are injured ObummerCare will decide you are not worthy of saving.


40 posted on 01/12/2013 6:31:46 PM PST by corbe (mystified)
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To: corbe
No... I think I'll just wait out here for the clouds to pass and see if Jupiter shows up in the sky.

If you see my pants just leave them there. I'll get them in the morning.

/johnny

41 posted on 01/12/2013 6:35:18 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Hate to disapoint you young Man, But by EO, Obummer has deemed Jupiter will not pass untill another Kennedy is annointed.


42 posted on 01/12/2013 6:44:27 PM PST by corbe (mystified)
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To: corbe
One does not simply EO Jupiter.

/johnny

43 posted on 01/12/2013 6:49:32 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jazusamo

Betcha nobama asked Dingy to write this letter so he could respond in turn. This is so shallow.


44 posted on 01/12/2013 6:54:14 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
If the grasshoppers are forced to eat their own because the ant will no longer pay the way.........you end up with less grasshoppers.

"Any man that will not work; neither shall he eat."

45 posted on 01/12/2013 7:38:18 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: jazusamo

If Reid and Pelosi and all the other democrats believe obama can rule without congress, why don’t they go home and stop getting their government pay every month.


46 posted on 01/12/2013 8:10:30 PM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. Brilliant, huh.)
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To: originalbuckeye
RE :”My favorite moment of hypocrisy was when the Senate passed the Budget (the last one Reid, et al, have passed) in 2009 with 8,000 earmarks. Obama had just moved into the WH and was asked about his ‘no earmarks’ pledge. He said ‘well it is Bush's Budget’”

And he CRed that budget ever since so he didnt have to cut spending.

47 posted on 01/12/2013 11:24:39 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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