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Cuomo Signs Gun Legislation Into Law
nyt ^ | January 15, 2013 | THOMAS KAPLAN

Posted on 01/15/2013 2:43:29 PM PST by Red Steel

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1 posted on 01/15/2013 2:43:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Going to be interesting to see what happens once the Fudds find out that the law bans a lot of their precious duck hunting guns - it bars all semi-auto shotguns that have a FIXED magazine capacity of more than 7.

Many of them have 8 round tubes.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 2:45:21 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Red Steel

Yeah, THAT’LL help the crime rate!

Now, how are they going to talk the criminals into giving up THEIR weapons?

HMMMMM???


3 posted on 01/15/2013 2:46:04 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Spktyr

The Slimes from NY are gonna run background checks on ammo purchases.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 2:48:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

http://www.constitution.org/rc/rat_decl-ny.htm


5 posted on 01/15/2013 2:48:47 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Red Steel

Some New Yorker ought to take a page out of Unintended Consequences:
Pay for a billboard that reads, “Cuomo’s Death Clock -(enter number here) murdered since anti-defense law signed.”


6 posted on 01/15/2013 2:49:05 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Red Steel

One more good reason to avoid New York.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 2:50:26 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Red Steel

Feel safer now New *Yerkers*, hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm?


8 posted on 01/15/2013 2:50:38 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Red Steel

Good news for criminals.

Your odds just got better!


9 posted on 01/15/2013 2:50:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

Why do lawful gun owners always have to bear the burden of crimes committed with guns?


10 posted on 01/15/2013 2:51:56 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Red Steel

The communists push is really part of the communists Democrats in NY. This push could be the beginning of an effort to defy the communists and might start a little war. Just how does this little King think he can enforce this idiotic plan. NY is in real trouble, and just might be the end of the communists Democratic jackasses. NY might wake up.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 2:52:05 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Red Steel

Well why would anyone need more than a couple of rounds to defend themselves? I don’t know how many times Ive heard this carp from liberals I know! I have started responding to them by pointing out just how many times our well trained police officers miss their target while shooting at a suspect and ask if we should mandate a return to LEO’s using revolvers, because by their logic a well trained police officer should never need more than six rounds to get the job done.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 2:52:15 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Tyrants need criminals in order to scare the people into giving up their freedoms.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 2:52:25 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: Red Steel

I wonder when the governor plans his next public appearance.
I would like to see how the general public reacts.
Applause,rotten fruit,or worse.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 2:53:16 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cripplecreek

And better odds for would be tyrannical dictators Which is the real motives behind all this.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 2:53:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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16 posted on 01/15/2013 2:53:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I am now officially a criminal


17 posted on 01/15/2013 2:54:04 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Red Steel

Hey Cuomo - go ask Mexico how gun control is working for them...


18 posted on 01/15/2013 2:55:08 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: popdonnelly
This has absolutely nothing to do with crime.
It has everything to do with disarming the law abiding so the government can seize total control. Then they will decide which of us get to live,and who needs to die. All in the name of what's good for the State.
19 posted on 01/15/2013 2:57:31 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Red Steel
"The Slimes from NY are gonna run background checks on ammo purchases."

Gun shop proprietors in surrounding states are smiling.

20 posted on 01/15/2013 2:58:43 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Red Steel
The expanded ban on assault weapons broadens the definition of such weapons, banning semiautomatic pistols and rifles with detachable magazines and one military-style feature, as well as semiautomatic shotguns with one military-style feature. New Yorkers who already own such guns can keep them but will be required to register them with the state.

I wonder how many "criminals" Cuomo just added with this new law. My guess is less than half of those weapons will be registered, even among those who are not felons or otherwise barred from owning firearms. I hope the numbers are FAR less. Some laws should be resisted - and refusal to obey is only one of the options for resisting this sort of grab for power. A secodn one is litigation, and I hope tens of thousands of New Yorkers will file lawsuits. This is clearly unconstitutional, and it needs to bog the system down until those in power admit that they overreached. Wealthy, productive, tax-paying New Yorkers could also leave, voting with their feet and their dollars. There are other options as well, but I will leave them to the imagination.

21 posted on 01/15/2013 2:59:30 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: GlockThe Vote
I am now officially a criminal

Our condolences, New Yorker.
There is land and jobs to be had in Texas.
Come. You have proven worthy.

22 posted on 01/15/2013 2:59:46 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Red Steel

Eejit.


23 posted on 01/15/2013 3:02:32 PM PST by Southern Partisan
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To: Red Steel

Does that mean that Cuomo won’t be walking around with those armed guards anymore..I mean after all, guns are “evil” right Andrew..so that means you shouldnt have armed guards..perhaps they can guard you with twinkies


24 posted on 01/15/2013 3:02:34 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Red Steel
New Yorkers who already own such guns can keep them but will be required to register them with the state.

I wonder if that is constitutional. I hope the NRA challenges the legality of some portions of this law.

25 posted on 01/15/2013 3:02:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: Red Steel

IDIOTS.....Canada TRIED to have a gun registration for at least TEN years and finally GAVE up.....NO ONE would register all their guns.....they really think we are THIS stupid?


26 posted on 01/15/2013 3:03:08 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Red Steel

The proper response to this piece of tyranny is “No,” but that message must be delivered by large numbers of people around the Capitol and the governor. If people just don’t register their long guns, then the authorities have achieved a dream of criminalizing a large number of law abiding citizens and can arrest them at any time.


27 posted on 01/15/2013 3:03:22 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Red Steel

We hear some talk of Seccession but are not THESE
states breaking with the constitution by the nature
of their actions? They are in fact leaving the US.

Just something to consider.


28 posted on 01/15/2013 3:03:45 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Red Steel

Take three rounds out of that seven round magazine.

I need to bury some magazines in my walls, that a lot of Sheetrock work I don’t have time for at present.


29 posted on 01/15/2013 3:05:08 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Red Steel

Oh yay,,so per Cuomo’s logic all children in school are safe and we should expect a decrease in gun crime? What EXACTLY are these measures supposed to do?


30 posted on 01/15/2013 3:05:47 PM PST by austinaero
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The Shotgun Fudds in Upstate are in for an unpleasant surprise.


31 posted on 01/15/2013 3:08:27 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Red Steel

How will they measure success?


32 posted on 01/15/2013 3:10:10 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Spktyr
Going to be interesting to see what happens once the Fudds find out that the law bans a lot of their precious duck hunting guns - it bars all semi-auto shotguns that have a FIXED magazine capacity of more than 7.

Many of them have 8 round tubes.

I wonder if they specified length of cartridge. I.E. If you have a shotgun that holds seven 3" shells, that same shotgun can hold 12 of these 1-3/4" "Minishells":

Aguila Minishell Ammunition 12 Gauge 1-3/4" #4 and #1 Buckshot 11 Pellets Box of 20 (Midway USA)

As dishonest as anti-gunners are, you KNOW if the shell length isn't specified, they'll jam shotguns full of these tiny shells, and promptly declare them illegal "assault weapons".

33 posted on 01/15/2013 3:12:24 PM PST by holymoly
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I heard Cuomo talk today about this travesty. I almost vomited. This state is no longer tolerable. The first job I find in a free state I am moving. I have resigned myself to take up to a 50% pay cut to leave. NY is making me physically ill.


34 posted on 01/15/2013 3:12:47 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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we did have a 5 yr. exit plan. May have to rethink that very soon


35 posted on 01/15/2013 3:14:36 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Red Steel

I wonder who in NY is going to be stupid enough to register their defense weapons with this Nazi?


36 posted on 01/15/2013 3:16:48 PM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Red Steel

There won’t be one fewer murder in New York City this year when compared to last year.

But the liberals (both democrat and republican) will feel all warm and fuzzy inside!


37 posted on 01/15/2013 3:18:00 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Dutch Boy
I don't understand why New Yorkers are sitting around eating this crap sandwich. Cuomo, the man that engineered the mortgage crisis, is leading the Communist charge to make criminals and victims of all honest gun owners. Cuomo try this in Texas or Mississippi and he'd be out of office tar and feathered within the week.
38 posted on 01/15/2013 3:18:24 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo has the blood of his constituents on his hands.


39 posted on 01/15/2013 3:18:24 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Red Steel

What a disgusting POS.


40 posted on 01/15/2013 3:19:54 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: holymoly

Nope, they didn’t. Read the whole thing. It didn’t specify how many rounds of what, or even that it be the round intended for the mag, just that it could hold more than 7.

Likewise, short shells in lever action rifles could also be used.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 3:21:27 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Scotswife

Better make that 5 month (week would be better) and send your affected arms out of state until you can. Got anyone that doesn’t like you and knows you have firearms? All they’ll have to do is drop a dime.

Extrapolate from there.


42 posted on 01/15/2013 3:23:21 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Red Steel

Start the lawsuits.


43 posted on 01/15/2013 3:23:37 PM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Red Steel

Talk about jumping the gun. How many months passed after it was clear that the US government was gun running to Mexican drug cartels before anything was done?


44 posted on 01/15/2013 3:23:52 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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Congratulations, Governor. Now, how are you gonna get them?


45 posted on 01/15/2013 3:24:46 PM PST by jughandle
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Anyone Know when this new law goes into effect ?


46 posted on 01/15/2013 3:25:55 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: popdonnelly
Why do lawful gun owners always have to bear the burden of crimes committed with guns?

What is a lawful gun owner?

I think we need to get away from that terminology since anyone who is not committing a crime at the time is by definition lawful.

IMO, opening up the "lawful" meme invites speculation to a "Minority Report" scenario....especially when it comes to "mental health" issues.

47 posted on 01/15/2013 3:26:00 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Red Steel

Indian Reservations sell cigarettes avoiding some tax issues. Maybe they should look into selling ammunition too.


48 posted on 01/15/2013 3:27:22 PM PST by jps098
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To: Red Steel

This bill was brought up for vote in the Senate at 11:00 at night under cover of darkness. Ignoring a mandatory three day commentary period, they voted in this travesty in 20 minutes. The Assembly voted today, again ignoring the three day commentary. Cuomo signed it into law this afternoon. In all this thing was jammed through both houses and signed in less than 24 hours. This is what passes for democracy in neeorkistan. sd


49 posted on 01/15/2013 3:27:49 PM PST by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: kabar
I wonder if that is constitutional.

Series??

NO snark intended, but series??

50 posted on 01/15/2013 3:28:24 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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