This is the only "little book" the left worships.
Posted on 01/15/2013 8:17:18 PM PST by kiryandil
Did the New York state legislature just accidentally make it a crime to merely OWN a firearm?
See page 22 of the posted bill, s2230:
§ 41-a. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 265.01-b to 5 read as follows:
6 § 265.01-b Criminal possession of a firearm.
7 A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
8 (1) possesses any firearm or; (2) lawfully possesses a firearm prior to
9 the effective date of the chapter of the laws of two thousand thirteen
10 which added this section subject to the registration requirements of
11 subdivision sixteen-a of section 400.00 of this chapter and knowingly
12 fails to register such firearm pursuant to such subdivision.
13 Criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Whoops! Yer all felons, NY gun owners!
I seriously doubt it was an accident.
They had to pass it in order to find out what is in it.
They had to pass it in order to find out what is in it.
Sure looks that way to me. Perhaps it was no accident.
Line 11 has the and. Looks like mandatory registration of all guns to me. Glad I live in Arizona...
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LOL!
Dumbasses.
Sure. Accidentally on purpose likely.
What most don’t understand about NY gun laws is: normal rifles and shotguns are not “firearms”.
I kid you not.
“Firearms” in NY are whatever is defined as regulated and restricted or banned, to wit handguns, assault weapons, short barreled rifles/shotguns, and machineguns.
So: no, they didn’t. Welcome to legalese - words don’t mean what you think they do.
Do I smell a court challenge?
Right on, Brother. They did a number on all guns in NY State. They knew what they were doing.
There’s an “and” clause there at the end that I think applies to both A and B. My interpretation is that it makes it illegal to own a firearm AND not register it per the law.
Which is bad enough as it is. Where’s the vaunted inferred Constitutional right to privacy??
How can this even be? Was the 2nd amendment overturned by 2/3rds of the states?
Wouldn’t this automatically be struck down as unconstitutional then? Not that “that little book” matters to the new Gestapo.
Progressive jackasses who hate our constitution never do anything by accident..so now every law abiding gun owner in New York are criminals
Damn.
My condolences, New York. Now, we’ll see a massive exodus of people, I bet.
There is no reason for registration except to prepare for confiscation.
The highlighted text makes the entire law ‘unconstitutional’. Interesting to see how this plays out.
Good. Incremental steps are bad; bring it on. Maybe the frogs will feel the heat and jump out of the pot.
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
- Ayn Rand, 1957 -
OK, so anyone in New York who owns a firearm (not a rifle or a shotgun) is now a criminal.
You're right.
This is an interesting lesson to computer programmers on why it’s good to use parentheses liberally within logical statements to remove ambiguity regarding operator precedence and order of evaluation.
Of interest to you and your bang list.
This is the only "little book" the left worships.
The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.
The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.
Various news sources quote officials as saying, “There are some technical deficiencies in the law that was passed but the governor will correct those through a legislative procedure” (paraphrasing but accurate).
No telling how this law will be ‘corrected’. To close loopholes. For the children. (see tagline - cuomo to NYers = SUCK IT!)
The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.
The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.
NY, it’s special.
No, the "and" is only operative in (2).
(1) makes you a felon because you POSSESS a firearm.
Except that apparently, if you UNLAWFULLY owned a gun prior to the enactment of this law, you are not required to register it.
Only if you take possession after the law is passed, OR you LAWFULLY owned it prior to the law being passed.
This section(41) is actually regarding “school grounds” - see page 21.
Eventually this will happen in California too..we are all royally screwed because a bunch of mooching pieces of crap cared more about getting free stuff than give a da,pen about freedom..because of them we all have to suffer now..I wonder if Dems who own guns but voted for the schmuck..are they happy now?
I’m sure they’re thrilled!
Darn iPad I meant to say damn lol
LOL. Good!
Its hard to tell because they also stopped teaching English in NY about 20 years ago.
Not sure about that I doubt every single dem wanted this..does ideology trump everything else..yes..but seeing those lines in San Francisco of all places of people buying guns I doubt they were Republican..after all..Republicans and San Francisco usually don’t mix
Thanks kiryandil.
Those elected demonic-rats want this because they’re all about control of the ignorant masses. History has proved that too many times.
Seeing that photo of Hitler..never in my wildest dreams did I think history would repeat itself it’s looking like it is..those who forget history are deemed to repeat it..seems too many people have forgotten the holocaust and need to be reminded what happens when a dictator takes power
Exactly right and it’s shocking to me that the Jewish democrats are FOR gun control. Shame on them most of all. Idiots.
Had to rinse my eyes a couple of times but sure looks like it.
They seem not to see what the reality is this:
I loved every minute I drove through mid-state NY. I stopped in wonderful towns and the folk there were smart, fun and friendly.
How sad the former lead the latter.
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