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The Debt Ceiling has TEETH (What would happen if Obama violates it)
American Thinker ^ | January 17, 2013 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 01/17/2013 3:31:13 AM PST by Moseley

President Obama should violate the debt ceiling, Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats are urging. Force Republicans to sue in court. Democrats are already violating legal requirements to pass a national budget each year. Republicans would lose even more influence if Democrats broke more laws.

So does the national debt ceiling have 'teeth?' What would happen if Barack Obama simply shattered the debt ceiling, to avoid negotiating with Congressional Republicans?

Democrats argue it would take a long time for appeals courts to wrangle through the dispute. Obama could go on spending for years while unpredictable judges sort it all out. In the interim, Obama could get his way.

Democrats are beating the drum that Congress voted for the spending, so Obama faces legal uncertainty. In truth, Congress has not voted for a budget since Obama took office. A temporary Continuing Resolution expires on March 27, 2013. Democrats are fretting about paying debts. But of course new spending is not a debt. Republicans are just gearing up with the revelation that Senator Obama voted against a debt ceiling increase in 2006:

Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. . . . Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit.

-- Senator Barack Obama, Congressional Record, March 16, 2006.

First, investors would just stop loaning money. Who will buy government bonds that are worthless, null and void? Any Treasury bonds sold in excess of the debt ceiling will be legally invalid. If there is legal uncertainty, investors might be buying worthless pieces of paper.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attackwithin; budget; debt; debtceiling; deficit; demagogicparty; fed; illegalpres; nwo; obama; partisanmediashills; sequester
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To: Moseley
TEXT OF Senator Barack Obama Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt March 16, 2006

Congressional Record Volume 152, Number 34 (Thursday, March 16, 2006)] [Senate] [Pages S2236-S2241]

From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Printing Office

Mr. OBAMA. Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America's debt problem.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is ``trillion'' with a ``T.'' That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President's budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we'll spend on Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America's priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans--a debt tax that Washington doesn't want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators Conrad and Feingold, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Previously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was abandoned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending.

As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our deficit to historically high levels and borrow more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this administration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years. That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.

Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt.

This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.

Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ``the buck stops here.'' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem [[Page S2238]] and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit.

Senator Barack Obama Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt March 16, 2006 http://the-heff-report.blogspot.com/p/text-of-senator-barack-obama-senate.html

21 posted on 01/17/2013 6:08:49 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: rbg81

Saving money is what builds a real stable economy. This economy has been built on spending and negative saving. That string is hitting the wall even now, thus the crisis after crisis.


22 posted on 01/17/2013 6:24:03 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: KeyLargo

Bump.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 6:27:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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Something that needs to be shouted from the rooftops (since the "Ministry of Propaganda" will never report it) is that EVERY TIME a leftist says we have to increase the debt ceiling because we need to pay the bills that congress has run up, PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW that the leftists are wanting to borrow more money to pay back what was borrowed!

They're wanting to make a payment on their VISA card bill using a cash advance from their Mastercard!

Mark

24 posted on 01/17/2013 8:57:16 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: arthurus

Saving money is what builds a real stable economy.


A good savings rate helps, but its not the whole story. Look at Japan. I realize a lot of Americans may still think the Japanese economy is great, but in many ways they’re in bigger trouble than us—including debt.


25 posted on 01/17/2013 10:12:15 AM PST by rbg81
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Look at Japan. They have a tremendous nominal savings rate but the government spends that savings faster than it accumulates. Almost all personal savings is through the Post Office which, in Japan, is a government bureau. The government replaces the monetary savings of the people with IOUs, kind of like the American forced “savings” plan that we call Social Security. It ain’t there and it does not build capital for future enterprise. The Japanese economy is very like that of the USA. They just have different names for things and hit the bog a bit earlier than the USA did.


26 posted on 01/17/2013 10:24:04 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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