Posted on 01/17/2013 6:13:44 AM PST by backwoods-engineer
ZEBULON, N.C. (WTVD) -- Hundreds of people met Wednesday evening to talk passionately about the Second Amendment and their rights to bear arms.
Three local sheriffs, including Wake County's Donnie Harrison, took part in the minutemen's discussions in Zebulon. The meeting came just hours after President Obama unveiled his gun control plans.
A boiling point in the meeting came about midway through. When dozens inside and dozens more outside of the Fargo Cattle Company Steakhouse bristled about a possibility that the federal government could violate their Second Amendment rights.
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I agree. That's why I think NC (and other states) should add an amendment like LA did, enforcing strict scrutiny on the right to keep and bear arms.
I sounded to me like that attorney was turning strict scrutiny on its head; instead of a "compelling state interest" being required to justify the smallest infringement, I think he was saying, we can do whatever we want, and make up some crap to justify a compelling state interest. That junk don't fly with me, and did NOT fly with the North Carolina patriots at that meeting.
I suspect, that if they do, they will find out how outnumbered they are and either give it up or go off the deep end...
This from the Washoe County NV sheriff comments to the Reno Gazette Journal (a gannett piece of trash used by the radical left wing extremists):
Washoe County Sheriff Mike Haley agreed that “we should close the loophole on private party purchases of weapons.” But he liked Obama’s proposal to take the gun-control legislation one step further.
“I do believe we should control access to assault weapons and limit access to high-capacity magazines,” Haley said. “In all cases, those who are permitted access to such weapons should be required to keep them in a safe or other locked container.”(was he imported from kalifornia?)
Since we have only been in the area less than 2 years we didn’t know much about the sheriff but this tells me a whole lot. NOT what I wanted to see/hear. Sounds like a PC clown to me seeking to appease the radical left wing extremists in DC. When you have the county’s chief law enforcement officer buying in to the “assault weapon” garbage and “high-cap magazines” (at least he didn’t say “clips”), it’s time for them to go. More looking in to this will be required by me to see what I can do to change that thought process. Private sales? They are private sales! Not a “loophole”. I can see lots of barter activities going on since most people don’t want anymore govt intrusion in to their lives. (Hmm? Is that a drone I hear overhead?)
Carson City. Noon. Saturday 1/19.
Proud to be among those patriots that were there. We were discussing the Anti-Federalist Papers during some of the waiting times! That tells you our people are informed.
I tried to get some 2nd Amendment types that I work with to go to the meeting. No, they were too busy with their lives. Sorry, but when will we get involved, if not now?
> The only way around the Second Amendment is to repeal it.
I submit that the first 10 amendments cannot be repealed by the simple amendment process. They were passed as the result of the first Continental Congress, and were a condition for most of the colonies to enter the new Union as States.
A new Continental Congress would effectively dissolve the United States, and there are more than a few states that would not re-enter the new Union without the first ten amendments completely intact.
The media talking head in the WTVD video that covered the meeting tried to make it sound like we weren't listening, that the sheriffs really said they wouldn't confiscate guns no matter what, etc. I was there, and that guy is WRONG. Those sheriffs were doing some back-pedaling, big-time.
Now, I guarantee there is some SERIOUS discussion going on at the NC Sheriff's Association meeting this morning, believe you me!
It sounds like the Wake County deputy should be a candidate for sheriff in the next election.
The people I know and have talked to in county law enforcement will not collect weapons, because they will never be ordered to. The method will be voluntary delivery of said weapons to designated collection points under penalty of fine. The feds and the IRS have the ability to simply drain your assets electronically. Get your money out in cash to survive this sneaking trick, because, make no mistake, the Kenyan vulture will use it and his welfare snitches and the media will help him.
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States." --Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787
I received notification of this meeting at work at 5:30 yesterday afternoon. I live in Rocky Mount and work in Wilson, and we didn’t have child care set up, or I would have been there (even though I don’t live in any of the counties represented there). Now I’m sorry I didn’t figure out some way to get there.
When she was 13, my sainted 85 year old mother arrived at school one day in her small Danish town to find German tanks parked there. Her English teacher raised the windows in her classroom so that the occupying troops would be sure to hear the English songs, including God Save the Queen, which she and her students sang that day. While the Germans probably did not appreciate that small display of contempt from the Danes, they understood what the real tools of resistance might be. One of the first things they did in Denmark was to disarm the police and the civilian populace.
I suspect that many sheriffs who will not go against the 2Nd Amendment when put to the test, are laying low until that day because they would like to continue getting government grants for as long as possible.
The power of government grants is significant and they should be abolished for all but pure research in fields that have an objective result so they can be cut off if results are not obtained.
This is what concerns me. I know of no instance where any law enforcement has ever refused an order to enforce a gun law. Quite to the contrary you frequently read of "arsenals" seized by ATF, sheriff's deputies, etc.
In a particularly shameful time in the hsitory of NYC (Shameful from the viewpoint of patriots, not police) The NYC police confiscated a number of previously registered semiautomatics at the behest of David Dinkins - a sort of 0bama in minature. I remember reading at the time that about a dozen arrests were made of people who failed to either turn their firearms over to the police or render them inoperable. Now some of you might say only a dozen - so what? Even one is a clear violation of the constitution and the oath of office that presumably the NYC police take. (Like the constitution means anything to any government bureaucrat)
“It sounded to me like Sheriff Harrison (who I think is a good man and a good sheriff) was saying, “If they pass a law in Congress requiring me to confiscate guns, that is what I will do..”
The next question should have been and needs to be next time this statement is made is, “How many of us are you willing to kill to make that happen?”
Cops will do what tbey must to ensure their paycheck continues to be paid and assure their children will have a roof over their head, good shoes and hot meals.
Would a purposed repeal Amendment make it through the official process?
I'd like to think it wouldn't. Not without gun banning jack-asses bleeding for it at least. :-)
As for a new ConCon... In today's political climate that would be insanity.
NC used to or still does have law in which the sheriff/local LE can halt sales of firearms and liquor. Its was used fairly recently in King. I think the circumstances were a prolonged stretch of bad weather or some such. At any rate there is precedence for what the lawyer talked about. When I lived in NC the place struck me as extremely corrupt and gun owners in general seemed the Fudd types mostly. I recall asking about NFA weapons at Perrys (I think it was there) and got the wide eyed ‘we dont do that kind of stuff here (in NC)’ sort of response. LOL, I think they thought I was a fed. Being from a free state previously all the NFA stuff was old hat, something I was completely comfortable with. In short NC gun owners seemed to be their own worst enemies. For some considerable time they voted dem never thinking they would be enslaved. Now, finally, some (a very few I think) are waking up. Your poverty is considerable and embarrassing. Just my observations...
That law was overturned by Federal Circuit Court, and was replaced by the NC legislature, and the law went into effect in Dec of last year.
OK, I thought some action had been taken on it but couldnt recall. So, what replaced it?
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