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Do You Want To Scare A Baby Boomer?
TEC ^ | 1-17-2013 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:32 PM PST by blam

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To: ansel12

You seem to have ignored Gene Robinson. :)


121 posted on 01/18/2013 12:55:44 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: blam
End Of All Hope
122 posted on 01/18/2013 1:05:58 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Actually, there are TWO, 1. wheat and the 2. tares,
that make up the “boomers”, and all generations.

1. Those with the beatitudes of Matthew Chapter 5, and

2. Those who serve Mammon, the heart darkened (Matt. Chapter 6 and Matthew 6:24. )

All public employees, President on down, should never be permitted to vote. (Matthew Chapter 7)


123 posted on 01/18/2013 1:54:07 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: blam

You youngsters just keep working hard and paying your taxes so old Lancey can keep getting those SS checks to make his boat payments.


124 posted on 01/18/2013 1:59:24 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JCBreckenridge
You're reading comprehension skills are a tad impaired this evening... is the ganja that good?

You accurately quoted dragnet2: “millions of stay at home moms, who never had to work a day in her life outside the home” and then went on to misrepresent the poster's meaning.

The poster said, "...never had to work...", and you misrepresent it as if he said "...never worked..." But even that doesn't matter because the end phrase, "...outside the home...", makes the "had to" clause moot.

...Or is the ganja that bad?

125 posted on 01/18/2013 2:10:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: marsh2

Hey, I am Mom, and if that happens, I won’t like it! My husband and I have no illusions about Social Security. Paid into it for years and won’t get much of it, if any, back. We are resigned to being the suckers holding the empty bag, and we do not want our kids and grandkids saddled with the taxes it would take to keep the Ponzi scheme going a few more years. Government programs always pit groups of people against one another in a fight for the spoils. Too bad so many people still believe in a free lunch and government “benefits”.


126 posted on 01/18/2013 4:28:12 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: blam

Boy, sure is entertain watching the inter-generational fighting on this thread.

America used to be a self-reliant, resilient country.

Maybe we still are, but it’s not apparent sampling some of the discussion on this thread.

It doesn’t matter though. At some point in the not-too-distant future (depending on how irresponsible government can get away with being) your “golden years” will depend on:

1. The assets you’ve accumulated yourself.
2. How many children you have and whether they can stand you
3. The community spirit of your local area and it’s religious and civic institutons

you’ll note that government doesn’t directly factor in

Government will matter, of course, but what will matter most is it’s size and how aggressively they tax you - that will be a short-lived issue though - all governments at all levels will become a lot smaller, because there is no money to support anything but small government.

That’s it. Adjust your life by controlling those three things - pick wisely and you’ll have a more enjoyable old age, pick poorly and die early, penniless and alone.

It’s entirely up to you. As much as folks want government to ensure their comfort and independence, government will fail, as it must in an honorable America.

Whine if you must, but whining won’t help when nobody has the money and your well-being depends on things money can’t buy.


127 posted on 01/18/2013 4:32:04 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: blam

It really ticks me off to see so many of the statistics in this article come from the AARP. AARP has been a huge part of the problem - always grabbing for more government goodies without ever thinking of who has to pay for it all. The ones currently collecting benefits paid by taxpayers will be the last to enjoy the gravy train, and the AARP and others like them don’t give a rat’s behind what is going to happen to future generations. Gimme, gimme, gimme!

As for people not saving enough for the future, it’s hard to do when government takes so much of what we have to give to others and debases the currency, too. Might as well spend it now while it is still worth something.


128 posted on 01/18/2013 4:35:25 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Lancey Howard; ErnBatavia
You youngsters just keep working hard and paying your taxes so old Lancey can keep getting those SS checks to make his boat payments.

Finally, a post that I can identify with! I retired at age 54, non government employer, I have a private pension but had to wait until I was 62 to get my s.s. It amounts to about 2.5 times the number cited in the article, in addition to my private pension. My wife's income dwarfs mine and I cry all the way to the bank.

All you youngins keep those s.s. checks coming to me and never, never, never, vote for that nasty old, "means testing".

I believe that Ernbatavia, whom I've pinged, uses his for "mad money" at casinos. I say, to each his own, boats,casinos whatever. We only live once, so live it up.

129 posted on 01/18/2013 4:36:17 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.)
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To: dragnet2

Pretty sick of the boomer bashing too.
The greatest fought the war, but didn’t run it.
They WERE in charge in the 60s for Vietnam and 70s for Malaise.
As soon as they came home they worked to break the piggy bank, who do you think expanded SS, voted in Medicare and the Great Society?
By the time the boomers even started voting, that cake was baked.
In the 80s and 90s when we had a chance to right the ship, who keep stopping reform of SS AND MEDICARE? The now Senior Citizens who feel for the Rats Mediscare crap every time.


130 posted on 01/18/2013 5:21:48 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Then help us get rid of it. Please. You are killing us right now. We are getting destroyed. We can’t do this by ourselves, but we can do this if Boomers step up and say, “no more”.

We need your help desperately. Please. Help us get rid of it.
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I was not going to say anything to you until you uttered this pathetic cry for help.

lol the boomers and SS are the least of our problems.


131 posted on 01/18/2013 5:25:32 AM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: blam

Ping for a depressing read later


132 posted on 01/18/2013 6:29:55 AM PST by The FIGHTIN Illini
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To: ansel12

And almost all of them were VOLUNTEERS


133 posted on 01/18/2013 7:11:12 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: JouleZ
"Seems history is repeating itself. Every young mom I know, including my own daughters, have college degrees but do not work. They want to be stay at home moms. Such luxury was alien to me but then they are all married to successful men. I was a divorced working mom. Maybe they don't want to be me but Gen X-ers are lazy is my take."

Gen X aren't "young moms". We were born anywhere from the mid sixties into the seventies, and we're solidly middle-aged at this point. I'm self-employed, but most relatives/friends my age are working 60-plus hours per week trying to keep up on bubble-era mortgages taken out in the 5-10 year runup before the housing crash. We tend to active lifestyles, in the extreme, preferring leisure activities like mountain biking, triathaloning, and "adventure tourism". "Lazy" isn't the word I'd use to describe us/them.

The generation I think you're referring to are the millennials. Most of them never had jobs in high school, and I think that contributes to them showing up at their first professional jobs with very little in the way of work habits or skills, and seem to have trouble working independently. They also seem to feel they're entitled to mid-career pay/responsibility the minute they set foot on a job. Most of them are good kids, and I think they're surprisingly conservative socially/politically. Not sure I'd call them "lazy" either, as some of them keep up insane work/social schedules - but sheltered, pampered, and naive come to mind.
134 posted on 01/18/2013 8:04:15 AM PST by CowboyJay (Lowest Common Denominator 2012 - because liberty and prosperity were overrated)
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To: gleeaikin
It's a ponzi scheme. They've ALWAYS used current money paid in to pay current retirees. There's never been a “lockbox”, that's a lie. They didn't spend the money. Bottom line, there's only 3 things they can do:
1)Raise SS taxes.
2)Raise retirement age.
3)Lower benefits paid out.

But even this can only be done for so long. Sooner or later what you pay in over the years is far less than what you get back in retirement. Indeed, we're already there. I hate SS.

135 posted on 01/18/2013 9:49:53 AM PST by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Perhaps if you hadn’t aborted a third of my generation things would be different today.


Who is “you”? The victim mentality and it’s best friend, resentment is poison and it is based in falsehoods.

Your arguments are with liberalism...not a whole generation of people who had it’s destructive ambitions imposed upon them.

Many Boomers saw the retirement bubble a long time ago and tried to reform SS to prepare for it. Liberals (in the media and DNC) would have nothing of that and they accused republicans of being racists who were trying to feed old people dog food. Suggesting any reform to SS was compared to touching the third rail of politics.

Unless you were born yesterday, you know many boomers have fought against abortion and have not participated in abortion. They have worked hard to talk moms into not killing their babies. You also know that liberals celebrate abortion and push it as hard as they can.

YOu have liberals in your generation to fight, too. They will do further harm to your generation like they have harmed the boomer generation. The ideology is anti-human life, anti-happiness/freedom, and anti-prosperty.

Sometimes it is best to fight off what you have now than to whine about and resent what conservatives failed to win in the past.

I see the “progress” agenda items they desire to impose upon your generation. Do you? What are you doing to stop them? Should we blame you for what they do if you fail to stop them?


136 posted on 01/18/2013 10:56:44 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: JCBreckenridge; All

I love my partner too much to insult him by saying I would subsidize our marriage since I have more income than he does. Men can be sensitive about things like that. I’m not sure what you mean by “trying to get married for the FIRST time.” I’ve been a widow for 6 years after 44 years of marriage.


137 posted on 01/18/2013 10:47:29 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: JCBreckenridge

“What, you want the truth? That by 2020, America will be bankrupt, and it won’t matter whether you get your SS check, because the money won’t be worth anything?”

I see you absolutely didn’t get my point.

You are blaming anyone and everyone who is/are living today.

What you don’t get is that this was set in motion many, many years ago...even way before I was born.

The progressive movement was started over 100 years ago.

Now, go back through history and find those who are truly to blame.

And, then...grow up.


138 posted on 01/18/2013 11:52:34 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Old age and treachery always overcomes youth and skill.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; SaraJohnson

This is one fine post by SaraJohnson.

You would do yourself a favor to read it, and take it to heart.


139 posted on 01/19/2013 12:09:20 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Old age and treachery always overcomes youth and skill.)
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To: gleeaikin

I’ve not been married at all. Why are my taxes going to pay for your benefits? You don’t seem in any need of such benefits, while I could definitely use my own money to save up and buy a house and get married.


140 posted on 01/19/2013 1:58:33 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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