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How Obama's Gun 'Order' will Backfire
WND ^ | January 17, 2013 | David Kupelian

Posted on 01/20/2013 11:40:25 AM PST by paratrooper82

Among the 23 “executive actions” President Obama announced yesterday amidst great fanfare (and shameless exploitation of children) is this:

“Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.”

Obama may want to put a hold on that one, until he comes to grips with what happened the last time a U.S. president tried it.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; firearm; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; study; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: paratrooper82
Watch for a big push by the ATF.

Tables of guns confiscated, pressure on gun dealers for “acurate records.”

2 posted on 01/20/2013 11:46:02 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: paratrooper82
Watch for a big push by the ATF.

Tables of guns confiscated, pressure on gun dealers for “acurate records.”

3 posted on 01/20/2013 11:46:15 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: paratrooper82
Times have changed. I expect the CDC to deliver a put-up job. If the EPA can declare CO2 to be a pollutant, then the CDC can do anything it wants.
4 posted on 01/20/2013 11:47:48 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hadaclueonce

Push the button once, then wait. Idiot.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 11:47:58 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: paratrooper82
Across the fruited plain, there are a few who are awake. We were out yesterday. Did you see us Mr. Hussein?


6 posted on 01/20/2013 11:54:10 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. ¬ó D.H.)
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To: hadaclueonce
"“As the scholars frankly admitted, they had started out their research as gun-control advocates,” said Kopel, “and had been forced to change their minds by a careful review of the evidence.”"

Bloody unlikely to happen a second time.

Even the IPCC knows that the conclusions need to be promulgated first, followed by the prpoer data manipulations to back the forgone conclusions.

7 posted on 01/20/2013 11:54:48 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: hadaclueonce

More ATF riots.


8 posted on 01/20/2013 11:57:07 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: paratrooper82

If Obama pushes immigration and gun control nothing will get done because the divide will get even greater, and the absurd thing is that real stuff actually needs done that can improve the economy and reduce debt.

There is what I call a “cabal of interests” in America that want gun control and they want amnesty for illegals and open borders too, and they are a lot more than your typical liberals, and just maybe they really want nothing done. You’ll see some coming out of the woodwork in both Parties.


9 posted on 01/20/2013 11:57:15 AM PST by apoliticalone
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To: paratrooper82

List of Sheriffs who won’t enforce...

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/list-of-sheriffs-standing-up-against-obamas-gun-control-updated/31948/


10 posted on 01/20/2013 11:59:30 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: hadaclueonce

Sometimes when I post it gets hung for a long time so I have to click the button again. I see double or triple posting here and just figure it happened to them. I don’t think that makes one an idiot.


11 posted on 01/20/2013 12:00:18 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: paratrooper82
“When Wright, Rossi and Daly produced their report for the National Institute of Justice, they delivered a document quite different from the one they had expected to write,” explained David Kopel, research director of the Independence Institute and co-author of the law school textbook, “Firearms Law and the Second Amendment.”
“Carefully reviewing all existing research to date, the three scholars found no persuasive scholarly evidence that America’s 20,000 gun-control laws had reduced criminal violence.”

How refreshing to hear about a University research team with the integrity to dismiss preconceived notions and accurately analyze their data!

Somehow I doubt the libs will be making that mistake again.

12 posted on 01/20/2013 12:08:05 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: TomasUSMC

Place marker cuz mine is on there! ;)


13 posted on 01/20/2013 12:12:57 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: hadaclueonce
Watch for 20,000 new ATF employees....Another 500,000 IRS employees for Obamacare and bank account seizures.....

No prison time...just fines...and confiscation.

Remember...if they found pot on your yacht...they could confiscate your yacht.

We're all going to be criminals !!!

14 posted on 01/20/2013 12:14:29 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: hadaclueonce
[The researchers'] findings, summarized starkly by co-author Wright, were that “Gun control laws do not reduce crime.”

That ain't going to happen again. They will toe the line and find a hockey stick and a penumbra in their research data to conclude that gun ownership causes more crime, family breakups, milk to go bad, AIDS and bitter feelings.

15 posted on 01/20/2013 12:14:29 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: paratrooper82

The Left has learned a great deal since this study. To wit: government grants for climate research goes to those who will deliver a report supporting more government involvement and control of all human and economic activity in the interests of “saving the planet”. Those researchers who don’t get it and report honest results don’t get any more money.

I’m certain that the smart folks over at the CDC have been paying attention and no doubt the researchers will be more carefully chosen.


16 posted on 01/20/2013 12:16:20 PM PST by centurion316
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To: hinckley buzzard
If the EPA can declare CO2 to be a pollutant, then the CDC can do anything it wants.

The EPA and CDC have been drawing conclusions and then finding the "science" to prove them for decades. It's nothing new, it is just a bit more blatant now because they have gotten away with it scott free for so long.

17 posted on 01/20/2013 12:19:46 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: paratrooper82

The mistake Jimmy Carter made was that he picked an honest tribunal.
We don’t have to worry about that with Obama.

He will find some low lifes at Berkely or elsewhere that will give him what he wants.


18 posted on 01/20/2013 12:21:17 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Rusty0604; hadaclueonce

Happens to me every time I ping one of my lists even when I don’t get hung up and try again. Just one click, and voila! Two or three dupes. FR is crippled now.


19 posted on 01/20/2013 12:40:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TomasUSMC

I’m curious about one thing.. There isn’t a letter/statement from each sheriff on the list. How do we know if it’s “real” with no public statement?


20 posted on 01/20/2013 12:48:06 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: paratrooper82

If it’s a govt funded study then the study results WILL support the intended policy. If you have any doubt of this then search for paul houser and klamath river dam removal.


21 posted on 01/20/2013 12:48:11 PM PST by CheneyClone
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To: Sacajaweau
We're all going to be criminals !!!

You say that like it's a bad thing. In the future, it will be badge of honor against a tyrannical government.
22 posted on 01/20/2013 12:54:08 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks paratrooper82.


23 posted on 01/20/2013 12:57:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: paratrooper82

The terminally stupid keeps bleating about how gun control will backfire politically on Obama.

It doesn’t work that way for genocidal dictators, morons.


24 posted on 01/20/2013 1:15:53 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: paratrooper82

Bttt.


25 posted on 01/20/2013 1:51:04 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: TomasUSMC

I am surprised to see the sheriff odf Pine County, MN, on that list. Minnesota? You mean there is a place in Minnesota where law enforcement is not a bunch of useless slugs?
(Based on experiences w/ Eagan and Minneapolis police departments. In a word: useless).


26 posted on 01/20/2013 2:10:44 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: paratrooper82

, the three scholars found no persuasive scholarly evidence that America’s 20,000 gun-control laws had reduced criminal violence.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/how-obamas-gun-order-will-backfire/#f83J3YFfRyAcELEs.99

It won’t be scholars or scientists this time, it will be political hacks.


27 posted on 01/20/2013 2:25:40 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Place marker cuz mine is on there! ;)

Place marker cuz mine isn't.

28 posted on 01/20/2013 2:26:57 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ¬ó Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

WHAT??? In Texas??

Or...........maybe it’s just to be assumed. Yeah.

I still want to know how the list was compiled as mine hasn’t issued a statement.


29 posted on 01/20/2013 2:28:28 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Here is an email I just sent to Harris County Sheriff Adrian Garcia. Sadly enough he is a very political democrat as is Houston’s Mayor.

Sheriff Garcia,

Are you going to stand up to President Obama’s illegal attempt to abrogate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution?

It has been clearly detailed in the past that strict gun control laws always lead to confiscation and then ultimately tyranny.

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

I certainly didn’t vote for Obama as President and for darn sure didn’t vote for him to be King.

Here is a list of your fellow Sheriffs who will not allow him to further shred the Constitution and stomp on our unalienable rights as Americans.

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/list-of-sheriffs-standing-up-against-obamas-gun-control-updated/31948/

Thanks,
Tom Eaker


30 posted on 01/20/2013 2:38:36 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ¬ó Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Daffynition

And we thank you.

Others like myself were cleaning our weapons, making the final sight ins and making our final tweaks to our go bags.

There are MANY of us who are awake and listening.


31 posted on 01/20/2013 2:39:05 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: paratrooper82

35 years later, I don’t expect the new researchers to have the intellectual honesty these people did. Today, it’s all about hewing to Liberal orthodoxy with the kind of people that will be carrying out this sort of study.


32 posted on 01/20/2013 2:40:52 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Eaker

It’s a great letter....Have you called, too?


33 posted on 01/20/2013 2:44:43 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I am going to call tomorrow from work.

When I was writing the email and then proof reading I kept taking out cuss words then I would refresh and there were more rather than fewer.

I finally had to start using white-out on the monitor.


34 posted on 01/20/2013 4:19:08 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ¬ó Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker
I finally had to start using white-out on the monitor.

LOL!!!

Don't. It doesn't work. :) :)

35 posted on 01/20/2013 4:24:14 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

A little advance warning would have been helpful!

;<)


36 posted on 01/20/2013 4:29:13 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ¬ó Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

A highlighter’s fine, though. ;)


37 posted on 01/20/2013 4:34:42 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Fred Hayek

The Pine Co. sheriff’s office is where you go to get your out of state CCL signed.


38 posted on 01/20/2013 4:47:27 PM PST by elmorgan
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To: Brad's Gramma

I took it outside and sprayed it real good with brake cleaner.

I’ll give it about thirty minutes and hose it down then I’m sure it will be good as new.

What could go wrong?


39 posted on 01/20/2013 4:51:10 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ¬ó Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

Oh! That’s a grand idea! I’m sure you’ll be back online in a couple of weeks when you get your new computer all hooked up!

Heh


40 posted on 01/20/2013 4:54:13 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Nailbiter

bflr


41 posted on 01/20/2013 4:59:29 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: hadaclueonce

Bumping to the moon...


42 posted on 01/20/2013 6:14:43 PM PST by redhead (Height of futility: Paying taxes to a government without a budget)
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To: Daffynition

Denver yesterday. Son #2. FORMER BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL!!

43 posted on 01/20/2013 6:26:26 PM PST by redhead (Height of futility: Paying taxes to a government without a budget)
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To: eartick

One of the convo themes, frequently heard at our rally, was something like: *my husband/wife would be here, but s/he had to work.* Which is wonderful...no one else is going to put food on the table; and there is a certain gratefulness that one even has a job.

I’m sure that will be times in the not to distant future that you will find a way to have your voice heard in your state. Bless you and be safe!


44 posted on 01/20/2013 6:49:42 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. ¬ó D.H.)
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To: redhead

Lovely! Good reason to be proud.

It must be b/c of your unconditional love and patience. Good job mom!


45 posted on 01/20/2013 6:52:20 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. ¬ó D.H.)
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To: TomasUSMC

ONE county in Ohio, and it ain’t mine. Dang! And I thought my Sheriff was a Conservative.


46 posted on 01/20/2013 7:03:04 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Rusty0604
Sometimes when I post it gets hung for a long time so I have to click the button again. I see double or triple posting here and just figure it happened to them. I don’t think that makes one an idiot.

No, you're not an idiot. Most of the folks on this forum that call others idiots usually need to look into the mirror.

I'll tell you works here though. Rusty, when it looks like it is hung up, it is not. It has posted, just not finalized. For each time, 1 or 100, that you hit the post button it is going to duplicate. Just close the window after a couple of minutes. Go back to the thread and you will see your post. Works every time.

47 posted on 01/20/2013 7:17:35 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TheOldLady

Scroll through the comments. Some were added in there.

If yours ISN’T, give him a respectful phone call tomorrow.


48 posted on 01/20/2013 7:26:21 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: little jeremiah
Happens to me every time I ping one of my lists even when I don’t get hung up and try again. Just one click, and voila! Two or three dupes.

All of the lists that I am on have been tripling for some time. You can bet that John is working on it.

49 posted on 01/20/2013 7:27:53 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Eaker

Great job Eaker.


50 posted on 01/20/2013 7:30:30 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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