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Obama Puts a Bulls-Eye on the Second Amendment
Townhall.com ^ | January 22, 2013 | Robert Knight

Posted on 01/22/2013 9:44:25 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: ClearCase_guy; freedumb2003
For 5 years I'd been telling folks ~ as well as explaining the whys of it all ~ that Romney was the least likely candidate to be able to win against Obama ~ yet they persisted in nominating him.

I am not responsible for that bit of the most utterly stupid political event since the Republicans ran Wendell Willkie (who really was a registered Democrat).

When the party big dogs put in a guy who can't win, it's all their fault.

21 posted on 01/22/2013 10:34:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

Why doesn’t Obomber just gut the bill of rights in its entirety?That way we can be really assured of being safe.

Better yet I’ll take that back because he would probably do it and get away with it knowing the republicans.


22 posted on 01/22/2013 10:35:03 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Triple
Romney wasn't a centrist ~ he may have thought he was, but there's no center in American politics ~ never has been.

He got caught by the Carter kid saying he was trying to get the votes of the undecided 10% in the middle ~ the moderates.

What a complete idiot.

23 posted on 01/22/2013 10:37:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Logical me
Next we will be required to enter a Federal gun registry and then confiscation. Nothing will stop this. King Obama is America's first dictator and will reign supreme.

The Roman historians tell a story about the German hero Arminius, a.k.a. Hermann der Hrusker (the Cheruscan -- the Cherusci were a powerful German tribe in Bavaria 2000 years ago) -- and how he died.

The kings of the German tribes were like the minor khans of central Asia: neighborhood wise men whom people consulted for their knowledge and judgment, and in addition led the German tribes in war. But it was the custom among the Cherusci that kings, like khans, were not absolute rulers but rulers-by-influence, and they never commanded kinsmen but asked them if they would do a thing.

One night in 9 AD after his great victory over the Romans in the Teutoberger Wald, where Arminius's Germans destroyed three full Roman legions and their auxiliaries under Quinctilius Varus in a days-long running battle, Arminius decided that the time had come to assert kingly power over his fellow-tribesmen, and so he picked his moment and directed a command, in the imperative mood, to a cousin. The man froze, as did everyone else, as they realized what was happening, and then the insulted kinsman picked up a spear and drove it right through Arminius, killing him instantly where he sat. Then, untouched, he walked out of the assembly. Nobody laid a finger on him or recriminated, because every man-jack knew he had just defended his, and everyone's, rights and the people's dignity as citizens of the tribe, not subjects of Arminius.

Thus endeth the lesson.

24 posted on 01/22/2013 10:47:48 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Sigurdrifta
Your list is not complete:

Social

Religious

Fiscal

Political (I Think you mean Neocons)

Military

Economic

That's part of the list. Bit we also have:

Hereditary Republicans

Anti slavery Republicans

Traditionalists

and others.

The American Traditionalists are probably the largest group, and they're pretty stable. There's some give and take in the other groups as ethnic groups and geographic regions slide their coalition groups in and out of the major parties.

These elections are not about attracting Democrats to vote for our guys ~ they are primarily about getting Republicans and Conservatives to vote for a Republican, and to convince Democrats to stay home, or better, vote for our guy on specific issues.

Wholesale conversions don't take place in the campaigns ~ that happens long before!

The primaries should give us a pretty good idea of how motivated the regular party voters are to vote for any given candidate, or a category of candidate (e.g. a Conservative vs. a GOP-e type).

At no time in the early primaries did Romney demonstrate that the party's regular voters preferred a GOP-e candidate over a Conservative candidate ~ far from it in fact. He couldn't even win Republican voters to his banner.

25 posted on 01/22/2013 10:52:10 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: lentulusgracchus

Great post.


26 posted on 01/22/2013 10:53:21 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: ClearCase_guy
1) Tell the voters to jump on the bandwagon and support anyone the Establishment picks for them.
2) Break away from the GOP-e mindset, find a candidate -- even if flawed -- who can excite the base.

The RiNO's will never produce an "exciting" candidate. They are hidebound about weeding out anyone with a personality, anyone with spirit and drive, anyone with courage. The RiNO/GOP-e crowd always offers the public noncontroversial, bland, boring, go-along/get-along candidates who won't rock the boat.

27 posted on 01/22/2013 10:53:57 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: muawiyah
At no time in the early primaries did Romney demonstrate that the party's regular voters preferred a GOP-e candidate over a Conservative candidate ~ far from it in fact. He couldn't even win Republican voters to his banner.

McCain's miserable performance of 2008 was still over a million votes better than Romney's.

Romney couldn't catch Obama, even after Obama spotted him 7,000,000 votes. Obama was vulnerable, after everyone saw what a left-wing dweeb he was, and the GOP couldn't catch him even with those huge advantages.

That's just pathetic.

28 posted on 01/22/2013 11:02:14 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Triple

>>Why don’t you also blame the GOPe for running a centrist republican that couldn’t even win his home state?<<

b/c that is not the point of the discussion (A discussion we DAMN WELL better be having now for 2016!!!)

The point is once the candidate is chosen (no matter how bad), the perfect is the enemy of the good. We had Romney shoved down our throats.

In the end, it was WE that chose him. Machinations aside, only little children are influenced by ads and posters. The children won.

Once that bitter pill was created we HAD to swallow it. If we are all saying NEVER AGAIN SUCH A BITTER PILL, great: I am on board (you would think we would have learned from McCain).

But all of life is choosing the least of evils. Rarely do we get to choose from the best goods.

Time for us to grow up.


29 posted on 01/22/2013 11:10:37 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: Kaslin
Federal officials are to clarify that the Obamacare law doesn’t prohibit doctors from asking about guns in patients’ homes. We have to wonder what the physicians are supposed to do with that information

The Affordable Patient Care Act states they are not allowed to do anything with it. They are free to ask. We are free to lie or refuse to answer.

The language in the Obamacare law says that doctors and insurance companies cannot use said info to deny care or raise rates nor can they create any database populated by said info. Nothing more.

30 posted on 01/22/2013 11:10:48 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: fattigermaster
Thanks. The Roman historians did that a lot -- offering observations about the Germans or the Celts, as a way of suggesting acute parallels, or contrasts, with Roman society under the early Empire.
31 posted on 01/22/2013 11:14:26 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: freedumb2003

Romney simply wasn’t marketable ~ he knew it, his eldest son knew it, I knew it. The party didn’t need any more information than that.


32 posted on 01/22/2013 11:42:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: cuban leaf
The stakes were just too high.

Oh, and leaving this clown in office another four years isn't too high a stake?

If the GOP was too cowardly to question voter fraud, because of a perceived outcome, they all must go.

33 posted on 01/22/2013 12:00:54 PM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Logical me

That’s a Civil War II scenario.

Gun Confiscation will just have anyone in a position of authority shot on sight. No small town mayor would be safe.

In my opinion, that’s what enough gun owners will just go out and do.


34 posted on 01/22/2013 12:06:48 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Before we argue, are you approved to speak by the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms and Speech?)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Gun Confiscation will just have anyone in a position of authority shot on sight. No small town mayor would be safe.

Exactly correct. I know that will be the instinct among the small-town folk where I grew up. Local lawyers and judges would be in danger too.

High profile folks would have to quickly and publicly announce which side they were on or flee to the nearest urban area.

35 posted on 01/22/2013 12:13:01 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Lou L

Oh, and leaving this clown in office another four years isn’t too high a stake?


Well, if the alternative is a hot civil war...

>>If the GOP was too cowardly to question voter fraud, because of a perceived outcome, they all must go.<<

I gave up on them when they controlled both sides and the presidency and showed who they really are. My personal belief is that both the US and all of western civilization are on a downward death spiral that will end only when we hit bottom.

And yes, I believe the results will be of biblical proportions.

My faith is not in a political party or the voters. It is in Christ Jesus and God’s word.


36 posted on 01/22/2013 12:15:10 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin

There might be other bulls eyes in other places as well


37 posted on 01/22/2013 12:17:04 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: freedumb2003

My point is that a candidate has to earn each and every vote.

Romney did not earn enough votes.

A candidate earns votes through his appeal - intangible, physical, words, and deeds.

Romney did not have what it took. We got Romney as a candidate *because* the GOPe thought “anyone but Obama” would be good enough. -AND-
It would be too risky to have a candidate that wasn’t GOPe (Palin). Why? Because the GOPe and the democrat party are the two wings of the political ruling class.

The political ruling class will not easily give up its grip on the halls of power in the USA.

We have a fight ahead of us...


38 posted on 01/22/2013 12:28:01 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Kaslin

Bttt.


39 posted on 01/22/2013 12:52:17 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Kaslin

It doesn’t matter what the communist dictator wants to do - he ain’t getting the peoples’ guns without a bloody fight. Lots and lots of people will die and you can take that to the bank.


40 posted on 01/22/2013 12:56:11 PM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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