Republicans are Scared to Death of Obama Because He Wins by Demonizing Opponents

Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 22, 2013 | Rush Limbaugh

[Kaslin]

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RUSH: This Tom Brokaw and Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington, and this is yesterday on the Today show. They're on there with Matt Lauer and they are celebrating. They're celebrating because they think the Republicans have given up, and they're right. Everybody's giving up. My impression is that everybody is giving up and they're waiting for events that nobody can predict to maybe change the direction that we're headed; events that nobody can predict that will stop Obama in his tracks; events that'll happen that will wake people up.

The sense I get is that there's no point in opposing because we're only gonna be hated. There's no point in pointing out where Obama's making a mistake, transforming the country in a bad way, 'cause that's only gonna make us hated and disliked; people aren't gonna like it. We don't want to be hated and disliked. We lost. That's what happens when you lose. The winners get to do whatever they want, and we'll just wait for some unknown series of events, and we'll pray that something karma related will come along and save us, bail us out. That's what I sense is where much of what you would think would be opposition to this in Washington is. First off, Andrea Mitchell.

MITCHELL: It's been so toxic that I think the president is betting that the American people -- it's clear in our polls -- the people are ready fed up with this and that it will be in the Republican Party's advantage to play somewhat toward getting something done. You saw that in Williamsburg, Virginia, with the House caucus last week when Paul Ryan steered the party and the more radical elements of the Tea Party which supported him toward some sort of compromise short term, at least on the debt ceiling.

RUSH: Yeah, let's not oppose anything. Oh, my God, just let Obama have what he wants. You know, people are fed up with us. The Republicans are running around, I think they actually think everybody hates them. Voters, not just Republican supporters, donors, everybody. So the president's betting the American people are fed up with the Republicans. The best thing the Republicans can do is just be invisible and just let Obama have his way. And, of course why wouldn't the media do this? The media has succeeded in making the Republicans think that criticizing Obama is gonna irritate independents, while Romney was winning independents in double digits in five of the eight battleground states. The reason the Republicans lost the election is because they didn't turn out their base.

Let's grab Ivan, Virginia Beach. I'm glad you called, sir. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Oh, thanks, Rush, for having me on.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I just wanted to point out one line that really stuck out to me in this whole speech. I'm paraphrasing, but basically Obama said, "Now is not the time to solve the question, the centuries old question of the role of government, but to solve our current problems now." And to me it's a great sleight of hand because he's kind of pushing the conservatives off to the side while at the same time ignoring the fact that the role of the government is actually the central issue, whether you're talking about the debt, gun control, gay marriage, whatever, it's the role of the federal government that that's the real issue.

RUSH: The centuries old problem over the role of government is exactly the problem. It makes total sense that Obama would want to shove it aside. Look, let's shelve the debate over whether government should be big or not so that I can go ahead and transform this country while nobody's paying attention. And let's go ahead and argue about solving the problems the way I want to solve 'em, because everybody's agreed not to oppose me. So let's just get rid of the negatives that attach to me, and the Republicans are saying, "Okay, if you don't want to talk about the negatives attached to you, we won't." So he's basically asking for a clear road, and he's being given one.

CALLER: Exactly.

RUSH: I think, actually, that Obama believes that the role of government's already been solved. We've got Obamacare. We have the Julia commercial. I think he believes that he's now convinced a majority of Americans that the government should be the central focus of everybody's life in terms of their needs and their wants and their safety and security. You go to government for it. I think he's already succeeded at that. The role of government has been debated, voted on, and solved, and he won. And so Obama basically in his speech yesterday was calling for us to become a country of the government, by the government, and for the government. With him and his buddies in charge of it. Thanks, Ivan.

Mark in Chicago, glad you called, sir. Welcome to the EIB Network.

CALLER: Hey, Rush, thanks for taking my call. And fascinating subject today. I love it. Rush, real quick. I mean, if we were in charge and being a conservative, I mean, my heart's desire, I think all our hearts' desire is to take out the Democrats. And I think we would do it a little differently. We would do it through policy. And, you know, Rush, I'm 54, and in my lifetime, I don't think I've ever seen -- correct me if I'm wrong -- a Republican president that had had the control Obama has had from '08 to '10. And, you know, I think at the end, the people are gonna decide which party is gonna prevail --

RUSH: Well, some might say that George W. Bush had it for a while, but of course he's a different temperament. But, you know, your first point is really important, it's really valid. If the situation were reversed, the way we would be attempting to eliminate opposition is in the arena of ideas. We would not be smearing these people. We wouldn't be running campaign ads telling lies about people, accusing them of murder and all these other things. That's not how we would be doing it. But Obama is doing it that, and he's winning doing that. He is winning telling lies about his opposition. He's triumphing big time doing so. It's an important point. I'm glad you made it, and we will be right back.

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RUSH: I just played Andrea Mitchell in which she expressed satisfaction that the Republicans are scared, given up, exactly as they should. Here's Brokaw weighing in on that idea.

BROKAW: I think it's an indication. I think it's a telltale sign about where the Republicans are. Four years ago when the president was making that speech, Republicans were meeting at night --

MITCHELL: Exactly.

BROKAW: -- trying to decide how they were gonna defeat him when he runs for reelection. They lost that big time. He had a very robust electoral victory and a significant popular vote victory. Now the Republicans are in disarray trying to organize their party so they have a future.

RUSH: They're not even thinking about that yet. The Republican Party is trying to stay out of Obama's crosshairs right now. People who donated to the Republican Party are trying to stay out of Obama's crosshairs right now. There are all kinds of people who think of themselves in the opposition who are trying not to be noticed by Obama right now. There is a profound amount of fear for Obama and what his government could do and might be inclined to do to people to teach them a lesson. So it's low-profile city all the way, and let's just sit back. We can't stop it anyway, so let's hope something comes along outside of anybody's control, some event or series of events that wakes people up and rights the ship. I think that's where people are right now. Not everybody, but a vast majority.

Now, one other thing here about this business of Reagan and transformational and Obama. There's a big distinction here that needs to be made. You have all of these media types marveling here at Obama. I was warning everybody, but they're all sitting there marveling how Obama's replicating and emulating Reagan, changing the trajectory of the country, transforming America, blah, blah, blah. That's not what Reagan did. Reagan mighta changed the trajectory in the sense that he reoriented people's lives to themselves and away from government.

Reagan celebrated the Constitution, the founding, the uniqueness of this country. Reagan respected our democratic system. By transformational applied to Reagan, it means that Reagan was trying to rebuild the country. Reagan was trying to save it. Reagan was attempting to reorient the country toward its founding. That's not what Obama's doing. And yet by giving Obama the imprimatur of Reagan, it's a really dangerous thing to do, because here we have the Republican Party -- well, certain commentators basically awarding Obama with Reaganism and Reagan-type characteristics. And there isn't anything similar.

Reagan did not govern in defiance of the Constitution. Reagan did not govern in defiance of the founding. Reagan was not angry and fed up. Reagan was not about grievance politics. Reagan didn't think that a bunch of people had gotten away with murder in the past and they needed to be gotten even with now. Reagan wasn't about targeting the enemy other than the Soviet Union and other communists. He wasn't about targeting the enemy and wiping them out. You will not find, in eight years of Reagan, anything like what you're reading today about eliminating the Democrats, pulverizing the Democrats, going for the throat, wiping them out. That's not what Reagan was. That's not what Reagan did.

Reagan won in the arena of ideas. Reagan won people's hearts and minds. Obama's not doing that. Obama's not winning with his ideas. Obama's not garnering support for his ideas. This is what frustrates me. Obama is winning purely and simply by lying and demonizing his opposition. Brokaw couldn't be further from the truth here in explaining Obama's victory. (imitating Brokaw) "Oh, yeah, a popular election, he won it big time, very robust electoral victory, significant popular vote."

The Republican base stayed home because they were angry at the Republican Party and at Romney, but people voted against Romney. They were not voting for Obama. This is what everybody misses. Obama had demonized Romney for a full year, and people believed it. They believed that Romney didn't care when a guy's wife died. There has never been a candidate for the White House more charitable, more giving, and more decent. Forget political ideas and concepts, just in terms of humanity, there's never been a better person run for the office than Romney. Maybe some people are close. And to have the American people end up believing that this guy hated dogs, quickly allowed people's wives to die without caring about it and had secret money stashes all over the world, not paying his taxes and so forth. I mean, it was robust, to use Brokaw's language.

It was robust the way Romney was destroyed. That's how Obama wins. And that's what Obama's gonna continue to do, and that's what the media's urging him to do, is the point. Then they come along and say that, "Well, like Reagan, he's transforming America. He's gonna try to fundamentally change the trajectory and so forth." In his dreams Obama will be as successful as Reagan. But one thing Obama couldn't do, he couldn't get close to winning the way Reagan did. He can't get close to emulating Reagan in terms of transforming the country. That's not what Reagan did.

Reagan didn't win by telling lies about his opposition. Reagan didn't win by demonizing everybody. Reagan didn't win by convincing people that the Democrats were big reprobates, you know, human debris and all that. That's all Obama's got. He can't win on the strength of his ideas, and he doesn't run on them. His inaugural address was a bunch of pap and emptiness. It was just more of the same in terms of his lofty plans for a government that was never intended to be, by virtue of the founders of this country. And to attach Reagan to that the way some of these analysts are doing is quite offensive.

"Yeah, well, he seeks fundamental change." He does. But Reagan was a defender of the Constitution, not a destroyer of it. Huge difference. And it is kind of galling. This is why I've been mentioning it, folks. Maybe I haven't been communicating this well enough. Lord knows that's possible. It's just been galling to me to watch the Democrat Party co-opt Ronald Reagan, use him to advance themselves while in the process totally misrepresenting who and what Reagan was and did. And then to have analysts sit by and marvel at it has been a little bit much, tough to take. But it is what's been happening, and continues to.

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RUSH: Look, folks, here's another thing. Apparently Brokaw and Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington, and all the rest of these media people appreciate sleazy campaigns, which is what Obama's campaign was. It was a campaign full of sleaze, and these guys are out there endorsing it and saying, "We need to up the sleaze! Yes, we need now to pulverize the Republicans. We need to strangle the Republicans. We need to take the Republicans out." They're encouraging Obama to do more of this.

Reagan won two landslides. Obama wins, what, 51% or 53%, by three points, whatever it was? Reagan never had a media in his pocket doing his bidding. Obama couldn't win without them running interference for him. I'm just telling you that it galls me a little bit to see all these Reagan comparisons and have them not be properly analyzed. In his dreams and only in his dreams is Obama Reagan, is the point. There aren't any similarities. And yet you wouldn't know that if you pay attention to the Drive-Bys.

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[SoConPubbie]

For what you call heresy, in your mind, perhaps, you do.

No, not in his mind, but by a careful side-by-side comparison between the founding Documents of Mormonism and the Bible, and direct quotes of the leaders of Mormonism and Jesus and his Apostles and the Prophets in the Old Testament.

The flaws, differences, and heresys have been posted over and over and over again. The distinctions have been painfully pointed out over and over again.

Like the Bible states:

Jeremiah 5:21

21Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:

[rollo tomasi]

If the DNC created a composite in 2011 on who Obama would run against and easily beat, the synthesized candidate would be Romney.

Romney fit their Wall Street/OWS "Soros" reaction's premise, this led to many of would-be voters to refuse galvanize behind. Next, Romney was a moderate that did not suit liberty minded individuals to galvanize behind, a.k.a. he was a unabashedly a knavish Statist. Romney fit the Bush clone mantra of a silver spooned moderate who used government to create a cronyistic money machine, thus would not get the cynics to galvanize behind.

Blame should be put on the primary voters/lobbyists who were foolish enough to vote/push for someone like Romney, he was easy prey for the DNC/mediacrats.

[lentulusgracchus]

The correct plural of "heresy" is "heresies".

You proved nothing, except either your ignorance or lack of concern concerning the souls of those trapped in heresy.

I proved that Elsie is buggin' and you're a pecksniff. Perhaps if I were as concerned about heretics as you two seem to be, I'd emulate Bishop Torquemada and send them all to the stake. For the sake of their souls, of course.

Bah.

[lentulusgracchus]

If the DNC created a composite in 2011 on who Obama would run against and easily beat, the synthesized candidate would be Romney.

They did, and it was. Fat-and-evil Donna Brazile (former Gore campaign manager) told us so a year ago, during Georgie Clintonopoulos's Sunday morning show on ABC. She DONE TOLE those white crackers, that every time Romney had a good primary night, Obama had a better one -- because Romney was the weakest of all the Republican potential candidates.

Terry Moron remonstrated with her, protested "but, but, but ...." (she was letting the cat out of the bag), but she stood fast on her comment. She was right, and I knew it then, and so did a lot of people here on FR.

Romney was the Hive Mind's dream opponent. And the Stupid Party walked right into it.

[Elsie]

Nowhere but here on FreeRepublic have I ever encountered "the teachings, videos and their books" that you say are inspiring such hatred.

Of course not; since this HATRED of which you so freely speak has not been shown to exist.

You were SHOWN a lot of DIRECT quotes from MORMON leaders - yet you have NOT commented on them at all.

You seem to be a MORMONism enabler.

[Elsie]

You are mistaken in most of your premises.

Oh?

Could you type up a LIST of them you have detected and show the others reading this thread just what you are talking about?

Vague mental references seem to be missed by most folks.

[Elsie]

Elsie seems tortured by a previous association with Mormonism. I've been tortured by other things in my past, but I got assistance in those areas.

Perhaps your 'torture' filter still exists; since you've detected it in me.

Just EXACTLY which of my posts in this thread seems tortuous to you?

[Elsie]

The second I think I control some sh*t, I'm cooked.

Oh?

You seem to want to CONTROL me to get 'help'.

[Elsie]

As an ex-mormon born into the LDS I haven’t run across any lies being told as yet.

Ha!

You probaly just wanted to sin or drink coffe or sumpin'!

No WONDER yer an EX!

--MormonDude(But we will STILL take you back; and even help you to regain your TR!)

[Elsie]

After you.

HMMMmmm...

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Looks like "C" to me...

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A. If you say something along the lines of “the moderators might ban me for saying this, but…” then you lost.

B. Anyone who says “well, ban me if you want to, but…” is actually saying; “in the name of a loving God, please ban me because I am losing this argument so badly that my only hope of escaping it with a shred of dignity is if I can make myself out to be some sort of martyr to free speech.”

C. If you claim to have supporting evidence available online, but instead of linking to it you say “Look it up yourself,” you lose. Similarly to the banning thing, “look it up yourself” clearly means “please please please don’t look it up yourself.” It’s an admission of failure.

D. If you invoke the name of a logical fallacy without explaining its relevance, you lose. Logical fallacies are not Harry Potter spells. You don’t just get to shout them out and wiggle your wand to make magic happen. Plus, there’s a logical meta-fallacy: Just because someone’s making an error in reasoning doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

E. If you claim to be winning, you lose. This should be self-evident: If you’re so desperate that you have to tell someone you’re winning, you’re obviously not. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/12/alt-text-internet-arguments

 

[Elsie]

And you are correct, when people post directly from their own (lds) words, there can not be incarcerates.

The Typo Police have been contacted.

Until they arrive; amuse yourself with HISTORY...

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The "Caractors" are the only tangible evidence in existence related to Smith's story.

No gold plates, no brass plates, no peep stones, no Urim and Thummim...

only these "Caractors," not a single one of which is in the purported languages.

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Smith's translation of the Caractors. According to Martin Harris (Joseph Smith - History, 1:64), "I went to the city of New York, and presented the characters which had been translated, with the translation thereof, to Professor Charles Anthon, a gentleman celebrated for his literary attainments. Professor Anthon stated that the translation was correct, more so than any he had before seen translated from the Egyptian. I then showed him those which were not yet translated,* and he said they were Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic; and he said they were true characters."

Speak right up now in all truthfulness. Isn't it revealing how Smith started out making a stab at creating believable "caractors" but quckly gave up and produced nothing but squiggles, ending up wih a series of nothing more than crude little scribbles? Yet Professor Anthon supposedly translated them!

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*Harris must have had two or three pieces of paper with him—one with characters and a translation of them (on the same paper or a separate one) and one with untranslated characters—quite likely the "Caractors." Some Mormon "scholars" have gone out on a limb, sawed it off, and knocked themselves out trying to translate from these true Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic characters a segment that would correspond with a verse from 1 Nephi.

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Modern-day experts in Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic. In 1829, any knowledge of these languages possessed by U.S. scholars would have been rudimentary at best. Expertise in them has vastly improved since then. So go ahead, do it. Get any modern expert in these languages to identify which of these "Caractors" are Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac and Arabic. Better still, accept the claim of Mormon apologists that Anthon did indeed so testify and that his appraisal of the Caractors was correct. (Op. cit, pp. 73-75)

Save your money! Samples of Assyriac/Aramaic and Arabic writing:

 

What say you? Which of Smith's "Caractors" resemble the Assyriac and Arabic ones? No need to pay experts for their analysis. A child could accurately check this out. These writing systems have remained constant for well over 3000 years.

[Elsie]

No, not in his mind, but by a careful side-by-side comparison between...

HEY!!

I got's some of that stuff; too!

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See some differences between GOD's Word and the Joseph Smith's 'translation'

 

 

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Color coding explanation:

 

Added stuff... Changed stuff... Rearranged stuff... Removed stuff... 

 *(UNDERLINED stuff is the DISTRACTING reference on every tenth word or so that infuses LDS 'scripture' online.)

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JOSEPH SMITH—MATTHEW An extract from the translation of the Bible as revealed to Joseph Smith the Prophet in 1831: Matthew 23: 39 and chapter 24. Jesus foretells the impending destruction of Jerusalem—He also discourses on the second coming of the Son of Man, and the destruction of the wicked. 1 aFor I say unto you, that ye shall not see me henceforth and know that I am he of whom it is written by the prophets, until ye shall say: Blessed is he who bcometh in the name of the Lord, in the clouds of heaven, and all the holy angels with him. Then understood his disciples that he should come again on the earth, after that he was glorified and ccrowned on the right hand of God. 2 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple; and his disciples came to him, for to ahear him, saying: Master, show us concerning the buildings of the temple, as thou hast said—They shall be thrown down, and left unto you desolate. 3 And Jesus said unto them: See ye not all these things, and do ye not understand them? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here, upon this temple, one astone upon another that shall not be thrown down. 4 And Jesus left them, and went upon the Mount of Olives. And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying: Tell us when shall these things be which thou hast said concerning the destruction of the temple, and the Jews; and what is the asign of thy bcoming, and of the cend of the world, or the destruction of the dwicked, which is the end of the world? 5 And Jesus answered, and said unto them: Take heed that no man deceive you; 6 For many shall come in my name, saying—I am aChrist—and shall deceive many; 7 Then shall they deliver you up to be aafflicted, and shall kill you, and ye shall be bhated of all nations, for my name’s sake; 8 And then shall many be aoffended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another; 9 And many afalse prophets shall arise, and shall deceive many; 10 And because iniquity shall abound, the alove of many shall wax cold; 11 But he that remaineth asteadfast and is not overcome, the same shall be saved. 12 When you, therefore, shall see the aabomination of bdesolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, concerning the destruction of cJerusalem, then you shall stand in the dholy place; whoso readeth let him understand. 13 Then let them who are in Judea flee into the amountains; 14 Let him who is on the housetop flee, and not return to take anything out of his house; 15 Neither let him who is in the field return back to take his clothes; 16 And wo unto them that are with achild, and unto them that give suck in those days; 17 Therefore, pray ye the Lord that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day; 18 For then, in those days, shall be great atribulation on the bJews, and upon the inhabitants of cJerusalem, such as was not before sent upon Israel, of God, since the beginning of their kingdom until this time; no, nor ever shall be sent again upon Israel. 19 All things which have befallen them are only the beginning of the sorrows which shall come upon them. 20 And except those days should be shortened, there should none of their flesh be asaved; but for the elect’s sake, according to the bcovenant, those days shall be shortened. 21 Behold, these things I have spoken unto you concerning the Jews; and again, after the tribulation of those days which shall come upon Jerusalem, if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there, believe him not; 22 For in those days there shall also arise false aChrists, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect, who are the elect according to the covenant. 23 Behold, I speak these things unto you for the aelect’s sake; and you also shall hear of bwars, and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled, for all I have told you must come to pass; but the end is not yet. 24 Behold, I have told you before; 25 Wherefore, if they shall say unto you: Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: Behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not; 26 For as the light of the morning cometh out of the aeast, and shineth even unto the west, and covereth the whole earth, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. 27 And now I show unto you a parable. Behold, wheresoever the acarcass is, there will the eagles be bgathered together; so likewise shall mine elect be gathered from the four quarters of the earth. 28 And they shall hear of wars, and rumors of wars. 29 Behold I speak for mine elect’s sake; for nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there shall be afamines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 30 And again, because iniquity shall abound, the love of men shall wax acold; but he that shall not be overcome, the same shall be saved. 31 And again, this aGospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world, for a witness unto all bnations, and then shall the end come, or the destruction of the wicked; 32 And again shall the aabomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, be fulfilled. 33 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the asun shall be bdarkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the cstars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 34 Verily, I say unto you, this ageneration, in which these things shall be shown forth, shall not pass away until all I have told you shall be fulfilled. 35 Although, the days will come, that heaven and earth shall pass away; yet my awords shall not pass away, but all shall be fulfilled. 36 And, as I said before, after the atribulation of those days, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken, then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven, and then shall all the tribes of the earth bmourn; and they shall see the cSon of Man dcoming in the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory; 37 And whoso atreasureth up my word, shall not be deceived, for the Son of Man shall bcome, and he shall send his cangels before him with the great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together the dremainder of his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 38 Now learn a parable of the afig-tree—When its branches are yet tender, and it begins to put forth leaves, you know that summer is nigh at hand; 39 So likewise, mine elect, when they shall see all these things, they shall know that he is near, even at the doors; 40 But of that day, and hour, no one aknoweth; no, not the angels of God in heaven, but my Father only. 41 But as it was in the days of aNoah, so it shall be also at the coming of the Son of Man; 42 For it shall be with them, as it was in the days which were before the aflood; for until the day that Noah entered into the ark they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage; 43 And aknew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. 44 Then shall be fulfilled that which is written, that in the alast days, two shall be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other bleft; 45 Two shall be grinding at the mill, the one shall be taken, and the other left; 46 And what I say unto one, I say unto all men; awatch, therefore, for you know not at what hour your Lord doth come. 47 But know this, if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to have been broken up, but would have been ready. 48 Therefore be ye also aready, for in such an hour as ye think not, the Son of Man cometh. 49 Who, then, is a afaithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 50 Blessed is that aservant whom his lord, when he cometh, shall find so doing; and verily I say unto you, he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 51 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart: My lord adelayeth his coming, 52 And shall begin to smite his fellow-servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken, 53 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 54 And shall cut him asunder, and shall appoint him his portion with the hypocrites; there shall be weeping and agnashing of teeth. 55 And thus cometh the aend of the wicked, according to the prophecy of Moses, saying: They shall be cut off from among the people; but the end of the earth is not yet, but by and by. The Official Scriptures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © 2006 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. Rights and use information. Privacy policy.

KJV Matthew 23:38-39 24:1-51 39. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. 1. And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8. All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16. Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17. Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18. Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20. But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25. Behold, I have told you before. 26. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39. And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46. Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49. And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50. The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. King James Version of the Holy Bible Public domain

[Elsie]

The correct plural of "heresy" is "heresies".

I see the TP have finally arrived.

How much farther behind are the LOGIC Police???

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I proved that Elsie is buggin' and you're a pecksniff.

[Elsie]

Perhaps if I were as concerned...

Your choice.

You either care about Christianity or you don't.

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Acts 18:11
    So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.

 

 

 

 

 

Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

 

 

Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

 

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.

 

 

Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.

 

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

 

2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.

 

 

 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.

 

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

 

 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

 

 

Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

 

 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.

 

 

Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

 

 

 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.

 

 

 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

 

 

2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

[Elsie]

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2012-06-17/mormon-lds-ex-mormon/55654242/1

[Elsie]

My name is Michelle

[exit82]

This article being discussed has nothing to do with Mormonism.

FR’s homepage doesn’t even mention Mormonism, nor saving others from its ills as part of its mission.

Another thread has been hijacked to serve your purposes.

There is a Religion section that you can rail all day on about Mormonism.

This is the News/Activism section.

Quite frankly, FR almost imploded last August thanks to your incessant and relentless postings about Mormonism and those of your allies.

I know that for my troubles in pointing this out, I will now be the recipient of about 150 posts about how wrong I am, how I am not a true conservative, not a true christian, etc.

Save yourself the trouble. I have seen it all before, and most of it and your arguments you have simply repeated ad nauseum on this very thread.

As for Laz, he has given you very good advice. You should take it.

We are here to discuss political and conservative issues on this part of the forum. You should respect that.

[fattigermaster]

I confess coffee has been my favorite drink ever since. Still not a big alcohol drinker, but dark cuban style coffee all day long, ever since I announced I wasn’t going on a mission and chose to go to school.

But my family shunned me for the following twentyfive years, so leaving had its costs as well as its benefits.

[Elsie]

This article being discussed has nothing to do with Mormonism.

It was robust the way Romney was destroyed.

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Payback's a bitch.

[Elsie]

We are here to discuss political and conservative issues on this part of the forum.

Go for it!