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Over 150 sponsors pull out of Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show; causing concern over fate of show
CBS21 ^ | Jan. 22, 2013 | Chris Papst

Posted on 01/22/2013 4:21:47 PM PST by Second Amendment First

The Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show is billed as the largest show of its kind in North America. But after the event made a decision to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines, it may now lose that title.

"We felt that getting involved last year was a good business decision. It has a lot of coverage, a lot of exposure," said Ben Bode of Trop Gun Shop in Elizabethtown.

Trop was one of the first vendors to boycott the show, and their customers responded. Trop's Facebook page exploded with 'likes', they received letter, faxes and praise from clients.

But that's not the case for the nine-day-long show, which is scheduled to begin on February 2.

Since the announcement of the ban, this Facebook page calling for a boycott already has nearly 10,000 likes. This is the Facebook list of vendors that have pulled out; more than 175 along with 20 celebrity speakers.

"While it was certainly a big decision, we could not rectify participating in something like that with an organization that is not supporting our second amendment rights." Bode said.

We did ask Bode at Trop Gun Shop if the store would consider going back to the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show if the organizers dropped the ban. And he said no, the damage has been done.

The show has about 1200 vendors, so about 15% are gone.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; easternsports; guncontrol; gunshowpullout; harrisburggunshow; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/22/2013 4:21:57 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Love it!


2 posted on 01/22/2013 4:25:15 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: Second Amendment First

15% of the vendors pulling out? That’s a huge percentage.

I wonder if they had to pay a fee and will now lose their money.


3 posted on 01/22/2013 4:28:29 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Second Amendment First

We Conservatives don’t boycott often, but when we do, it is with TEETH!


4 posted on 01/22/2013 4:29:32 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: Second Amendment First

(reposted from the Ruger thread noting their pullout)

This represents a big $$$ commitment on their part, and on the part of all that have pulled out. By this time, as close to the show as we are, they are eating alot of money to pull out, without having the income from the show to offset the up-front costs.

It is very unlikely they will get the money back for their booth space, they have already spent money prepping the booth and exhibit materials, booking flights and hotels rooms etc., which may or may not be refundable depending on specific conditions, and their internal people have spent time preparing exhibits, producing print materials, and conducting various marketing efforts related to the show, some of which may be reusable, some not.

And as was mentioned, some vendors, maybe not specifically Ruger, but certainly the more local Mom and Pops, stand to lose significant revenues for the year by backing out of the show.

Check the list and support who you can in your area that pulled out, as well as the bigger companies like Ruger, et al that stood up to the exhibit company/promoters PC supplicating decision.


5 posted on 01/22/2013 4:32:03 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: freedumb2003

It sure is ... look at the crowd that showed up to support Chic-fil-a

... now if we could just have a candidate to get behind with such fervor


6 posted on 01/22/2013 4:33:19 PM PST by sawmill trash (Just clinging)
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To: x1stcav

Vendors of fishing gear, clothes, camping gear and travel trailers always outnumbered gun vendors so this show is gonna be a total snoregasm.

HA HA.


7 posted on 01/22/2013 4:34:02 PM PST by Salamander (Put some workboots in the drier. Recite Dr Seuss. Now you're a rapper!)
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To: Second Amendment First

It would be interesting to know what the breakeven point is for Reed; i.e. how much revenue they need before they make a profit.


8 posted on 01/22/2013 4:35:45 PM PST by patriotsblood
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To: sawmill trash
Your words, and simular from other posters, is the reason I don't believe we legitimately lost the election.

Protesting an exhibition that one can recover from is a far cry from protesting an election that is a bullet in your head dead.

9 posted on 01/22/2013 4:40:23 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: CottonBall
“I wonder if they had to pay a fee and will now lose their money.”

Yes, and a small exhibitor is losing $7,000 he had to pay.

10 posted on 01/22/2013 4:41:15 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: patriotsblood

“It would be interesting to know what the breakeven point is for Reed; i.e. how much revenue they need before they make a profit.”

I thought I had read somewhere that there would be no refunds for those who pull out of the show.


11 posted on 01/22/2013 4:41:30 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: CottonBall
“I wonder if they had to pay a fee and will now lose their money.”

Yes, and a small exhibitor is losing $7,000 he had to pay.

12 posted on 01/22/2013 4:43:25 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Salamander

Hey! There is always beef jerky, knives and that fake Indian jewelry LOL


13 posted on 01/22/2013 4:43:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: patriotsblood

It would be more interesting to know the ROI expected by the remaining exhibitors individually as a result of attending this event. Many have a tight tradeshow budget and will not return to a show that failed to pay out in orders written.

So, if one were to want to make it a very effective boycott, the objective would be to dissuade *buyers* from attending the show, not exhibitors, although the loss of major players from the floor of the exhibition halls will have an effect as far as putting a damper on the event.


14 posted on 01/22/2013 4:43:58 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: CottonBall

yes they lost their reservation deposit


15 posted on 01/22/2013 4:44:38 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CottonBall

Typical for shows like this, your deposit was in almost a year ago.

Typically, if you pull out this close to the opening, it will be forfeit. But I think these vendors are willing to bank that if they don’t make a stand now, other show organizers will pull the same crpola. (Reason being organizers think they have to cow tow to the local yocals for their show permits.)

Think of it as an “investment.” Vendors are telling organizers “you can’t make a decision like this without risk.”

In Cabella’s case, I’m just guessing here because of course I don’t know, but I think its: “don’t assume you got us by the short hairs just because of a deposit.”

The friction between vendors and organizers can run deep, that I do know for sure.


16 posted on 01/22/2013 4:45:43 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: freeangel

I’m not usually litigious minded, but in this case it is warranted. To change the rules like this a week or two prior is bad form. Should take a good hard look at the fine print of the vendor agreements...


17 posted on 01/22/2013 4:45:53 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: x1stcav

Seems to me that everybody should have just ignored the politics as pure rhetoric and continued on as usual, but that’s just me.


18 posted on 01/22/2013 4:47:44 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: freeangel

The revenue from selling exhibit space is only one revenue stream; Reed also makes money from selling tickets to the attendees of the show. My guess is that word is spreading through the outdoors community and that attendance will be proportionally affected by the withdrawal of key exhibitors.


19 posted on 01/22/2013 4:49:13 PM PST by patriotsblood
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To: All

it is such a MASSIVE show.

they could survive with only a 15% loss.

however the attendees have to stay away.

If nobody shows up then they are toast for breach since THEIR actions created the negative publicity.

How many RV dealers? how many boat dealers?

I can’t believe Polaris is still there, they sell Victory motorcycles.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 4:51:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Second Amendment First

It wouldn’t surprise me if Dick’s Sporting Goods will be there. Those guys sold ARs for a couple of months (great sales figures by the way) and then collapsed to political correctness after the Sandy Hook crime.


21 posted on 01/22/2013 4:51:46 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: patriotsblood

how many are presold?

How many there will be fat old unionistal elderly looking at RV’s?

How many there will be fishermen who hate hunters in general?

How many will be reporters spewing MSM propaganda?


22 posted on 01/22/2013 4:54:31 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: patriotsblood
-- My guess is that word is spreading through the outdoors community and that attendance will be proportionally affected by the withdrawal of key exhibitors. --

Exhibitors are already invested, attendees are not. It's easier for an attendee to skip than for a vendor to skip. Just saying, I think attendance will be off by a bigger fraction than the percentage of boycotting vendors. If 15% of the vendors boycott, maybe 25-30% of the attendees will.

And some of the attendees now know the name "Reed", and will be looking for it, as long as they live.

23 posted on 01/22/2013 4:54:50 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: knarf

Before I get slammed, I have to agree with you.

I think this last election stinks. And IMHO, it was boosted via electronic voting machine.

They were hacked.

Can’t prove it, got no evidence, but like you, when I traveled a HEAVILY democrat district here in Coal Country PA, that had miles and miles of yard signs (not on public property, but in the yards of homes) that said: “Stop the War on Coal, Fire Obama.” (many of those signs are STILL up) I really thought it was over for him.

These were his own people. Voted for him first time out.
I was really surprised the day after, and still have a bitter taste that this illegitimate, undocumented president won term 2 by computer fraud.


24 posted on 01/22/2013 4:56:15 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: longtermmemmory

That’s very disappointing as I own a Victory and I love my bike. I suppose Polaris is there to sell their utilities to hunters and the like. They probably did not factor in the AR ban and the reaction to it when they committed to participating in the show. I will be sending them an e-mail encouraging them to not participate.


25 posted on 01/22/2013 4:57:10 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Second Amendment First

Pols in DC had better see the support and unity of the AR!


26 posted on 01/22/2013 5:04:47 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: spodefly

This is an entire thread devoted to following the boycott and who to call etc.

http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/199965-no-tactical-weapons-allowed-harrisburg-sport-show-page-37.html


27 posted on 01/22/2013 5:06:29 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: longtermmemmory

I think you are right.

Too many people go there for too many different reasons.

Only a hand full of campers and anglers will give a flying trout fly patooti about the “gun guys.”

Bottom line, show WILL GO ON! Now, question is, will they rethink their stupidity in the future?

After all, Cabellas is a BIG chunk of change. Will take almost a couple hundred ma and pa fly fishing vendors to make that one up!

LOL, I would LOVE to be in the board meeting when this fiasco is discussed and EVERYONE looks down the table at the wizard of pc smart who cooked this one up! “But you SAID the public would be on OUR SIDE! IDIOT”

I personally think some marketing moron is going to be looking for a new gig.


28 posted on 01/22/2013 5:07:16 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: mylife

Wait, what? It’s not ALL fake is it?

Seriesly, when “We The People” want something to happen, we usually get it. We just need a leader.


29 posted on 01/22/2013 5:10:06 PM PST by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: Second Amendment First

http://mynortheastoutdoors.com/esos-boycott-supporters/

A list of boycotting companies. It will hopefully grow.


30 posted on 01/22/2013 5:12:16 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (John Winthrop's "City upon a Hill" just became a midden heap. Infested with rats and other vermin.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Ha Ha!


31 posted on 01/22/2013 5:14:00 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Second Amendment First
Free Republic is a worldwide forum, international and national.
Posting anything that does not identify the state where it happens is provincialism bordering on life membership in the "LIVC" (Low Information Voters Club.)

Yes I know how to use Google, but on my schedule not to unravel an incomptent story. Nothing is that interesting.

32 posted on 01/22/2013 5:14:36 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: elkfersupper
Seems to me that everybody should have just ignored the politics as pure rhetoric and continued on as usual, but that’s just me.

Rhetoric? Reed (the show organizer) changed the rules at the last minute to forbid the sale or display of so-called 'assault weapons', which adversely affected many of the firearms dealers and manufacturers who'd booked space at their show.

If they won't be allowed to display and sell their best selling goods, what is the point of following through by attending? They're going to be financially injured by Reed's last minute decision. I'll bet dollars to donuts that some of these companies already have letters from their attorneys en route to Reed's offices.

33 posted on 01/22/2013 5:14:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Second Amendment First

http://www.facebook.com/TropGunShop?fref=ts


34 posted on 01/22/2013 5:18:35 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GRRRRR

I don’t know LOL
I don’t look at that stuff.


35 posted on 01/22/2013 5:19:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Second Amendment First

Although only 150 vendors out of 1200 have dropped out, the bottom will fall out of this show, as it should very soon.


36 posted on 01/22/2013 5:29:25 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Protestors are the next platform.

Those strechpants overweight rv / fisher peoples will really not want to run that gauntlet even if there is free parking now.

when s&w was almost destroyed it was british investors that did the bonehead choices.

too bad there is no venue for a competing show.


37 posted on 01/22/2013 5:34:45 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Windflier

The paid for a table not a propaganda position.


38 posted on 01/22/2013 5:39:09 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Supposedly, they're working on a "virtual" show to sell their wares online and all of the vendors who opted out are to be represented? There's also a potential class action suit brewing as well. Here.
39 posted on 01/22/2013 5:45:36 PM PST by Sylvester McMonkey McBean
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To: CottonBall; All

The article says 175. The last list I saw was 200, and the list is growing.

I read something about Reed Exhibitions making a statement today or tomorrow, but I have not seen it.


40 posted on 01/22/2013 5:49:51 PM PST by marktwain
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To: longtermmemmory
ROTFLMFAO, Didn't think of that one fer shure.

Those strechpants overweight rv / fisher peoples will really not want to run that gauntlet even if there is free parking now.

Don't know how many good ol boyz will be out there protesting with signs, but then again those "stretch pantz" putzs are a breed apart.

You NEVER KNOW whatcher gonna get with THAT bunch! They may get p!!ssed because a guy with a sign (which they CAN'T read) is outside the door!

LOL,

I know you know what I mean. It'll be interesting.

41 posted on 01/22/2013 5:49:58 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Wouldn’t it be nice if there was a list of businesses that are boycotting the show so folks could actually order from THEM directly,,during the show?


42 posted on 01/22/2013 5:54:08 PM PST by austinaero
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To: RegulatorCountry

Thinking it’s not just this year. Reed has exposed themselves. Wonder if this show will EVER be the same again. Hopefully and alternative show will spring up next year, built around those businesses who pulled out this year. Screw Reed.


43 posted on 01/22/2013 5:56:18 PM PST by austinaero
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To: publius911

Got to agree with that all the way.

Hate mucho when folks “assume” you know what city and state to which they are referring.

Like in MY world, everyone just KNOWS you live in the “Burgh.”

After that, yinz’re all ferriners and don’t matter fer doodily squat anywayz.


44 posted on 01/22/2013 5:56:46 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: CottonBall

>>I wonder if they had to pay a fee and will now lose their money.

I would think that by changing the rules at the last minute that the organizer would be at risk for lawsuits to force them to refund everything.


45 posted on 01/22/2013 6:19:51 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Pols in DC had better see the support and unity of the AR!

Pols in DC could care less about support and unity behind the AR. Next election is 22 months away. They're pretty sure we're all going to forget about this by then.

Besides, they still count their own votes. We've been pwned by 0bama and that's just the way it is.

46 posted on 01/22/2013 6:54:01 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Withdraws from Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show
Ammoland ^ | Jan 22, 2013 | Ammoland
Excerpt:
"RMEF believes the actions taken by Reed, a British company, are detrimental to the Second Amendment and our right as Americans to bear arms."


47 posted on 01/22/2013 7:18:07 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Typically, if you pull out this close to the opening, it will be forfeit.

Then again if a sponsor pulled out because the rules were changed so that the sponsor could not display his legal products the sponsor would have a tort.

48 posted on 01/22/2013 7:24:02 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Typically, if you pull out this close to the opening, it will be forfeit.

Then again if a sponsor pulled out because the rules were changed so that the sponsor could not display his legal products the sponsor would have a tort.

49 posted on 01/22/2013 7:24:27 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: Second Amendment First

The Shot Show

15-18 Jan 2013
Firearms, Hunting & Outdoor Products & Law Enforcement Products.

Sands Expo & Convention Center, Las Vegas, NV, United States


This was one of Reed’s shows that just finished up. I can’t imagine this show blocking AR-15s and high cap magazines with law enforcement in attendance.


50 posted on 01/22/2013 7:40:17 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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