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Sudden Redistricting Vote Surprises Virginia Democrats
Newsplex ^ | 1/22/13

Posted on 01/22/2013 6:56:55 PM PST by Libloather

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - A day after Virginia Senate Republicans staged a surprise reapportionment of all 40 Senate districts, it was met by ominous warnings from Democrats and nervous dismay by the state's Republican governor and House Republicans.

On a party-line power play Monday, the Senate's 20 Republicans struck with one of the 20 Senate Democrats absent and abruptly amended a House bill that previously made minor technical adjustments to House districts.

Sen. John Watkins' amendment - never vetted by a committee - adds a sixth majority-black district but substantially strengthens the number of GOP districts.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; mcdonnell; redistricting; vageneralassembly; virginia; vote
"On a day when Americans celebrated Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday and inaugurated Barack Obama as President, Virginia Senate Republicans took advantage of the absence of civil rights leader Sen. Henry Marsh to push through a hyper-partisan change to Virginia's already gerrymandered legislative district map."

Maybe charge Henry for being AWOL.

1 posted on 01/22/2013 6:57:03 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I’m sure the Democrats would nevvvvvvvvvver do anything like this. Hope your Governor signs it. About time we had some Republicans show some spine.


2 posted on 01/22/2013 7:04:57 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Libloather

Democrats did this in Maryland with the successful intention of getting rid of conservative Congressman Roscoe Bartlett. They thought redistricting was peachy-keen then.


3 posted on 01/22/2013 7:06:12 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Libloather

No mercy on these dumocrap pukes. This is what you get for wetting yourselves over Buttcrack’s coronation LOL


4 posted on 01/22/2013 7:06:33 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Libloather

Was just over at the du-mp and they are all up in arms about this. Wonder if they would be so distraught if the redistricting benefited dems?? Just saying.


5 posted on 01/22/2013 7:08:42 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Libloather

I can’t think a better way for Virginians to CELEBRATE Dr. King than by creating a black-majority district.

What’s the big deal?


6 posted on 01/22/2013 7:15:38 PM PST by BobL
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To: Grams A

Oh, my heart bleedsds. Here in AZ, the Dems lied and manipulated and stole two seats away from us in the last election and we DID NOTHING..not even our Governor, Jan Brewer, had the balls to stand up to them. If we ever hope to take back this Country, we must learn to play in their sandbox and bend the rules, just like they do. Good for Virginia.


7 posted on 01/22/2013 7:17:57 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Libloather

What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gerrymander


8 posted on 01/22/2013 7:24:56 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Libloather

this is how you play politics....


9 posted on 01/22/2013 7:48:55 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: Hildy

Ditto. They broke so many ‘rules’. But ‘rules’ are for those who care about the law. Districts should be drawn by computer and rely solely on population. That is the only way we will ever get ‘fair’ Districts.


10 posted on 01/22/2013 7:54:19 PM PST by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Libloather
"That's going to attract a lot of bad press," said Kyle Kondik, with the University of Virginia Center for Politics.

This is too funny - on WMAL they said the missing dem was at the immaculation. I can't stop grinning.

11 posted on 01/22/2013 8:01:48 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (#include <std.disclaimers>)
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To: Libloather

Good job, Virginia Republicans! Now let’s teach the RNC and the fed-level Repubs how to rise to the level of toughness that can take on the Dems nationally.


12 posted on 01/22/2013 8:23:21 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Libloather
Virginia's already gerrymandered legislative district map."

The senate map is "already gerrymandered", but in a way that was skewed heavily for the democrats, yielding them 50% of the seats in the last election, with only 40% of the vote, while sticking republicans in districts (like mine) where the winner gets 72% of the vote.

This was really minor payback, creating another minority distric, which means probably another black representative in the senate, but also likely giving the republicans a 1-seat majority in the next election.

That will help especially if we manage to lose the lt Governor race in the 2013 election.

13 posted on 01/22/2013 8:41:39 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hildy

We need to take all the elected Republicans, strip them of their trappings and throw them in the ghetto or send them to Afghanistan for about a month. Those that survive can return to office. Those that don’t, too bad. Time to quit electing the country gentlemen and get some street fighters.


14 posted on 01/22/2013 9:33:17 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Libloather

This is awesome!


15 posted on 01/22/2013 9:37:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Libloather
...nervous dismay by the state's Republican governor and House Republicans.

IF this is true, these guys should get "LOSER" tattooed on their foreheads.

16 posted on 01/22/2013 9:41:51 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Libloather

Let’s hope the Gov is smart enough to sign it.


17 posted on 01/22/2013 9:46:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Why do you think we’d lose the Lt Gov race?


18 posted on 01/22/2013 9:47:23 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Hildy

AMEN!


19 posted on 01/22/2013 9:49:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Libloather; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”On a party-line power play Monday, the Senate's 20 Republicans struck with one of the 20 Senate Democrats absent and abruptly amended a House bill that previously made minor technical adjustments to House districts.
Sen. John Watkins’ amendment - never vetted by a committee - adds a sixth majority-black district but substantially strengthens the number of GOP districts.
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The reapportionment would take away Democrat Creigh Deeds’ district, and put him in the same district as Republican Emmett Hanger. Deeds currently represents Charlottesville and parts of Albemarle County, among other counties.
Political experts say the re-drawn district would likely favor Republicans, and put Deeds in danger of losing his seat to Hanger. Hanger voted in favor of the new boundaries on Monday. Deeds voted against. “

I saw this on Maddow tonight and she gave me a big laugh.
Dem Watkins was at the big Obama/MLK celebration instead of there voting against this.
Perfect day for a vote.
Hey, it was not a paid holiday for me!

20 posted on 01/22/2013 10:32:04 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Libloather

If this were the Democrats, the media would be celebrating their political skills. In a just world, the Democrats would be charged under RICO statues and the media would be forced into bankruptcy due to complete corruption and re-organized under Chapter 11.


21 posted on 01/23/2013 7:17:19 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Libloather

I am glad SOME ‘Pubbies are showing some guts.
Democrats are an enemy. Show no mercy, and no pity.
Legislatively speaking, of course.


22 posted on 01/23/2013 7:42:57 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg

I assume that you saw that the VA Senate approved, on a 20-19 vote (with one Democrat absent because he went to Obama’s inauguration), a new state senate redistricting map that turns the Democrat gerrymander (under which the GOP barely got a 20-20 tie in 2011 despite winning the statewide state senate vote by 57%-40%) into a Republican gerrymander (where the GOP likely will have at least a 26-14 majority after the 2015 elections), but also creates a sixth black-majority district. The bill moved to the Republican House of Delegates, and if the Delegates go along with it, to Gov. McDonnell’s desk. Most VA Republicans outside the Senate have expressed disappointment with the tactics used (they were necessary because GOP Lt. Gov. Bolling had told the Senate leader that he was opposed to the measure), but I think it will be approved and signed into law. Democrats will challenge it both before the Justice Department (VA is subject to Section 5 preclearance under the VRA, unless SCOTUS declares Section 5 preclearance unconstitutional later this year) and in state court (the VA constitution says that redistricting must take place in years that end in 1, but it doesn’t say that no other redistricting may occur during the decade, and in fact the congressional map wasn’t drawn until 2012 and technical amendments to redistricting plans have been approved in the past), and I won’t hazard a guess as to how it will all turn out. Here’s a good article on the bill: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/va-republicans-move-on-redistricting-draws-criticism/2013/01/22/f7645ee8-64b9-11e2-9e1b-07db1d2ccd5b_story.html

Well, the VA Senate did another interesting thing today. A Senate sub-committee approved a bill to change the allocation of EVs from winner-takes-all to allocation by CD. It will now go to a full committee, and it appears to be on its way to approval by party-line vote (unless Lt. Gov. Bolling, who is considering running for governor as an Independent this year, votes against it). The bill would establish a ME/NE method of allocation, with an interesting twist: instead of giving the extra two EVs to the statewide winner, it would give them to the winner of the most CDs in the state. So had the system been in place in 2012 (when Romney carried 7 CDs and Obama carried 4 (one extremely narrowly)), Romney would have won 9 of VA’s 13 EVs, as opposed to 7 of 13 under a ME/NE system or 0 under winner-takes-all. One thing I hadn’t considered was that ME and NE aren’t subject to Section 5 of the VRA, and that the Justice Department may try to block such a system being adopted in VA. Here’s the story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-lawmakers-move-to-change-states-system-for-apportioning-presidential-electoral-votes/2013/01/23/f254adb8-657c-11e2-889b-f23c246aa446_story.html

As I posted on FR a week or so ago (see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2977499/posts?page=56#56, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2977499/posts?page=65#65 and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2977499/posts?page=74#74), if VA, PA, OH, MI, WI and FL adopt a ME/NE EV apportionment system, the GOP would be in the catbird seat to win the White House in 2016 and beyond. I had not considered an allocation method such as the one in the VA bill, but if all six states were to adopt that method, then Romney would have received 280 EVs in 2012 instead of 268 had the six states used the ME/NE system or 306 with all six using winner takes all. I can’t think of any downside to having all six states allocate EVs in the way that VA is contemplating.


23 posted on 01/23/2013 1:18:16 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT; Perdogg
“I can’t think of any downside to having all six states allocate EVs in the way that VA is contemplating.”

Unless you made a mistake with your math (not that I can see one), I completely agree with you. This is an EXCELLENT idea!

p.s. Ken Cuccinelli would make a formidable POTUS candidate. Articulate, well spoken, very bright, comes from a swing state. Me likey.

24 posted on 01/23/2013 3:31:20 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“p.s. Ken Cuccinelli would make a formidable POTUS candidate. Articulate, well spoken, very bright, comes from a swing state. Me likey.”


Let him win the governor’s race first. But I agree, he’s top-notch, and I’ve kept an eye out for him since he became AG.


25 posted on 01/23/2013 3:52:05 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I think proportional distribution was the norm prior to 1960. Not only does it return us to the purpose of the ec, it is a firewall against “spigot cities”. Dem fraud can only steal districts they already control.


26 posted on 01/23/2013 4:01:05 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Agreed!


27 posted on 01/23/2013 4:10:42 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: Dead Dog

Proportional distribution was never the norm, as states traditionally saw concentrating their EVs as the way to exert the most influence.

I suspect that any measures actually to do this in “swing” states will face aggressive judicial challenge on civil rights grounds. The Democrats batted close to 1.000 in those challenges (against early voting and voter ID) last year, so no reason to doubt their success this time. These measures would “work” for their Republican sponsors only because they would effectively dilute geographically concentrated minority votes (and can only be enacted by Republican legislative majorities elected in the same diluting fashion), and signed by Governors elected in low-minority-participation non-Presidential elections.


28 posted on 01/23/2013 4:27:43 PM PST by only1percent
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To: AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy; PhilCollins; MitchellC; ...

This is AWESOME. I have a Marshal stiffy. (watch “Justified” on FX)

It was long past due for the GOP to grow some nads and do something like this. Bill Bolling is a piece of crap for standing the way. Why don’t you want your own party to have more seat, Billie?

Maybe if it all works out and we keep the Governor’s office (Bolling if you run as an Indie and throw it to the rat I will go out there to VA just put a flaming bag of poo on your doorstep) they can redo the congressional map, improve the 11th which is now unwinnable (or is NOVA so lost we should leave it as is?).

I also LOVE the “twist” they put on the E vote idea. Someone in the VA Senate is using their brain, and nads. I want to know who the mastermind is so we can elect him RNC chair.

Such an encouraging development, I’m almost afraid to believe it and be pleased.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 12:36:19 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Dead Dog; only1percent; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Proportional distribution of electoral votes?

I don’t know of any state ever doing it that way. That’s a pretty modern idea.


30 posted on 01/24/2013 12:38:08 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy

We can’t make the VA-11 winnable without endangering other CDs, and we certainly could never draw 9 CDs that we would carry in a presidential election in which the Republican didn’t win a large statewide majority. In fact, when VA picks up a 12th CD after the 2020 Census, we should draw a second black-majority CD (one solely in Hampton Roads, the other from Richmond to the black areas in the new SD-25 and beyond)) and a second rural/suburban NoVA GOP district and combine the VA-02 with the eastern part of the VA-04 (I suspect that Forbes would retire by then) so as to ensure that we win majorities in 8 out of 12 CDs (currently Rigell’s VA-02 voted for Obama and several other gave Romney 50%-52%, too close for comfort) and thus lock in 10 EVs from VA.


31 posted on 01/24/2013 2:16:26 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; MitchellC

By the way, if VA, PA, OH, MI, WI and FL adopt a modified ME/NE EV allocation system in which the extra two EVs go to the candidate who wins the most CDs in the state, then I strongly would encourage NC (which now has a GOP governor to go with its GOP House and Senate) to adopt such a method as well. In 2012, Romney would have been elected with 277 EVs had all 7 states adopted the modified ME/NE allocation method, and would have received that number even had Obama carried NC (which Romney carried by only 2%).


32 posted on 01/24/2013 6:38:00 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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