Seau's family sues NFL over brain injuries

foxnews.com ^ | 1/23/13 | ap

[ColdOne]

The family of Junior Seau has sued the NFL, claiming the former linebacker's suicide was the result of brain disease caused by violent hits he sustained while playing football.

The wrongful death lawsuit, filed Wednesday in California Superior Court in San Diego, blames the NFL for its "acts or omissions" that hid the dangers of repetitive blows to the head. It says Seau

[fr_freak]

Guys who are college age are grown men. If they can vote, serve in war, sign contracts, etc., then they are grown men. Acting as if they are still children is wrong. If we want to pretend that people are still children with no accountability for their own actions well into their 20s, then let's quit fooling around and move the voting age to 30. Part of being an adult is that you must learn that ALL decisions are your own, because YOU are the one who will bear the consequences. If you choose to subordinate your decision-making to the elite "experts", especially when the "experts" are telling you something that defies even the most basic common sense, that is still a decision.

That said, if the NFL deliberately lied to these guys, they deserve to get burned, and I won't shed a tear for them.

[discostu]

That’s the scary implication of stuff like the Seau and Chris Henry autopsies. These guys never got diagnosed with concussions, and yet they show the brain trauma. So it could be that even those celebratory slaps are causing a problem.

[discostu]

If there’s something to be learned from the rate at which young athletes get in trouble with the law and go broke it’s that they might be biologically and legally grown men, but inbetween the ears they aren’t yet. Also there’s recent studies showing that teens and early adults specifically have issues understanding their own mortality, it’s why we do dumb things at that age. So even as grown men there’s indications they just don’t have the stuff to properly process the dangers even when the accurate data is presented to them. Look no further than the Dallas Cowboys for that, one teammate dead in the DUI, another going to jail, and yet another Cowboy just got busted for DUI. “Grown men” has a fluid definition.

Everybody subordinates decision making to experts. It’s how we go through life. If you don’t have medical training you do what your doctor says. If you’re not a car mechanic you go to one. You watch financial experts on TV for investment advice. And young adults are more susceptible to it, because they’ve been through life being told what to do by adults in all aspects of their life, now a doctor says don’t worry about those concussions you’ll be fine, add the comprehension of mortality problem we know that age group has, and here’s where they land.

[pepsionice]

I believe you can accurately predict the demise of the NFL by 2025 now. High school football will be the first to halt in one state. It’ll be total shock, and within two years...a second state will join the ban on football.

College football being banned will likely occur by 2022...with California likely to be the first state. Without the college teams...the NFL cannot function. So it’s only a year or two later that they start to admit the end is near.

What replaces it? Roller-derby....my honest humble opinion.

[fr_freak]

Everybody subordinates decision making to experts. It’s how we go through life. If you don’t have medical training you do what your doctor says. If you’re not a car mechanic you go to one. You watch financial experts on TV for investment advice.

I don't agree with this (it is both a bad mode of thinking and it is not necessarily true). If your doctor gives you an opinion and you suspect he might be wrong, or you just want to double check, as a responsible adult would do, you get a second opinion, or a third. I have had the experience of going through three or four doctors who all gave the same opinion that I KNEW was wrong. The last doctor more or less agreed with me, treated accordingly, et voila, I was better. The others would have killed me. I have gone to mechanics who have given me diagnoses that I knew were full of it, so I left and went elsewhere. I guarantee I'm not the only one who does this kind of thing, nor should I be.

The failure of certain people to live up to their duty as adults, in no way should result in the dumbing down of our expectations. We are already a nation of idiot children - if we decide that people into their 20s aren't capable of making their own decisions or taking responsibility for their own lives, then we all might as well vote Obama for Glorious Emperor of the Universe for Life and get it over with, instead of waiting until we can come up with enough reasons to treat people as children well into their 30, 40s and beyond.

[discostu]

It might be a bad mode of thinking, but it is true for the larger part of the population. They don’t generally think they’re doctor might be wrong, unless the problem they asked him about persists. The primary method people use to deal with things outside of their expertise is “life is complicated and I’m busy”. Whole business models are built around this “Ace is the place with the helpful hardware man”, they’re advertising that they know household projects better than you, but they’ll answer your questions. The whole technical support concept. Consulting someone we’ve been told is an expert is a normal human reaction to things out of their depth.

Sure sometimes what the expert says doesn’t pass the sniff test, so you try somebody else. But then there was something that triggered it, AND you still kept consulting experts, and when you got an answer that passed the sniff test you stopped asking others. The last guy might have been just as full of it as the others, could be he was just better at selling it. You still went the normal human route of “I don’t know so I’ll ask someone paid to know”.

Nobody failed to live up to their expectations as adults. These are athletes, athletes spend their lives doing what the coach, training staff, and medical staff tell them. It’s the basis of their life, that IS what is EXPECTED of them as adults. And the league medical staff said “no long term effects from concussions”. Nobody is saying they aren’t capable of making their own decisions. Just pointing out that your assumption they should have known better is asking too much. It’s not dumb for 22 year olds that have been listening to doctors for all their lives to listen to the doctor again. It’s normal.

[Kenika]

What about Patsy Mink’s Title Nine....... nice mess

[Mears]

“What replaces it?”

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Sex.

Seems to be the only thing they all agree on.

What strange times we live in.

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[fr_freak]

Sounds like we have a fundamental difference of opinion on the best nature of Man, even young Man. Once, the majority of this country agreed with me. Now, the majority probably agree with you. I guess we’ll see how that turns out.

[discostu]

The majority might have talked like you, but they behaved the way I say. It’s human nature to defer to experts, it’s part of why we group up and form societies, to get more experts in more fields.

[fr_freak]

I guess we have a fundamental difference of opinion on history, as well.