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Ted Cruz shoots down Feinstein gun ban: 'Real assault weapon' are already illegal
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | January 24, 2013 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 01/24/2013 2:17:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

As Senate Democrats unveiled an “assault weapons ban” encompassing a variety of rifles, shotguns, and pistols, the newest lawyer in the U.S. Senate pointed out that “real assault weapons” have been illegal since 1934.

“Washington politicians shouldn’t be taking advantage of recent tragedy to try to push an aggressive gun control agenda,” said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, in a statement today. “Real assault weapons—machine guns—are already functionally illegal, and they have been since 1934. This proposal would have done nothing to prevent the terrible murders in Newtown, but it would limit the constitutional liberties of law-abiding citizens.”

Through the National Firearms Act of 1934, Congress imposed “a tax on the making and transfer of machine guns and certain other weapons, as well as a special occupational tax on persons and entities engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing and dealing in those weapons,” according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The tax was $200 (in 1934, the U.S. dollar was valuable enough that 200 bucks was a lot of money). Congress passed a ban on machine gun ownership in 1986.

Cruz was responding to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who proposed a new assault weapons ban today. “Getting this bill signed into law will be an uphill battle, and I recognize that—but it’s a battle worth having,” Feinstein said in a statement today. “We must balance the desire of a few to own military-style assaults weapons with the growing threat to lives across America. If 20 dead children in Newtown wasn’t a wakeup call that these weapons of war don’t belong on our streets, I don’t know what is.”

Feinstein’s bill is co-sponsored by several top Democrats, including Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who went back and forth with Cruz about gun control on Sunday’s Meet the Press.

“The bottom line is that during the 10 years that the Assault Weapons Ban was in effect, the use of those weapons in crimes went down a significant percentage,” Schumer said.

Cruz countered by noting that the use of those weapons for crimes has continued to drop without a gun ban. “The Assault Weapons Ban was one of the least successful bills that has ever been put in place,” he told NBC’s David Gregory. “And in fact, when the ban expired, there were roughly 700 murders using all rifles. Today, there are roughly 300. There’s less than half. This is not designed to actually solve the problem of violent crime. This is designed to assuage liberal partisans who want to push their agenda forward.”


TOPICS: US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/24/2013 2:17:43 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

60 more like him and we’re good to go.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 2:21:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Way to go Texas!


3 posted on 01/24/2013 2:24:37 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Glad to call him my senator. Voted for him in the primary and in the hard-fought runoff against the RINO Dewhurst.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 2:24:59 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You can’t tell the gun-grabbers anything. They revel in their ignorance and are proud of it.

The term “assault rifle” was coined in WW2 by the German General Staff to interest Hitler in a new rifle. Apparently the gun-grabbers operate at the same childish mental level as Hitler. (A liberal newspaper editorial said comparing gun-grabbers to Hilter was “hurting gun-owners’ cause. I disagree)


5 posted on 01/24/2013 2:28:55 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I like my new Senator.


6 posted on 01/24/2013 2:39:45 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“If 20 dead children in Newtown wasn’t a wakeup call that these weapons of war don’t belong on our streets, I don’t know what is.”

Dear Senator Feinstein,

Aside from the fact that using the 20 dead children is merely an emotional argument, not a logical one, you need to be aware of something. Soldiers do not go to war with semi-auto weapons like the ones you put on display today. Soldiers use automatic weapons.

Oh, by the way, it isn’t your place to tell me what I can and cannot use to defend my liberty.

Your’s Truly,
Bryan24


7 posted on 01/24/2013 2:42:15 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“We must balance the desire of a few to own military-style assaults weapons with the growing threat to lives across America. If 20 dead children in Newtown wasn’t a wakeup call that these weapons of war don’t belong on our streets, I don’t know what is.”

Another lie from this privileged fossil, delivered from atop a pile of children's bodies.

8 posted on 01/24/2013 2:42:40 PM PST by skeeter
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To: sockmonkey
Congress passed a ban on machine gun ownership in 1986.
Why does even our side continue to get the facts wrong? Congress did NOT ban machine gun ownership in 1986. It only outlawed letting any newly manufactured machine guns to enter the registration. All it did was drive the prices of currently existing machine guns through the roof. It is still perfectly legal to sell or transfer currently registered machine guns, so long as they register it with a new stamp. Some states, however, do have acutal bans on them.
9 posted on 01/24/2013 2:46:16 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Willingly voted for him twice...Glad he is my senator.

He beats the pants off of KBH.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 2:51:01 PM PST by Texas56
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“We must balance the desire of a few to own military-style assaults weapons

Hmmm... I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of AR variants alone are out there, never mind everything else on her stupid list.
And every day more and more are being sold.

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...

11 posted on 01/24/2013 2:52:50 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Bryan24

The fact is, those 20 people were shot with a hand gun. Four hand guns were found at the crime scene, a shot gun was removed from the trunk of the car.

The MSM lied about what weapons were used, as are the democrats.
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-in-newtown-shooting/


12 posted on 01/24/2013 2:54:01 PM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: rickomatic

“Why does even our side continue to get the facts wrong”

I know it is so stinking aggravating to hear that fully autos are outlawed. When will they get this right. It only adds more confusion.

I keep saying that lawmakers that keep squeeling like a pig with their head caught in a gate about magazines that contain more than 10 rounds have never seen a full auto belt feed running.....

I do like Cruz though. I hope he does not turn out like Rubio.


13 posted on 01/24/2013 3:18:09 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Clean_Sweep

NBC should be sued to remove that STUPID video from their website. That video was made about 24 hours after the shooting. The information is completely innacurate. NBC has other videos making corrections to the story.

I’ll bet I have seen this same innacurate video cited 20 times in the past 2 weeks.


14 posted on 01/24/2013 3:31:09 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: eartick
I suppose what our side needs to say is that MGs have been regulated since 1934. I tell people "Look up the National Firearms Act of 1934".
15 posted on 01/24/2013 3:43:16 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There isn’t a lot of love being shown to DiFi on her Facebook page.


16 posted on 01/24/2013 3:45:39 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I actually own a real assault rifle. It’s a Mauser Mod 98 and, unlike Bushmasters and semi automatic AKs, it was actually issued as a war rifle by a world power.


17 posted on 01/24/2013 3:48:26 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Bryan24

For what it’s worth the following was issued by the CT State Police on Jan. 18, 2013 in an attempt to clear up the confusion.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/31221-update-state-police-confirm-weapons-used-in-newtown-shootings/

UPDATE: State Police Confirm Weapons Used in Newtown Shootings
Kyle Becker January 21, 2013 7:38 am

The Connecticut State Police released a statement on January 18th attempting to clarify the confusion generated by the inconsistent and irresponsible media reporting following the Sandy Hook elementary shooting in Newtown on December 14th.

The released list of weapons sets the record straight on an issue that has driven the blogosphere to increasingly speculative lengths: exactly which weapons were used in the shooting?

The weapons seized from the attacker Adam Lanza are as follows, according to the State Police:

#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber– model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun

#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:

#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)

end snip

From the CT State Police website is the statement in it’s entirety.

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226


18 posted on 01/24/2013 3:51:53 PM PST by deport
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I like Cruz......

But does anyone here realize you CAN buy and OWN a machine gun...if you are willing to have an anal exam...and pay a LOT of money?

I've shot machine guns legally as an AMERICAN CITIZEN....

In fact I can drive 35 miles from where I live and rent some FULLY AUTO guns...and shoot them on a range.

19 posted on 01/24/2013 3:52:27 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Clean_Sweep

You are incorrect...........


20 posted on 01/24/2013 3:55:32 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: muir_redwoods

I actually own quite a few guns....and they are ALL assault weapons...in the right hands.


21 posted on 01/24/2013 3:57:56 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: muir_redwoods
Another thing.....I own a bow that can assault you at 50 yds.

Pretty deadly too.

22 posted on 01/24/2013 3:59:25 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: M1903A1

“I tell people “Look up the National Firearms Act of 1934”.”

How many blank stares to you get? I mean seriously, these politicians do not live and breath “gunpowder”. They get some talking points and run with them. In most cases it does not make them bad, it makes them dangerous like the MSM.

The “blonde bobble heads” on Faux News are another real dangerous group. The other day one was babbling on about semi-autos firing multiple rounds at a single pull of the trigger. Came uncorked sent an email to them to keep her uninformed mouth shut until she became “schooled”. About 15 minutes later she was apologizing. I guess she toke a quick course.....


23 posted on 01/24/2013 4:07:47 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Osage Orange

The advantage of the Mod 98 is I got it from my father who “picked it up” in Germany, previous owner deceased.

No paperwork as far as I can tell.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 4:08:15 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods
Apparently you missed my point.....

You said...

"I actually own a real assault rifle."

I'm not buying this "assault rifle" crap....any gun staring at me..is assaulting.

25 posted on 01/24/2013 4:14:59 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Osage Orange

Sorry but I disagree. It’s an assault rifle if it’s a war rifle issued by a sovereign power. If it wasn’t, it’s not an assault rifle. A semi automatic AK is not an assault rifle. A Brown Bess muzzle loader is.


26 posted on 01/24/2013 4:19:31 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Chuck Woolery on assault weapons..Please share..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evEg1VNfX3o&feature=player_embedded


27 posted on 01/24/2013 4:22:14 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Well FRiend when you have a gun pointed at you.....I believe you would call it an assault weapon.

You appear to be playing word games.....just like the Feds. I'm sure that is not your intent...but it appears like it.

28 posted on 01/24/2013 4:38:15 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: ozzymandus

Rank-and-file Democrats are akin to Hitler Youth: slavishly simple, blindly obedient to the socialist cause.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 4:45:43 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Osage Orange

No I’m attempting to use a consistent and defensible definition of terms. The left claims weapons of war don’t belong in civilian hands. If a weapon has never been issued by a sovereign power to it’s military it cannot be an assault weapon and proposed legislation could not apply to it. This consistent and defensible definition would put the left in the absurd position of outlawing trapdoor Springfields and Brown Besses while leaving semi-automatic AKs and ARs untouched.


30 posted on 01/24/2013 5:01:37 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: sockmonkey

Me also.


31 posted on 01/24/2013 5:12:24 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: fwdude

I too, am proud to call Mr. Cruz my senator. Alan Dershowitz, his professor at Harvard, said, “Cruz was off-the charts brilliant.” (Just think, in two years he’ll be qualified to be President.) Please check out Ted’s resume at Wikipedia, the guy is really remarkable. He is a true man of accomplishment unlike the fraud and walking cliche in the White House who was fast tracked by millions of loony liberal sycophantic lickspittles. Make no mistake, Ted Cruz is the real deal. I have high expectations for him. Our country needs him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz


32 posted on 01/24/2013 5:18:19 PM PST by donaldo
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Congress passed a ban on machine gun ownership in 1986.

No they did not. What Congress did do is to not allow any more fully automatic firearms to be entered into the national registry, and therefore cannot be issued a tax stamp, hence cannot be owned.

Full automatic firearms that were already on the registry can still be owned, bought, and sold, after the necessary transfer tax and microscopic examination of the buyer's background.

33 posted on 01/24/2013 5:28:22 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: donaldo

Thanks for the info on Cruz. I’ve just been impressed with his conservative credentials and the rare spine he’s shown against some of the most outspoken liberals. That he’s that brilliant is just icing on the cake for me!


34 posted on 01/24/2013 5:46:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Texas56
Willingly voted for him twice...Glad he is my senator.

Ditto. But I hope you voted for him THREE times: primary, runoff and general. I had to think that process through for a minute, but it's true.

35 posted on 01/24/2013 5:48:28 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Osage Orange

But does anyone here realize you CAN buy and OWN a machine gun...


Not ANY machine gun made in the last 26 years. And not most of those made before then.


36 posted on 01/24/2013 5:57:44 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
There isn’t a lot of love being shown to DiFi on her Facebook page.

I just checked. What you said is an UNDERSTATEMENT! Heh

37 posted on 01/24/2013 11:20:05 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Beelzebubba

My post stands........


38 posted on 01/25/2013 7:02:09 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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