Skip to comments.Homeless Veterans In Killeen Have Nowhere To Go
Posted on 01/24/2013 4:47:34 PM PST by moonshinner_09
Killeen's homeless have nowhere to go, and that means dozens, possibly hundreds of our veterans are stuck out in the cold.
More than 62 thousand American veterans are living on the streets.
Nickie, a 58-yr old Vietnam Marine veteran, is one of them, but the Fort Hood area doesn't have any homeless shelters, turning cold nights into life or death battles that leave Nickie wondering.
"Am I going to make it until tomorrow? Am I going to make it, straight up," said Nickie with tears in his eyes.
A few warming centers open, but only when temperatures dip below freezing, and as soon as Killeen Mayor Dan Corbin was elected, he made his opinion about that known.
(Excerpt) Read more at kcentv.com ...
The pop. of Killeen is only 130K.
We’ll get the “media” right on it.
I can’t speak for Texas, but in the midwest, the only people that are truly “homeless” are ones who choose to be, due to addiction (the shelters won’t allow drugs or alcohol consumption) or mental illness.
It is time foe this homeless guy to move on, to a city that has homeless shelters.
—and we haven’t had any winter to speak of around here.
The temperature hit 82 degrees today, setting an all time record for this date in this part of Texas (Austin area). We are having a terrible drought in these parts, so these poor guys are cold and wet.
I think it’s a shame that there isn’t some where for them to be housed, though.
I do wonder how many are doing dope and other bad stuff, which could be a reason that they can’t find work. Our unemployment rate is pretty low in these parts, the last I heard.
Make that: so these guys AREN”T cold and wet.............
My typing often leaves something to be desired.
So thumb a ride to Temple and stay there. Or keep going to Waco. I’m sure they have shelters. Why do you have to stay in Killeen?
I never understand why I’m supposed to care that they’re veterans.
The 62,000 figure is for the nation as a whole, supposedly. It really has nothing to do with the story, if there is one. They either thought you might like to know or are playing proportionity tricks. You be the judge.
***** “I never understand why Im supposed to care that theyre veterans.” ******
Chances are they aren’t Vets and if you aren’t a Vet you probably wouldn’t understand anyway.
Where in the world did they get this number?
They made it up. Just like they did after Vietnam. See the book "Stolen Valor" by BG Jugs Burkett for his refutation of the garbage statistics on Vietnam veterans that were being put out.
Does anyone else find it strange that someone as young as 58 could be a Vietnam Marine veteran? Weren't we all but completely pulled out of Vietnam by the time he would have turned 18? (While I'm sorry to be cynical enough to raise this question, I've met a number of homeless "veterans" who didn't know what an MOS was, let alone what theirs was.)
Exactly. Cities should be competing NOT to have bums around, rather than treating it as a problem to solve. They are able to feed off civilization because we let them. Maybe if we made them truly fend for themselves they’d either:
1). die (boo-hoo);
2). hack it out in the wilderness, of which there is plenty and which was good enough for injuns and pioneers;
3). return to humdrum society.
He would have been 21 in 1975 the final year of the war.
If he enlisted at 18 he theoretically could have been in VN.
WASHINGTON Despite political discord on Capitol Hill, Obama administration officials and Congress have cut through partisan differences to help veterans returning from wars to homelessness.
The Department of Veterans Affairs has announced grants totaling $100 million to help almost 42,000 homeless and at-risk veterans in 49 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.
Texas will see more than $4.1 million of those grants go to community agencies in San Antonio, Houston, Killeen, Fort Worth, Austin and El Paso.
No man or woman who has served our country should have to worry about having a place to call home, said Rep. Charlie Gonzalez, D-San Antonio.
San Antonio Family Endeavors, Inc., will serve about 1,000 families with a $998,153 grant in a 12-county area. The grant is a renewal, allowing the program of counseling and aid for a second year.
Floor it through the speed trap in Nolanville on 190. (55>30>55).
You’ll get 3 hots and a cot.
At least that’s how it went down in 1975.
Most of the “homeless vets” I have run across (I volunteer with a homeless outreach service) are homeless because they want to be. They are the hobos of today. Love to travel from city to city and enjoy the hospitality (free stuff) of each new city until it gets either too cold or to hot.
Don’t get me wrong, there are vets roaming the streets that are screwed up because of their military service, but for the most part they are few and far between.
This makes no sense. There is a whole lot of nothing off post at Fort Hood. No place to look for a job. But just North on the highway is Waco, and South is Austin, with much better prospects in either.
You're right, he could have barely made it in time.
I just checked the dates. The last troop level listed for US troops was fifty troops in 1973 and none after that.
On my ship's WestPac in late 1972, all of our fire support missions were done in support of South Vietnam Army units, not US troops. Our guys had, for the most part, been pulled out by then.
When it gets too cold or hot they can go to a VA hospital emergency room and declare they are suicidal. This gets them into the psych ward where they tell the shrink they are alcoholic or drug addicted. This gets them a few weeks in an inpatient rehab program.
Call ex-Mayor Ray Nagin (New Orleans). He had plenty of buses for the homeless to live in. Oh, I forgot, so did he.
Call FEMA; They have hundreds of buses and mobile homes for the victims of Sandy.
Oh, I forgot. So did they.
Call Mayor Bloomberg. He’s got the money for everyone. Right?
Call Hollywood liberals. They’ll help. Right?
I can see “Homeless” becoming a whole lot more common in our near future.
Think about it ... most folks can’t afford to go Galt.
I’m about 3 payments away from my Mortgage burning party, but then after that always paycheck away from not being able to pay my Tax... I can’t figure out a way to be debt free.
I think a large number of “homeless veterans” never served a day. I think a lot of panhandlers use “veteran” as a hook for sympathy.
Especially the young “veterans” that I’ve talked to can’t keep up a believable story for 5 seconds when directly asked about their service.
I think, with ALL due respect to my fellow FReepers, that those of you on this thread miss the point.
This has nothing to do with homelessness; poor veterans. It has nothing to do with caring, wanting to care for these damaged, wayward souls.
It has EVERYthing to do with showing that veterans are damaged goods. They number in the tens of thousands, donchaknow....the article says so. If you’re a veteran, you’re mind-f**ked and a threat to society.
Do I need to connect the final dot(s)?
“the only people that are truly homeless are ones who choose to be, due to addiction (the shelters wont allow drugs or alcohol consumption) or mental illness.”
Drugs and alcohol I get but mental illness is not a choice. They should have families taking care of them but all too often families can’t or won’t deal with them. We should have never have done away with places for the mentally ill. I know they were bad but they could have been made better. We put more pressure on the local dog pound to have a clean place than we did for the mentally ill.
I think its a shame that there isnt some where for them to be housed, though.
I am sorry but they did serve their country but what the heck have they been doing the last 40 years? Seriously something THEY did is how this because a problem. No we do not need to use government money to house every dang person in the U.S. This is getting ridiculous and why we are broke.
“It has EVERYthing to do with showing that veterans are damaged goods. They number in the tens of thousands, donchaknow....the article says so. If youre a veteran, youre mind-f**ked and a threat to society.”
Oh I know some of them may be mentally ill. We should have more veterans homes for them. This just sucks.
You were in 'Nam? So were we. Where?
I was in...Sang Bang... Dang Gong... I was all over the place, a lot of places.
I was with the Green Berets, Special Unit Battalions... Commando Airborne Tactics... Specialist Tactics Unit Battalion. Yeah, it was real hush hush. I was Agent Orange, Special Agent Orange, that was me.
****** “I just checked the dates. The last troop level listed for US troops was fifty troops in 1973 and none after that.” ******
Last Draftee was 1973 ... I was in Basic at the time ... I heard the news on the Radio along with 79 of my fellow trainees (they had the nerve to interrupt Alice Cooper “No More Mr Nice Guy”)
I joined because I wanted to, I had no idea that folks joined the Navy to avoid Army Draft (I was 17), all training that day was postponed so folks could dry their tears and get right again. I was basically Forest Gump and didn’t understand but was still upset that they interrupted Alice Cooper (from a Radio playing in a window from the Company next to us) come to think of it I have had various stages of Forest Gump in my life... the older I get the more times (segments of my life) I can identify as Forest Gump stages.
Too bad Forest Gump never said “Live and Learn”
PS We (as in the Ship I was on) did have a Fire Mission in 1974 in Viet Nam and we were fired upon... got pictures and everything
If so, he's about the youngest one out there.
We ended the war 40 years ago this summer, and realistically speaking the chances of him turning 18, going through basic and then being deployed while the US was already withdrawing large numbers of troops seem very improbable.
I didn't realize that fire support missions were still going on as late as 1974. What ship did you serve on? I was on the Hoel (DDG-13) in missile fire control.
Do the math...
Yes, he could be a Vietnam Veteran.
Saigon fell in 1975, but we stopped deploying new units to Vietnam in early 1973.
“This makes no sense. There is a whole lot of nothing off post at Fort Hood. No place to look for a job. But just North on the highway is Waco, and South is Austin, with much better prospects in either.”
Then why do we have so many Damn Yankees (northerners that come down here and stay)filling up our county.
The Temple, Belton, Killeen, Fort Hood, Coperas Cove Economic Area is one of the most healthy in the country with new construction everywhere.
I would also like to know where all of the homeless vets are in Killeen; they are not along the freeways with cardboard signs as they are in Austin...
I did the math. That's what raised the question in my mind.
Yes, he could be a Vietnam Veteran.
See my post #20. Yes, it's possible that he could be.
Still true. Nolanville loves speeding soldiers.
Fact is, this government treats our veterans like cheet...
"Is there a problem, officer?"
“I can see....I can see....I have....I have legs!”
Free college educations? Kids with who speak good English can’t get jobs? They would be better off taking their educations back to their home countries.
We didn't pull out of Vietnam until 1975. He and thousands of others who happen to be in their late 50s were in that age group and could have easily been sent to Vietnam.
But it doesn't matter.
Those who joined from 1970 through 1975 could have been sent and many were. No one had a freaking crystal ball as to what was going to happen.
But the fact is they joined or were drafted and served.
Are they all not honorable for doing so?
Which is why they are in Texas instead of freezing in NY right now. As has been said, we've had lovely warm sunny days in the 70-80s. I was out in shorts and working in the garden today and still have the windows open at 9 pm now. Plan on doing the same tomorrow.
Bull shit...Most vets living on the streets are mentally ill to one degree or another...Just like the non-vet homeless.
They enjoy traveling around?
As I said, I work with a volunteer group that caters to the homeless and, with few exceptions, most homeless vets will tell you that they enjoy their lifestyle and don’t wish to change (at least not yet).
Its not as if there were thousands upon thousands of homeless vets. From my experience there only a handful here and there. The MSM are the group that paints the landscape with untold thousands of homeless vets.
Over the years I have only run into a few homeless vets that were mentally ill and we have done everything we could for them.
The average homeless person is not a vet, just someone that lives the hobo life ... believe it or not.
Until you get out into the homeless community and see for yourself, speak little.
I have been doing this for over 20 years and know something of what I’m speaking. If you still think it is BS, well I can live with that and may G_d bless you.
You're wrong about that date. The last US troops were pulled out in 1973 when we were down to fifty total in-country. I linked a source in an earlier post.
But the fact is they joined or were drafted and served.
Are they all not honorable for doing so?
Those who served certainly are; the homeless veteran that I met last year who had been an Army Lance Corporal, not so much so.
For those who may be unfamiliar with military ranks: In the US Army, there is no such rank as Lance Corporal, nor has there ever been; the Lance Corporal rank is only used in the Marine Corps.
The war did not officially end until 1975. Ya they started pulling out in 73, but who knew in 1969 or 1970, '71 that was going to happen and was written in concrete?
That was my point.
Once again...it doesn't matter.
They had no idea in 1970 or early 1970, 71 etc, they wouldn't be sent to war. No one did at the time and certainly the 18 or 19 year olds who signed up didn't.
The fact is all who joined or served regardless of where they were they were sent, did so honorably. Most had no choice in the matter anyway...lol