Posted on 01/24/2013 4:47:34 PM PST by moonshinner_09
Bingo.
“I can see....I can see....I have....I have legs!”
Free college educations? Kids with who speak good English can’t get jobs? They would be better off taking their educations back to their home countries.
We didn't pull out of Vietnam until 1975. He and thousands of others who happen to be in their late 50s were in that age group and could have easily been sent to Vietnam.
But it doesn't matter.
Those who joined from 1970 through 1975 could have been sent and many were. No one had a freaking crystal ball as to what was going to happen.
But the fact is they joined or were drafted and served.
Are they all not honorable for doing so?
Which is why they are in Texas instead of freezing in NY right now. As has been said, we've had lovely warm sunny days in the 70-80s. I was out in shorts and working in the garden today and still have the windows open at 9 pm now. Plan on doing the same tomorrow.
Bull shit...Most vets living on the streets are mentally ill to one degree or another...Just like the non-vet homeless.
They enjoy traveling around?
((WOW!))
As I said, I work with a volunteer group that caters to the homeless and, with few exceptions, most homeless vets will tell you that they enjoy their lifestyle and don’t wish to change (at least not yet).
Its not as if there were thousands upon thousands of homeless vets. From my experience there only a handful here and there. The MSM are the group that paints the landscape with untold thousands of homeless vets.
Over the years I have only run into a few homeless vets that were mentally ill and we have done everything we could for them.
The average homeless person is not a vet, just someone that lives the hobo life ... believe it or not.
Until you get out into the homeless community and see for yourself, speak little.
I have been doing this for over 20 years and know something of what I’m speaking. If you still think it is BS, well I can live with that and may G_d bless you.
You're wrong about that date. The last US troops were pulled out in 1973 when we were down to fifty total in-country. I linked a source in an earlier post.
But the fact is they joined or were drafted and served.
Are they all not honorable for doing so?
Those who served certainly are; the homeless veteran that I met last year who had been an Army Lance Corporal, not so much so.
For those who may be unfamiliar with military ranks: In the US Army, there is no such rank as Lance Corporal, nor has there ever been; the Lance Corporal rank is only used in the Marine Corps.
The war did not officially end until 1975. Ya they started pulling out in 73, but who knew in 1969 or 1970, '71 that was going to happen and was written in concrete?
That was my point.
Once again...it doesn't matter.
No?
They had no idea in 1970 or early 1970, 71 etc, they wouldn't be sent to war. No one did at the time and certainly the 18 or 19 year olds who signed up didn't.
The fact is all who joined or served regardless of where they were they were sent, did so honorably. Most had no choice in the matter anyway...lol
I don't care who or where ya work...it's BS...
Any veteran living in the street and digging dumpsters is mentally ill to some extent, drugged out, drunk or is just totally down and out....Anyone telling you they enjoy living under cardboard in frigged weather is very likely a mental case to some extent.
The next time one of them tells ya fun it is, don't believe it Bob.
You clearly have no idea how nasty and dangerous it's become for those living in the streets..
No sale doc.
I started working at a homeless shelter in Dallas, 26 years ago and my experiences are simialr to yours. Many homeless are folks lost a job and have some poor family “relationships” they stay in a shelter, with a storage locker they share with one or two other guys, till they save enough to get a little apartment and start again. The pill locker at the front desk is to keep the mentally il safe from drug users...30% or more of 300+ in a shelter need meds to stay sane.
Gee, nice to run into someone so knowledgeable and, I’m sure, with more experience than I have. May you have a nice day and a better future. As the grasshopper in this conversation I bow to you.
Gee, nice to run into someone so knowledgeable and, I’m sure, with more experience than I have. May you have a nice day and a better future. As the grasshopper in this conversation I bow to you.
Praise you for your willingness to serve the less fortunate.
The war did not officially end until 1975. Ya they started pulling out in 73, but who knew in 1969 or 1970, '71 that was going to happen and was written in concrete?
That was my point.
We didn't start pulling out in 1973, we finished pulling out in 1973. In 1969, 1970, or 1971, this guy would have been 14, 15, or 16 years old.
The fact is all who joined or served regardless of where they were they were sent, did so honorably. Most had no choice in the matter anyway...lol
We're in complete agreement on that point. You seem to think, though, that anyone who says that he's a veteran actually is a veteran. You're very mistaken.
What's your point Bob? This guy joined and is apparently a 58-yr old Vietnam Marine veteran. Are you suggesting there are no Vietnam veterans who are in their late fifties?
It might be possible he was referring to the fact that he was a Vietnam era veteran? I don't know.
But once more time, those who joined in the late 1960s, 1970 and 1971 had no freaking guarantee they wouldn't be sent to war.
If there was such a guarantee Bob, please produce it.
You seem to be holding something against veterans who were not sent off to war, whether they wanted to or not. They have no choice.
Once again Bob, most have no choice when your in. If ya join and war breaks out while you're in, you're likely going to war. If there is a war going on before ya join, there is always a chance you'll be sent to war..If there is no war there could be one at any freaking time, and you'll likely go to war while your in or after ya join.
No one knows what's going to happen, is my point Bob...
I'll never knock anyone who served since there are many, many more who never served a freaking single day of their lives.
I never suggested or implied that.
My point once again is anyone who served is a military veteran and all those who join have no idea whatsoever if they will be sent to war. And I don't give a damn is a war is going on, or winding down at the time they join. They simply don't know.
True....but that’s not the point here.
Veterans are a threat, you see. All veterans. Going to make it a lot easier to disarm/neuter them when the time comes if everyone is convinced they’re all nutcases.
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